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assassin17
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 Posted - 07/01/2009 : 1:41:23 PM
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Who said she will win? Us???
The only ones even fretting about it are Democrats. You're all doing nothing except trying to toss attention away from your boy Obama's most-pitiful performance right now. Why not bring up the latest foibles of Britney Spears also?
The more the media throws out Palin, the more you all feel we will forget about the sharp stick in our rear ends. Not gonna happen. Palin has absolutely nothing to do with today's governing and won't for at least 3 years, if ever. We're not falling for the distraction, she is simply dinner-time talk right now.
Now, let's discuss Obama's plan to force employers to provide mandatory health insurance for all employees, stacked upon the added corporate taxes. How many jobs will that "save or create"? |
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mykal5
6130 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 1:46:55 PM
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Originally posted by ML
You seem to forget redistricting after the Census, and the simple fact of demographics, that do not favor the Good Old Persons party. The electorate is getting younger and darker, whom do you think this benefits?
The Whig party? |
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shaslam
728 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:01:32 PM
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Originally posted by assassin17
Who said she will win? Us???
Vance did, actually. Or he at least intimated how she'd have a great chance to win. So did Guinan, but that was weeks ago.
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Now, let's discuss Obama's plan to force employers to provide mandatory health insurance for all employees, stacked upon the added corporate taxes. How many jobs will that "save or create"?
Fair enough. But let's do it in a different thread that is not set up specifically to discuss Sarah Palin and her political future. |
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frank drigotas j
3871 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:04:24 PM
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VVance,
To set the record straight, Ted Stevens R-Alaska, was indicted, tried and convicted.
Right?
I'm just saying that Palin is too much of a lightweight to even enter the ring vs Romney, Huckabee, and the others. I don't care if she tries desperately to stay in the spotlight with jogging suits,etc...
Come on, you seem to be a smart guy. Admit it and move on to a viable GOP possibility.
I might even vote for your choice then.
But Palin is a waste of your efforts, mark my word.
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:04:37 PM
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| I was not on this site but where there many John Edwards threads in 2005 or Joe Lieberman threads in 2001 regarding their run for the POTUS in 3 years? |
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assassin17
7838 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:18:19 PM
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How about a thread focusing on the greatness of Joe Biden with a list of his accomplishments. He won the job on Barry's coattails, right?
Why the pre-occupation with someone who wasn't hired? Unless, of course, we are MEANT to be pre-occupied with it to ignore the ones who were.
Ok, let's discuss Palin. According to the title, she's "failin". At what? She isn't running for anything. Is she "failin" to get her name and face out there? I'd say she is greatly exceeding expectations.
With exposure comes familiarity, with familiarity comes acceptance, and with acceptance comes political victory, on name alone. So, where's she "failin"? She's laughing all the way to the bank and possibly the White House with all of this attention, so the "failin" is done by the free promotion she's receiving from her detractors, which is actually going to further her career. |
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:20:13 PM
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Originally posted by shaslam
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I was on this one site...they had a picture of a McCain rally beofre Palin...like a couple of hundred people...and a picture after Palin was announced...several thousand people...it was really funny. If I can find it, I will post the link.
Indeed Vance, Sarah definitely drove up the interest level and rallied the conservative base to a degree that McCain alone could not. She doesn't believe in evolution, is staunchly anti-abortion, and thumbs her nose at intellectuals who use multi-syllabic words. Clearly she is going to have a very strong appeal to the lowest common denominator types - rural folks, gun enthusiasts, NASCAR lovers, rabid churchgoers, etc. These particular demographics LOVE Sarah Pee.
But the question is, can she win a significant national election when this is her primary base? Most political analysts would say no, based on simple numbers such as the fact that only 21% of Americans label themselves as republicans. Or the fact that a candidate needs to win a decent percentage of the minority vote to win overall, and her approval rating with minorities is in the teens. Aside from those tangible numbers, then there are also the intangible issues such as her lack of academic excellence and poor grasp of economic issues and foreign policy concerns.
Can Palin overcome these obstacles and transform her image and herself into someone the majority of Americans will trust as Commander In Chief? I say no. Not a chance. But I'd love you hear how/why/when you think she can.
