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bestbet123
1690 Posts |
 Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:09:29 PM
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Count me in.
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Originally posted by RANDY P
Sweet!
See? A true Capitalist in action. Maybe we can get socialized programs for LO's? maybe a fairness doctorine for that?
I'd be down with it.
rjp
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Mandyvilla
6395 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:15:21 PM
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hmmm, her wiki page is gone.....makes me wonder who the author was...that's the only one that could have taken him her down from there, otherwise there would be a history page. |
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RANDY P
4163 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:17:38 PM
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I'm sure it was some evil, hate filled Republican.
They all are like that.
rjp
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Originally posted by Mandyvilla
hmmm, her wiki page is gone.....makes me wonder who the author was...that's the only one that could have taken him her down from there, otherwise there would be a history page.
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BigFire
2963 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:23:11 PM
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lets see - GE owns NBC, Disney owns ABC, I forgot who owns CBS. Murdoch owns much of anything else. So do you think their slant is anything but their choice of what they want as 'news' of the day? Or would for example NBC run a true story on nuclear power leak since they sell the equipment? The airwaves are all of ours - not just Rush's, Hannity's, etc...
Originate_This - I posted those links for you to see - and make your own decision - I am not saying it is a chupacabra - but I do not know what it is and the others that they have found recently. So you must be the final judge? |
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khoiey
2968 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:29:36 PM
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| How do you quadruple the post? I thought BO forum has a spamming feature? |
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BigFire
2963 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:30:55 PM
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wikipedia link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rachel_Maddow_Show
hit the:
search for The rachel maddow show in Wikipedia |
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toddblue
4343 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:37:06 PM
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Big Fire,
Think about it. If the government limits 1st Amendment rights of one party in order to allow another party to speak, is that right?
You seem to like this Rachel you started the thread about. Should she be interrupted half way through her show to allow Rush Limbaugh to speak?
If a show is commercially successful, the networks will air it without regards to political viewpoint. Unfortunately, liberals have yet to find a profitable voice. |
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Originate_This
388 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:39:10 PM
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Originally posted by BigFire
Originate_This - I posted those links for you to see - and make your own decision - I am not saying it is a chupacabra - but I do not know what it is and the others that they have found recently. So you must be the final judge?
That's all well and good however the poster after you said that he saw the videos and didn't believe it was a chupacabra.
Your response:
"What don't you believe... your eyes?
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RANDY P
4163 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:46:39 PM
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To a company, airtime = inventory. Inventory is sold to advertisers. The draw of the advertisers are the listening / reading / viewing base. No base= no incentive to advertise.
It costs them money to have to devote time to issues that frankly, advertisers don't want to pay for. Imagine having to contribute all proceeds from every 5th loan to some cause you have no desire to support? You take a pay cut because of government mandated "fairness" airtime?
Theft is what it amounts to.
EDIT: the US Govt isn't responsible for creation of radio stations, TV stations, etc. etc. PRIVATE CITIZENS AND CORPORATIONS ARE.
rjp(quote:
Originally posted by toddblue
Big Fire,
Think about it. If the government limits 1st Amendment rights of one party in order to allow another party to speak, is that right?
You seem to like this Rachel you started the thread about. Should she be interrupted half way through her show to allow Rush Limbaugh to speak?
If a show is commercially successful, the networks will air it without regards to political viewpoint. Unfortunately, liberals have yet to find a profitable voice.
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BigFire
2963 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:50:54 PM
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Originate - he called it a pit bull - it is not. Therefor what is it? I am a biological scientist and I do not recognize it. I am out in the country a lot and do not know what it is. Neither does the police officer know what it is...so what is it?
Toddblue - the air waves belong to the people, not to the corporations. Therefore there should be equal time overall, not per show. So if there is 30 minutes for Hannity there should be thirty minutes for an opposing view. Simple. I do not need corporate dogma shoved down my throat on my air waves. Also, if you call your show a 'news' show, therefore it better be news, not infotainment, and you are smart, you know what I am describing. |
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bestbet123
1690 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:52:10 PM
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Jay,
I just noticed the EX on your sig,what are you doing now?With that MBA i mean.
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Originally posted by BigFire
Originate - he called it a pit bull - it is not. Therefor what is it? I am a biological scientist and I do not recognize it. I am out in the country a lot and do not know what it is. Neither does the police officer know what it is...so what is it?