I disagree with your characterization of calling rural Americans the lowest common denominator. Setting that aside, Palin does appeal to a Conservative base. And that Conservative base turns out to vote when it feels it has a candidate to back. Historically, a youth vote and a minority vote don't vote in near as high a percentage.
Regarding her degree of academic excellence, the fact that she doesn't have the degree from and Ivy League school isn't a requirement to be a President (President Reagan). In regards to economics, being a Governor means she does have a background in balancing and maintaining a state budget, a feat many current Governors seem to have trouble with.
Foreign Policy you could make a case against her. But, almost every candidate for President you can make the same case against.
The current President quit Occidental College in Pasadena, Ca, transferring to Columbia.
The current President never ran anything before becoming President having no background in economics and little foriegn policy experience.
The main argument against Palin is her lack of polish on TV interviews. Granted, her interview with Katie Couric was lousy (although, Katie certainly had little problem smiling and agreeing with Biden as he spoke of a man who wasn't President in 1929, going on national TV, also not available in 1929, and talking of the Great Depression).
In today's world, a well groomed politician memorizes approximately 5-7 answers, and then modifies those responses to answer all questions. That's how they appear so polished on TV. Palin didn't have the luxury of working on these skills prior to being the VP nomination and that fault lies directly with the same people quoted in the Vanity Fair piece. Even Obama, when talking about Palin said (paraphrasing) "there's no way she can learn those skills in a couple of weeks. It took me a couple of years".
My guess is that she will learn political speak in the short term and her interviews with a usually hostile press will come off much better in the future.
While I maintain this piece is a hit piece, I'm still not sure its not without Republican help (this does have the appearance of team Romney). |
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:23:58 PM
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Originally posted by frank drigotas jr
VVance,
To set the record straight, Ted Stevens R-Alaska, was indicted, tried and convicted.
Right?
I'm just saying that Palin is too much of a lightweight to even enter the ring vs Romney, Huckabee, and the others. I don't care if she tries desperately to stay in the spotlight with jogging suits,etc...
Come on, you seem to be a smart guy. Admit it and move on to a viable GOP possibility.
I might even vote for your choice then.
But Palin is a waste of your efforts, mark my word.
dollar
From Wikipedia, On Stevens....
"However, that conviction was effectively vacated after the newly-sworn in administration of Barack Obama found evidence of prosecutorial misconduct".
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assassin17
7838 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:28:40 PM
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Mitt Romney will never win the GOP nomination or President. He looks like an evil shark and is a Mormon... Both are big turnoffs to America. He will never overcome the Mormon church's eeriness and door-knocking annoyances. He has no chance.
Gingrich would be a total loss. Nobody is going to forget what a dick he is.
Huckabee is steadily creating a friendly "average guy" appearance with his TV show. He could be a steamroller by 2012, as conservatives will surely recognize him on Fox and he hasn't done or said a thing to tarnish his image so far. He is fixing his lack of exposure on a daily basis and using the media as a perfect outlet to become a familiar face. He's the guy right now. Let the Dems waste their energy on Palin until it's too late to see the freight-train comin'. |
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shaslam
728 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:39:13 PM
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Fair enough. A well stated counterpoint.
But in reference to the minority vote, don't you think they will come out in high numbers again in 2012 to support the incumbent that brought them out in record numbers in 2008? I they it will. Even if he completely destroys the economy, I still think he has an absolute lock on the minority vote over Palin. Don't forget that "minority" is a term that could even include gays. At least when you're talking about voting blocs. And the gays will never support an ultra rightwinger like Palin. Since gays can be estimated at roughly 10% of the population (I realize this is a highly disputable figure), that is another sizeable demographic that she cannot possibly win.
I'm sorry Vance, but I just don't see how it's possible for her to win without a radical, transformational makeover on her part. I will say however that I'm ever-anxious to see her try though. Because no matter how unfit I feel she is for office, she never fails to bring the compelling storylines and drama to the table. |
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seaRick1
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:44:59 PM
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frank drigotas j
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:49:46 PM
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Y'all are thinking that you need to defend the GOP by defending Palin.
Go ahead, make her your choice to become your nominee.
I just think y'all are making a colossal mistake.