Toddblue - the air waves belong to the people, not to the corporations. Therefore there shoud be equal time overall, not per show. So if there is 30 minutes for Hannity there should be thirty minutes for an opposing view. Simple. I do not need corporate dogma shoved down my throat on my air waves. Also, if you call your show a 'news' show, therefore it better be news, not infotainment, and you are smart, you know what I am describing.
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KHufford
10407 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 8:57:25 PM
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Keep in mind: Flavor Flav, Paris Hilton, Tila Tequila, New York, The Kardashians, Spencer Pratt, Sunset Tan, ect ect all have TV shows....
I dont even know who this chick is, but every idoit has a show these days.
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assassin17
7838 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 9:01:22 PM
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toddblue
4343 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 9:07:08 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by BigFire
Originate - he called it a pit bull - it is not. Therefor what is it? I am a biological scientist and I do not recognize it. I am out in the country a lot and do not know what it is. Neither does the police officer know what it is...so what is it?
Toddblue - the air waves belong to the people, not to the corporations. Therefore there shoud be equal time overall, not per show. So if there is 30 minutes for Hannity there should be thirty minutes for an opposing view. Simple. I do not need corporate dogma shoved down my throat on my air waves. Also, if you call your show a 'news' show, therefore it better be news, not infotainment, and you are smart, you know what I am describing.
How many points of view do you allow? Do we have a Green segment, and a Libertarian segment, and a Socialist segment, and a Christian Conservative segment, and a Communist segment, and a Fascist segment, and a White Power Skinhead segment, and an Anarchist segment, and a Monarchist segment, and so on and so on?
Who gets to decide what is fair?
I'd rather let a free market decide how our airwaves are used. Listeners 'vote' for who stays on air by tuning in and creating good ratings.
And I do believe the airwaves belong to us. And we should lease the out to the highest bidder. That means the shows with the best ratings and highest revenues survive.
There are plenty of outlets for political viewpoints (TV, radio, internet, newspapers soap boxes in the park). That is unless you're Ron Paul! |
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RANDY P
4163 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 9:13:43 PM
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all still operating, unlike Air America.
LOL
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Originally posted by KHufford
Keep in mind: Flavor Flav, Paris Hilton, Tila Tequila, New York, The Kardashians, Spencer Pratt, Sunset Tan, ect ect all have TV shows....
I dont even know who this chick is, but every idoit has a show these days.
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BigFire
2963 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 9:13:45 PM
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Bestbet -
I am doing loans, consulting, and applying for good work.
Thanks for asking.
Jay |
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vburek
523 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 9:16:54 PM
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| Jay, you can turn the channel so you are not forced to hear anything. |
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RANDY P
4163 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 9:21:55 PM
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So what you are saying is that money is the way of keeping score - or more aptly, it's a way of showing what the listeners want to hear? In contrast - If in the name of "fairness" the local radio show has to do a segment sponsored by say, "man and beast marriage" and no one tunes in, how does the station continue to pay for expenses?
Who would ever think that corporations or whomever owns these things actually NEED money from advertisers, who in turn get their money from listeners?
Quite a concept. This whole time I thought radio shows were really "free".
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Originally posted by toddblue
quote:
Originally posted by BigFire
Originate - he called it a pit bull - it is not. Therefor what is it? I am a biological scientist and I do not recognize it. I am out in the country a lot and do not know what it is. Neither does the police officer know what it is...so what is it?
Toddblue - the air waves belong to the people, not to the corporations. Therefore there shoud be equal time overall, not per show. So if there is 30 minutes for Hannity there should be thirty minutes for an opposing view. Simple. I do not need corporate dogma shoved down my throat on my air waves. Also, if you call your show a 'news' show, therefore it better be news, not infotainment, and you are smart, you know what I am describing.
How many points of view do you allow? Do we have a Green segment, and a Libertarian segment, and a Socialist segment, and a Christian Conservative segment, and a Communist segment, and a Fascist segment, and a White Power Skinhead segment, and an Anarchist segment, and a Monarchist segment, and so on and so on?
Who gets to decide what is fair?
I'd rather let a free market decide how our airwaves are used. Listeners 'vote' for who stays on air by tuning in and creating good ratings.
And I do believe the airwaves belong to us. And we should lease the out to the highest bidder. That means the shows with the best ratings and highest revenues survive.
There are plenty of outlets for political viewpoints (TV, radio, internet, newspapers soap boxes in the park). That is unless you're Ron Paul!
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BigFire
2963 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 9:34:33 PM
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I don't watch it much...too controlled. I get my real news from BBC, DW, CBC, Japan Television, Russian television, Financial Times, CNN, MSNBC, others.
Randy - FYI - the fairness doctrine worked fine until Reagan came along. That is why he wanted it removed. |
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assassin17
7838 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 10:09:38 PM
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Hmmm, let me see... a Republican, who believes in less government intervention, would not want a rule that allows the government to dictate what opinions are broadcast on radio airwaves, or to give free time to counter someone who has paid for airtime.
By contrast, Democrats, who believe in government control, will insist that since there is a "limit" on the number of radio frequency channels the government should force these private owners to broadcast opposing viewpoints and risk losing the "limited" amount of advertisers and listeners in the area and possibly go out of business.
This conveniently forgets that if 'Party A' purchases airtime there is nothing stopping 'Party B' from also purchasing airtime. However, when 'Party B' has less money to spend, they prefer the "free handout" by screaming 'Fairness Doctrine', which is unfair to the private station owners who must then foot the bill for something that may lose their paying customers. Amazingly, in 2008 when the Democrats have both (a) more money to spend and (b) control of Congress, there is no bill introduced to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.
This also forgets that radio frequencies have a limited broadcasting range (by law), so in theory there is no "limit" on the number of channels until all bandwidth has been used in every region of the USA, which has never happened.
Yep. Sounds about right on both sides.
If you lean down the Center, like I try to do, you'd simply say; Allow the creation of one nationwide radio station for every desirous party, dependent upon it's own funding, and leave all private stations alone. Problem solved. |
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toddblue
4343 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2008 : 10:48:54 PM
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Assassin,
Nancy Pelosi has been floating the resurrection of the fairness doctrine the last few days. (Google News "Fairness Doctrine")
The FCC Commisioner has gone as far as to express concern tha it may also be used to control internet blogs.
The reason we have not seen it under this Democrat Congress is that Bush would veto it. They are waiting for Obama to be able to push it through. |
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samurai
2351 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 04:47:13 AM
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http://www.fumento.com/ibdtalkradio.html
"Talk radio appeals to people who realize their voices are not heard and a lot of those people are conservatives out in hinterland," according to Robert Lichter, co-director of the Center for Media and Public Affairs in Washington. "Number one, they want to yell at journalists. And, number two, they want someone else to yell at them."
AM radio is very popular and readily accessible in Appalachia, while internet access is not too widespread. I wonder if this has anything to do with the popularity of conservative talk radio.
18 million people listen to Rush Limbaugh every week. Now guess how many people live in Appalachia.
I am just saying......
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GianniD
237 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 06:43:28 AM
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Originally posted by BigFire
Reagan removed the fairness doctrine.
Newspapers and TV networks are the 2 greatest sources of news in the US. There is no objective doubt that these sources, when taken as a whole, are very liberal. When libs/progressives/socialists want to mandate that each newspaper give equal time and space, that each network give equal time and space, then, we can have a further discussion about 'fairness'.
Talk radio started out as news-entertainment, and grew like it did stricly via meritocracy. Conservatives had nowhere else to go to get news and facts that werent filtered through a leftists prism. Air America had every chance to earn market share that Rush, Hannity, etc had. Why'd they fail?
Of the 6 major TV networks, ABC NBC CBS CNN MSNBC and Fox, the 1 who day in and day out has the most even split of lib-conservatives on is Fox. (Thats why libs hate them, they cant control them.) You can take the oppurtunity to prove me wrong, but I doubt you will. Im a conservative libertarian, and I know I see way way way more of Bob Beckel, Kristen Powers, that Carol Channing sounding lady, the angry blk profesor from Temple, etc on Fox, than I want. Even Hannity, whom most leftists hate, has a lib co host, and on virtually every segment, has a lib to offer their opinion.
Laugh at the 'Fair and Balanced' tag line, but, PROVE, over more than just a day or so, that the oter 5 networks offer more conservative opinions that Fox does lib opinions.
ABC CBS NBC are so far left they have to look east to see Berkeley. CNN believes its objective, but has nowhere near a 50-50 split. MSNBC, well, once its primary talking head has a gay moment re: about a feeling running up his leg when thinking about B Hussein. |
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the_mortgage_guy
2628 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 07:01:37 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by BigFire
You people care about yourself and your party versus OUR country. Simple as that.