Other GOP candidates may, but she will never get my vote. I don't believe that she has any depth or much intellect. Maybe I am alone in my thinking.
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:52:48 PM
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Originally posted by seaRick1
I hope to God Palin runs......I want to see that hottie as much as possible on TV. She will get chewed up in the primaries by her competitors. But if you guys think that she will appeal much to the independents, you're sadly mistaken. And the independent vote does count, at least if the election is tight. I'm still curious as to what Jindal will come out with though. If Romney wasn't Mormon he would stand a decent chance at winning, Huckabee's a nice guy but I don't see him winning either.
I don't think Independents make much difference in elections, as in the 1980 Presidential election. Too bad, as I would love to see at least a major third party.
Jindal has already stated he doesn't want to run in 2012. Can you blame hime? By the time the Media got done with him, predjudice against people of Indian desent would be at fever pitch. |
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darkstar
26263 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:53:29 PM
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The next 2 to 5 Presidents will spend all of their time unwinding the policies being signed on a weekly basis and manage a deficit, it's not like they will have any money to do anything new...
She's not it...I'd like her as VP for the eye-candy, but other than that, she's not POTUS material(not that Obama was, but making the same mistake over and over again won't help us)... |
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assassin17
7838 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:57:06 PM
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The mistake there is the dependence upon the word "minority". A minority group obviously has less people and therefore less votes, leaving it open to a loss.
Obama cannot rely upon a "minority" group, he needs to tap from the majority. Blacks will be expected to vote for someone they identify with in large numbers, gays may not like the GOP, but he cannot just ignore the large hispanic vote and the independent white voters which are part of a majority that produces victory.
There's one special thing about mass poverty... It pisses people off worse than any other subject. If he decimates the economy worse than when he started, those extra votes are not going his way, no matter who he runs against. No incumbent overcomes leaving things in a tremendous worse shambles than when he came in.
He can't use the "Bush" excuse in 2012, because he was expected to improve things in his 4 years, not necessarily fix them. Few of our recessions have lasted 4 years of continued downtrend, so theres's no excuse from a lack of improvement. There's no way all of his programs and changes will be perfected in the next 3.5 years. Failure to do that will drop him like a brick of condensed Jimmy Carter against anyone with a pulse.
The black vote will not be enough. You can't swing white voters your way by calling them trailer-trash, especially when you put them in that trailer. You can't win the hispanic vote by telling them how happy they should be just by being here, especially if "here" is a fleabag apartment with 30 people living in filth. He can point out "Bush" all he wants, but if Bush left and I was in an apartment and Obama leaves me in a trailer, I know who the culprit really is. Obama will have to produce results or he will be a sad footnote in US history. |
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assassin17
7838 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 2:58:08 PM
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 3:04:18 PM
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Originally posted by assassin17
The mistake there is the dependence upon the word "minority". A minority group obviously has less people and therefore less votes, leaving it open to a loss.
Obama cannot rely upon a "minority" group, he needs to tap from the majority. Blacks will be expected to vote for someone they identify with in large numbers, gays may not like the GOP, but he cannot just ignore the large hispanic vote and the independent white voters which are part of a majority that produces victory.
There's one special thing about mass poverty... It pisses people off worse than any other subject. If he decimates the economy worse than when he started, those extra votes are not going his way, no matter who he runs against. No incumbent overcomes leaving things in a tremendous worse shambles than when he came in.
He can't use the "Bush" excuse in 2012, because he was expected to improve things in his 4 years, not necessarily fix them. Few of our recessions have lasted 4 years of continued downtrend, so theres's no excuse from a lack of improvement. There's no way all of his programs and changes will be perfected in the next 3.5 years. Failure to do that will drop him like a brick of condensed Jimmy Carter against anyone with a pulse.
The black vote will not be enough. You can't swing white voters your way by calling them trailer-trash, especially when you put them in that trailer. You can't win the hispanic vote by telling them how happy they should be just by being here, especially if "here" is a fleabag apartment with 30 people living in filth. He can point out "Bush" all he wants, but if Bush left and I was in an apartment and Obama leaves me in a trailer, I know who the culprit really is. Obama will have to produce results or he will be a sad footnote in US history.