Todd Blue - our country was started on liberal ideas - and it has worked well.
Really? I thought we were founded as a republic? Could have fooled me. |
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SoCalRay
2698 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 07:01:59 AM
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Randy
Why do you hate California so Much?
Republican Governors and Employee Unions have done more damage to the State of California. The last Republican Governor that was good for California was Reagan.
Dukmeijan put a Moratorium on Refineries and Power Plants so he really screwed us on Power.
Wilson did not really do anything.
And what the right wing has a woman speaker is scary
Ann Coulter is a Tranvestite
Look at her Adam's Apple.
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the_mortgage_guy
2628 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 07:04:55 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by BigFire
Reagan removed the fairness doctrine.
You who are libertarian / Randy's are the ones who use character assassination. Avoid facts and attack the person on their strengths.
Your party is the borrow and spend, we are the worlds largest borrower - it is not good.
Again, she is smart and knows her stuff - deal with it.
I see, you know her don't you or you are one of those crazed fans that probably freeze frames her on your tivo, right? |
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 07:10:53 AM
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The so call "Fairness" Doctrine is just another way for the left to try to force things on people.
There are 600 channells and countless radio stations, there is XM and Sirius. If you don't like a show, change the channell.
Where would the "fairness" doctrine end?
Does the Nazi party get equal time, what about the KKK, what about La Raza, what about the Green Party, the Libertarian party, or The Dave Jorge is awesome party?
The Fairness doctrine is only talked about because the people in power (both Republicans and Democrats) want to stifle any form of dissent. Talk radio is one of the ways people can dissent in mass (see immigration plan for McCain and Bush that was stopped, the Dubia ports deal etc..) |
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SoCalRay
2698 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 07:14:54 AM
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Bush Administration OK'd the Dubai deal
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RANDY P
4163 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 08:08:26 AM
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oh, I see- use "hate" - implies something wrong with me. Liberal playbook again...
"Republican" governors? No, Arnold inherited the mess left by Davis, and actually raised more revenue for the state, only to have it spent AGAIN by your legislature on unions, pensions, anything that the state employees and services wanted.
PS say what you want about Ann- true, but you have Nancy Pelosi.
rjp
EDIT AGAIN - BTW you're 2 threads behind. We're up to Liberal airtime theft now.
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Originally posted by SoCalRay
Randy
Why do you hate California so Much?
Republican Governors and Employee Unions have done more damage to the State of California. The last Republican Governor that was good for California was Reagan.
Dukmeijan put a Moratorium on Refineries and Power Plants so he really screwed us on Power.
Wilson did not really do anything.
And what the right wing has a woman speaker is scary
Ann Coulter is a Tranvestite
Look at her Adam's Apple.
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gopackers
454 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 08:11:07 AM
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Great, but she is a democrat. who wants to listen to her biased crap. isn't that idiot keith olbermann enough?
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Originally posted by BigFire
Let us congratulate Rachel Maddow for getting her own television show. This is really impressive. She is smart and well prepared. Congratulations.
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BigFire
2963 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 08:37:58 AM
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| gopackers - your intelligent discourse is highly appreciated. Keep it up. |
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mbrownusa
1534 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 09:04:35 AM
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Originally posted by bestbet123
Amen to that....but she still looks like a dude.
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So true, I have a video clip of her winning the MEN's diving competition....
http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/GtTGmn0E2aE53yTY
(sorry rather lame but I need to relax again and have fun) |
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BigFire
2963 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 09:16:12 AM
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| she looks like a dude...typical republican character slander. She has a Phd and is very intelligent. What do you have as an accomplishment? You repubs are so silly and ignorant. Please stop showing it, you are embarrassing your mothers. |
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gopackers
454 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 09:25:44 AM
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That's funny. what do you have to show for yourself with your MBA sitting in the unemployment line. maybe that's why you are a democrat, you want free money. maybe you could qualify for food stamps and wick on top of the unemployment you are getting.
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Originally posted by BigFire
she looks like a dude...typical republican character slander. She has a Phd and is very intelligent. What do you have as an accomplishment? You repubs are so silly and ignorant. Please stop showing it, you are embarrassing your mothers.
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SoCalRay
2698 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 09:36:46 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by RANDY P
oh, I see- use "hate" - implies something wrong with me. Liberal playbook again...