You make a good point. Old political saying..."unemployed constituents are unhappy constituents". |
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darkstar
26263 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 3:07:38 PM
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Mandyvilla
6395 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 3:18:55 PM
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I w/ Darkstar on this.......I am liking Romney more and more with each passing day, and I think he is far more capable than Huckabee. I keep saying it, it's way too early in the game to place a bet on any one horse. We have over 2 TRILLION in Option ARMs to adjust over the next 18 months.....let's see how things look at the end of 2010. This economy is going to get worse before it gets better guys, this is just the appetizer.
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 3:21:24 PM
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Originally posted by Mandyvilla
I w/ Darkstar on this.......I am liking Romney more and more with each passing day, and I think he is far more capable than Huckabee. I keep saying it, it's way too early in the game to place a bet on any one horse. We have over 2 TRILLION in Option ARMs to adjust over the next 18 months.....let's see how things look at the end of 2010. This economy is going to get worse before it gets better guys, this is just the appetizer.
One assumption that continues to be made by all...when it gets better. What if it never gets better? |
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mykal5
6130 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 3:28:21 PM
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Originally posted by darkstar
Romney's rating with Independents since he dropped out of race has gone from 25% to 44%, looks like the recession is playing into his strengths and they recognize that...
We'll be in full recovery mode by 2012. Romney will need to add additional strengths by then. |
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darkstar
26263 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 3:31:22 PM
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Originally posted by mykal5
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Originally posted by darkstar
Romney's rating with Independents since he dropped out of race has gone from 25% to 44%, looks like the recession is playing into his strengths and they recognize that...
We'll be in full recovery mode by 2012. Romney will need to add additional streghnths by then.
No way, we'll need his business expertise to unwind all the crap done in just 6 months, we're far from the end of the madness... |
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 3:40:02 PM
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Originally posted by darkstar
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Originally posted by mykal5
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Originally posted by darkstar
Romney's rating with Independents since he dropped out of race has gone from 25% to 44%, looks like the recession is playing into his strengths and they recognize that...
We'll be in full recovery mode by 2012. Romney will need to add additional streghnths by then.
No way, we'll need his business expertise to unwind all the crap done in just 6 months, we're far from the end of the madness...
Romney still splits Conservatives over the abortion issue.
The one image I have of Romney I can't get out of my head is when McCain had all the prospective VP nominees down to his ranch in Arizona. Granted, seeing these guys showing up for the photo opp in jeans and boots was bad enough (imagine Joe Lieberman in that kind of attire) but then Romney does one better by showing up in his $5,000 suit. I've always wondered why no one told him what the dress code was that day. |
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808
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 3:53:10 PM
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Originally posted by VVance
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Originally posted by frank drigotas jr
Moose, bear, clothes, snowmobiles, jogging...
The list of Palin topics of expertise grows longer and longer.
dollar
Yep...wait..wasn't there somthing else she did quite successfully.........that's right, isn't she a Governor of a State? Ah, well it's Alaska....and we all know those people there are complete idiots. I mean, it's amazing Alaska is even a state, right? I mean, those people aren't sophisticated like we are in the Northeast!
Now, if she had been something accomplished, like a community organizer, or a state senator, then she would be qualified.
the biggest flaw in your arguments for her is you keep comparing Palin to Obama. That's like comparing to 2 worst LO's at a broker shop & saying low producer A is constantly out writing low producer B so let's go w A. It's not an either/or scenario, get rid of them both!!! that's the answer.
The days of the GOP rolling out a candidate & saying 'here's our guy, vote for him cause we say so' are long gone if you wanna win the election. The crossover & undecided votes now play a big part in the elections & probably will continue to in the future unless Obama totally trashes the economy, then pretty much anyone w an economics degree that isn't a Dem and is faithful to his/her wife/husband could win. |
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djorge44
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 4:06:26 PM
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Frank I'll take a high level of common sense over a Harvard educated lefty liberal any day.