"Republican" governors? No, Arnold inherited the mess left by Davis, and actually raised more revenue for the state, only to have it spent AGAIN by your legislature on unions, pensions, anything that the state employees and services wanted.
PS say what you want about Ann- true, but you have Nancy Pelosi.
rjp
EDIT AGAIN - BTW you're 2 threads behind. We're up to Liberal airtime theft now.
quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay
Randy
Why do you hate California so Much?
Republican Governors and Employee Unions have done more damage to the State of California. The last Republican Governor that was good for California was Reagan.
Dukmeijan put a Moratorium on Refineries and Power Plants so he really screwed us on Power.
Wilson did not really do anything.
And what the right wing has a woman speaker is scary
Ann Coulter is a Tranvestite
Look at her Adam's Apple.
I have to agree with you on the Employee Unions
They are the main reason california is a mess
And no Governor since Reagan has stood up to them
You could save $250,000,000.00 (That is Million) if you cut down the number of engineers on Cal Trans Payroll
They have 1700 plus engineers on an average salary of $165K
They have a clause in their contract for keeping so many employed
Teacher Union is another one - 85 percent of LA school district is Admin Cost
I do not think cutting so called Social Programs would do nearly as much help as cutting some of the costs of employee unions
Davis inherited the Mess that Dukemejian and Wilson created - He did not have a chance and Arnold has found out how much a stranglehold the Employee Unions have in Sacramento
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Originate_This
388 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 09:40:35 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay
And no Governor since Reagan has stood up to them
Not that I'm a fan of our Governor, but a few years ago he did try to stand up to the teacher's union with some special ballot initiatives. Unfortunately they didn't pass and Arnold backed down. |
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samurai
2351 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 10:06:10 AM
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she looks like a dude
If this is all anyone can come up with to criticize her political views, then she doesn't have much to worry about besides her sexuality, which should play no part in a political discussion.
As pointed out before, this is a well educated individual, much like other journalists, who can see beyond the fake facade built by the republican party and the lies fed to the "hard working" Americans who support them because they want to preserve the "American way",whatever that is supposed to mean. Most people who support the republican tax cuts don't earn enough to benefit from them, but they are made to believe it is in their best interest to support the polcies that benefit the 1% who control most of the wealth in this country.
What is wrong with a society taking care of people who are going through harships? What is wrong with providing a security blanket for the unemployed? Why should someone making $120,000 a year pay the same in FICA as someone making $800K a year?
I need to be enlightened.
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SoCalRay
2698 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 10:17:15 AM
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Samurai
You hit something there.
If this country was founded on Christian Values, Are we not supposed to help our fellow Man?
I do believe in Workfare over Welfare.
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BigFire
2963 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 11:51:52 AM
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gopackers - thank you for your concern of my financial welfare - but to tell you the truth, I fart more money than you make in a year. You say you are a president of a company? What a joke.
I see that you are incapable of staying on topic - so please answer any of the questions that have been raised. Or are you unable to partake in discussions without character attacks? And since you mentioned my degree, you can get one also if you take the time and put your nose to the grindstone. |
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gopackers
454 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 11:57:32 AM
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Well it looks like I am already the smarter one even without my MBA. and staying on topic? you called me out so deal with it. and if your unemployment checks are paying you more then what i make, i need get a job working for someone elsa and get fired so i can make your big bucks.
quote:
Originally posted by BigFire
gopackers - thank you for your concern of my financial welfare - but to tell you the truth, I fart more money than you make in a year. You say you are a president of a company? What a joke.
I see that you are incapable of staying on topic - so please answer any of the questions that have been raised. Or are you unable to partake in discussions without character attacks? And since you mentioned my degree, you can get one also if you take the time and put your nose to the grindstone.
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samurai
2351 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 12:02:47 PM
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maybe that's why you are a democrat, you want free money.
What is free money? I have been thinking about this real hard but still can't figure it out. |
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the_mortgage_guy
2628 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 12:07:51 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by BigFire
gopackers - thank you for your concern of my financial welfare - but to tell you the truth, I fart more money than you make in a year. You say you are a president of a company? What a joke.
I see that you are incapable of staying on topic - so please answer any of the questions that have been raised. Or are you unable to partake in discussions without character attacks? And since you mentioned my degree, you can get one also if you take the time and put your nose to the grindstone.
I thought we were founded as a republic, Jay.