Common sense gets us out of a recession and it starts with doing what normal average intelligent Americans do when the finances get tight. They stop spending on stupid stuff and pay down their bills. |
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mykal5
6130 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 4:09:31 PM
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Originally posted by darkstar
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Originally posted by mykal5
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Originally posted by darkstar
Romney's rating with Independents since he dropped out of race has gone from 25% to 44%, looks like the recession is playing into his strengths and they recognize that...
We'll be in full recovery mode by 2012. Romney will need to add additional streghnths by then.
No way, we'll need his business expertise to unwind all the crap done in just 6 months, we're far from the end of the madness...
No, we won't. And if elected, no he wouldn't.
How do you unwind something anyway? And what makes you think Romney cares to do so?
I haven't heard much from him lately, but what I did hear is that he has been far more supportive of stimilus spending than some suspect.
Have you heard differently? |
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seaRick1
844 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 4:18:21 PM
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Why do you think the media would come down so hard on Jindal just because of his Indian desent? We have our first minority in the WH now - what's the difference?quote:
Originally posted by VVance
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Originally posted by seaRick1
I hope to God Palin runs......I want to see that hottie as much as possible on TV. She will get chewed up in the primaries by her competitors. But if you guys think that she will appeal much to the independents, you're sadly mistaken. And the independent vote does count, at least if the election is tight. I'm still curious as to what Jindal will come out with though. If Romney wasn't Mormon he would stand a decent chance at winning, Huckabee's a nice guy but I don't see him winning either.
I don't think Independents make much difference in elections, as in the 1980 Presidential election. Too bad, as I would love to see at least a major third party.
Jindal has already stated he doesn't want to run in 2012. Can you blame hime? By the time the Media got done with him, predjudice against people of Indian desent would be at fever pitch.
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darkstar
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 4:21:10 PM
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>>>How do you unwind something anyway?
Won't be easy getting those that expect the govt to do for them to actually do for themselves again...I don't expect liberals to understand that...They're the only ones that act like it's not their money being used when they hear "the govt will handle it"...
Any figures on how many Dems vs Reps pay taxes? |
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 4:24:31 PM
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Originally posted by seaRick1
Why do you think the media would come down so hard on Jindal just because of his Indian desent? We have our first minority in the WH now - what's the difference?quote:
Originally posted by VVance
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Originally posted by seaRick1
I hope to God Palin runs......I want to see that hottie as much as possible on TV. She will get chewed up in the primaries by her competitors. But if you guys think that she will appeal much to the independents, you're sadly mistaken. And the independent vote does count, at least if the election is tight. I'm still curious as to what Jindal will come out with though. If Romney wasn't Mormon he would stand a decent chance at winning, Huckabee's a nice guy but I don't see him winning either.
I don't think Independents make much difference in elections, as in the 1980 Presidential election. Too bad, as I would love to see at least a major third party.
Jindal has already stated he doesn't want to run in 2012. Can you blame hime? By the time the Media got done with him, predjudice against people of Indian desent would be at fever pitch.
The R next to his name makes the Media dislike him from the beginning. We also had our first minority female Sec. of State in the prior administration. That didn't keep the MSM from making racist statements and making racist political cartoons. I guess political party affiliation trumps everything else. |
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mykal5
6130 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 4:37:41 PM
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Originally posted by darkstar
>>>How do you unwind something anyway?
Won't be easy getting those that expect the govt to do for them to actually do for themselves again...I don't expect liberals to understand that...They're the only ones that act like it's not their money being used when they hear "the govt will handle it"...
Any figures on how many Dems vs Reps pay taxes?
I don't know what you are talking about. Do you?
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 4:44:02 PM
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Originally posted by mykal5
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Originally posted by darkstar
>>>How do you unwind something anyway?
Won't be easy getting those that expect the govt to do for them to actually do for themselves again...I don't expect liberals to understand that...They're the only ones that act like it's not their money being used when they hear "the govt will handle it"...
Any figures on how many Dems vs Reps pay taxes?
I don't know what you are talking about. Do you?
He's referring to any and all tax increases imposed by the current party in power in order to grow the size of Government.