Also, who cares how much money you make - talk about getting off subject. |
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gopackers
454 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 12:08:46 PM
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i was referring to unemployment and living off government subsidies.
quote:
Originally posted by samurai
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maybe that's why you are a democrat, you want free money.
What is free money? I have been thinking about this real hard but still can't figure it out.
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BigFire
2963 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 12:10:08 PM
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| gopackers - you do not get it. Wholesale is going away. Therefore where will you get your loans done? FHA will possibly, I say possibly going away eventually also. So I again ask, where are you going to get your loans funded? Since you are so concerned about my financial welfare, I am am doing other things that pay as much or more than what I was making, so please do not concern yourself with my financial welfare. |
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gopackers
454 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 12:17:33 PM
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Mortgages count for less then half of my income. I will always do them, but I am focusing on other things also. the scary thing is that we amy to much alike except that i'm republican and your a democrat. that is the reason we got into this arguement anyways. i'm out.
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Originally posted by BigFire
gopackers - you do not get it. Wholesale is going away. Therefore where will you get your loans done? FHA will possibly, I say possibly going away eventually also. So I again ask, where are you going to get your loans funded? Since you are so concerned about my financial welfare, I am am doing other things that pay as much or more than what I was making, so please do not concern yourself with my financial welfare.
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samurai
2351 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 12:52:13 PM
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I was referring to unemployment and living off government subsidies.
I know. But I still don't understand why that is free money.
How many large corporations receive government subsidies?
How many farmers receive government subsidies?
FHA is subsidized by the government.
Fannie and Freddie are both indirectly subsidized by the government.
SBA loans are subsidized by the government.
Student loans are subsidized by the government.
Defense contractors receive subsidies.
So, if you had your way, would you do away with all government subsidies or only those that direclty benefit the poor and the underprivileged?
Subsidies serve an economic and social purpose. Some are abused and designed to benefit a small group of politically connected individuals; but I hardly ever hear people complain about them, mostly because no one even knows they exist.
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ddsoffice
78 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 1:39:01 PM
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Originally posted by BigFire
Let us congratulate Rachel Maddow for getting her own television show. This is really impressive. She is smart and well prepared. Congratulations.
Waah! I don't know who Rachel Maddow is,now I do! But I thought she was a fellow LO running her own show to educate the public about lending and real estate. Does anybody know of a thread with links to LO's sites who manage to make contributions on local radio and or tv networks? One that I do know of is Fred Solomon of Solomon Financial, they offer www.freemoneyhour.com and a newsletter. I think he may have been a past student of loan trainer Brian Sacks who posts a column on http://www.brokeruniverse.com/ and who also offers a number of marketing training ideas and materials since at one point I did purchase his offerings.
The stuff that Fred Solomon and others like him are doing is highly professional and worthy of consideration for anyone looking to do our business in a committed way. |
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 2:51:16 PM
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| I bought Brian Sachs stuff a long time ago. Nothing special. He is an advocate for niche marketing and his is bk people. Now that you know, you don't have to spend the money unless you want to. |
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vburek
523 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 3:23:09 PM
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Originally posted by samurai
[quote]she looks like a dude
If this is all anyone can come up with to criticize her political views, then she doesn't have much to worry about besides her sexuality, which should play no part in a political discussion.
As pointed out before, this is a well educated individual, much like other journalists, who can see beyond the fake facade built by the republican party and the lies fed to the "hard working" Americans who support them because they want to preserve the "American way",whatever that is supposed to mean. Most people who support the republican tax cuts don't earn enough to benefit from them, but they are made to believe it is in their best interest to support the polcies that benefit the 1% who control most of the wealth in this country.
What is wrong with a society taking care of people who are going through harships? What is wrong with providing a security blanket for the unemployed? Why should someone making $120,000 a year pay the same in FICA as someone making $800K a year?
I need to be enlightened.
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Here is the problem with your thoughts, it is not fair. Shouldnt every one pay there fair share. You obviously arent the one making $800k but liberals want the successful to pay more. |
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RANDY P
4163 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 3:42:02 PM
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LOL
Up here in fruity butt Seattle we had on Public TV a show called "Public Sex"- exactly what the name implied.
Followed by some fat chick who painted herself Green and danced around naked for 1/2 hour.
True story. I'm not making this up.
rjp
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Originally posted by stewpot
Randy P--Now Id watch that man and beast marriage show! I think your on to something. lol
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