You posted earlier that things will be fine by 2012, assuming you're believing the stimulus will work. My question to you, why didn't Obama, Pelosi and Reid front load this stimulus package in order to lift the economy as soon as possible? I'm not seeing the logic here?? |
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MisterVA
8643 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 4:59:13 PM
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Originally posted by Mandyvilla
I w/ Darkstar on this.......I am liking Romney more and more with each passing day, and I think he is far more capable than Huckabee. I keep saying it, it's way too early in the game to place a bet on any one horse. We have over 2 TRILLION in Option ARMs to adjust over the next 18 months.....let's see how things look at the end of 2010. This economy is going to get worse before it gets better guys, this is just the appetizer.
I blame Huckabee for Romney not gaining the nomination. I blame McCain for not selecting Romney for VP. Imagine the wisdom of that choice during the bailout issue in the fall. A couple of folks that interest me are John Boehner of Ohio and John Thune of SD. To the point of the thread title, I really do not see Sarah Palin escaping the Qualye-ing of her image. I would rather she run for the Senate or the House. I think she would actually accomplish something there unlike the inexperienced one in the WH. That guy, to borrow a term from Great Britain, was a 'back bencher'. With the game on the line, do you want your star shooter taking the FTs at the end of the game? Or do you want some guy plucked off the bench cold who has played a total of 24 minutes all season? Guess which guy is shooting the FTs? |
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 5:16:59 PM
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Originally posted by MisterVA
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Originally posted by Mandyvilla
I w/ Darkstar on this.......I am liking Romney more and more with each passing day, and I think he is far more capable than Huckabee. I keep saying it, it's way too early in the game to place a bet on any one horse. We have over 2 TRILLION in Option ARMs to adjust over the next 18 months.....let's see how things look at the end of 2010. This economy is going to get worse before it gets better guys, this is just the appetizer.
I blame Huckabee for Romney not gaining the nomination. I blame McCain for not selecting Romney for VP. Imagine the wisdom of that choice during the bailout issue in the fall. A couple of folks that interest me are John Boehner of Ohio and John Thune of SD. To the point of the thread title, I really do not see Sarah Palin escaping the Qualye-ing of her image. I would rather she run for the Senate or the House. I think she would actually accomplish something there unlike the inexperienced one in the WH. That guy, to borrow a term from Great Britain, was a 'back bencher'. With the game on the line, do you want your star shooter taking the FTs at the end of the game? Or do you want some guy plucked off the bench cold who has played a total of 24 minutes all season? Guess which guy is shooting the FTs?
Would you want to belong to a club that had Al Franken as a member? |
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frank drigotas j
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 5:31:47 PM
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"To the point of the thread title, I really do not see Sarah Palin escaping the Qualye-ing of her image. I would rather she run for the Senate or the House."
VVance, above
That makes sense to me.
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MisterVA
8643 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 6:22:51 PM
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Originally posted by frank drigotas jr
"To the point of the thread title, I really do not see Sarah Palin escaping the Qualye-ing of her image. I would rather she run for the Senate or the House."
VVance, above
That makes sense to me.
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That was me, Frank. |
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frank drigotas j
3871 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 7:30:04 PM
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So it was.
Well, no wonder I thought it made sense.
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craigppls
2115 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 7:43:52 PM
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Originally posted by seaRick1
I hope to God Palin runs......I want to see that hottie as much as possible on TV. She will get chewed up in the primaries by her competitors. But if you guys think that she will appeal much to the independents, you're sadly mistaken. And the independent vote does count, at least if the election is tight. I'm still curious as to what Jindal will come out with though. If Romney wasn't Mormon he would stand a decent chance at winning, Huckabee's a nice guy but I don't see him winning either.
you must live in Alaska if you think she is hot. Come to Cali sometime, so cal has some women |
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 7:45:06 PM
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I live in Florida, there are tons of hot women here.
Sarah Palin is hot. She is def. a milf. |
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Scrooge McDuck
15108 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 8:30:58 PM
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im worried about you Dave.
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Originally posted by djorge44
I live in Florida, there are tons of hot women here.
Sarah Palin is hot. She is def. a milf.
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 9:20:00 PM
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This is long, but pretty good stuff on what Palin's up against in relation to media bias.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/01/audio-john-ziegler-grills-politico-reporter-for-calling-palin-a-circus-act/ |
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2009 : 06:12:45 AM
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Andrew,
Why worry? I would only hope if I had 5 children with a woman that she would still look like Palin does. She is not winning any bikini contests but she is def. an attractive woman.
I hope to high hell that Huckabee does not run in 2012, something about him rubs me the wrong way. I can't watch his show at all. |
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2009 : 06:28:04 AM
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Really? Unless you are in Miami Beach, all you see anywhere you go is eother old bags or redneck women ... tatoos from head to toe an all. I guess "hot" is relative. You should get out of Florida more often.
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Originally posted by djorge44
I live in Florida, there are tons of hot women here.
Sarah Palin is hot. She is def. a milf.
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2009 : 06:33:07 AM
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No one but the failed one herself is keeping her in the news. I agree with you that she is not failing at anything related to her job in Alaska ... only her efforts to somhow try and establish some credibility outside of Alaska. I think that she is actuall the most accomplished and successful of all the GOP hopefuls ... and that ain't sayin much.
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Originally posted by assassin17
How about a thread focusing on the greatness of Joe Biden with a list of his accomplishments. He won the job on Barry's coattails, right?
Why the pre-occupation with someone who wasn't hired? Unless, of course, we are MEANT to be pre-occupied with it to ignore the ones who were.
Ok, let's discuss Palin. According to the title, she's "failin". At what? She isn't running for anything. Is she "failin" to get her name and face out there? I'd say she is greatly exceeding expectations.
With exposure comes familiarity, with familiarity comes acceptance, and with acceptance comes political victory, on name alone. So, where's she "failin"? She's laughing all the way to the bank and possibly the White House with all of this attention, so the "failin" is done by the free promotion she's receiving from her detractors, which is actually going to further her career.
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LanceB
169 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2009 : 06:38:12 AM
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| She is still hot. |
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2009 : 06:53:15 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
Really? Unless you are in Miami Beach, all you see anywhere you go is eother old bags or redneck women ... tatoos from head to toe an all. I guess "hot" is relative. You should get out of Florida more often.
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Originally posted by djorge44
I live in Florida, there are tons of hot women here.
Sarah Palin is hot. She is def. a milf.
CMG, as usual you are an idiot. Tampa is full of people from South America, Central America, New York, Boston, Ohio, Pennsylvania. It has women from all over.
There are a lot of tattoos though but they are everywhere. |
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2009 : 07:01:14 AM
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Thanks for the compliment. Look in the mirror ... you said "Florida", not "Tampa".
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Originally posted by djorge44
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
Really? Unless you are in Miami Beach, all you see anywhere you go is eother old bags or redneck women ... tatoos from head to toe an all. I guess "hot" is relative. You should get out of Florida more often.
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Originally posted by djorge44
I live in Florida, there are tons of hot women here.
Sarah Palin is hot. She is def. a milf.
CMG, as usual you are an idiot. Tampa is full of people from South America, Central America, New York, Boston, Ohio, Pennsylvania. It has women from all over.
There are a lot of tattoos though but they are everywhere.
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2009 : 07:05:37 AM
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Florida includes Tampa, Orlando, Jax, Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, Boca, etc.
There are hot girls in all these places.
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frank drigotas j
3871 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2009 : 07:09:07 AM
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"There are a lot of tattoos though but they are everywhere."
djorge, above
You've looked?
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hertz
1546 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2009 : 07:10:00 AM
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| Socal is great, if you like botox and plastic. |
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the_mortgage_guy
2628 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2009 : 10:11:01 AM
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Originally posted by shaslam
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Originally posted by djorge44
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Originally posted by shaslam
Ooooh it's so juicy!! Now instead of being just a bunch of quotes from "anonymous sources", people are actually going on the record about the epic failure that was McCain's VP choice. Enjoy. . .
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908
I think it is funny that you say this is juicy then admit later in the thread to not even have read it (you were on page 3 of 6).
I don't know about you but I usually read something completely before posting it. To each his own I guess.
I was posting it so we could all discuss it. I wasn't using it as a reference or debating point of a particular argument. I just wanted to throw it out there for folks who might be interested but aren't normally readers of Vanity Fair.
Makes sense...as their is a huge influx of gay men in IRAN. Doesn't Obama know that Allah forbids that, shaslam? |
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