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American Credit
964 Posts |
 Posted - 03/04/2010 : 10:47:22 AM
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| President Obama has proposed a 1.4% pay increase for active duty military in 2011. This is THE LOWEST SINCE 1973! Nice to know that during a time of rampant inflation, while war is fought in 2 theatres, our men and women in uniform get A LOWER PAY INCREASE THAN WELFARE RECIPIENTS!!! |
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homebroker@sbcgl
9092 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2010 : 12:41:21 PM
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| No surprise, personally welfare should be stopped immediately for all, we cannot afford it right now. |
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darkstar
30830 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2010 : 1:02:39 PM
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| I blame them all in D.C. for this...If it got thru, the majority of them agreed to it, just vote anti-incumbent and current problems solved...We'll deal with the new ones as we face them... |
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American Credit
964 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2010 : 1:25:18 PM
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Originally posted by homebroker@sbcglobal.net
No surprise, personally welfare should be stopped immediately for all, we cannot afford it right now.
Or require everyone receiving assistance to pass random drug tests. |
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craigppls
2477 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2010 : 3:12:34 PM
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rampant inflation...really
numbnut the increase in military pay is generally tied to the cost of living index.
while I do agree military pay *****...it has always sucked...its not like they got in, then found out the pay *****. There are some perks too...what job gives you money for a place to live, also in a combat zone you do get a raise and tax breaks. Plus they pay for your schooling...bro-in-law is working to getting his master's degree all on the governments dime.
After you have been in for a while, the pay isnt half bad. My brother-in-law is getting like 70-80K...while in good times not great money...in these times with benefits...most would take it.
one more benefit...in the worst recession in our lifetime...do you job...and your never going to get downsized...nice to have job security...
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Originally posted by American Credit Repair
President Obama has proposed a 1.4% pay increase for active duty military in 2011. This is THE LOWEST SINCE 1973! Nice to know that during a time of rampant inflation, while war is fought in 2 theatres, our men and women in uniform get A LOWER PAY INCREASE THAN WELFARE RECIPIENTS!!!
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American Credit
964 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2010 : 3:51:26 PM
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| Numbnut? You really don't think our active troops should have a higher pay increase than people on welfare? I think our troops deserve much better than we're giving them. Think the should have gotten paid more under Bush too. However, when money is being tossed around like its nothing (as it is now), why would you choose to skimp on the men and women protecting us? |
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Rampart
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Posted - 03/04/2010 : 4:47:25 PM
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You must have forgotten about Carter, the year we got squat. The Prez then claimed we served for pride, not money. 1.4% is insulting, but not the worst- and back then inflation was rampant.
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Originally posted by American Credit Repair
President Obama has proposed a 1.4% pay increase for active duty military in 2011. This is THE LOWEST SINCE 1973! Nice to know that during a time of rampant inflation, while war is fought in 2 theatres, our men and women in uniform get A LOWER PAY INCREASE THAN WELFARE RECIPIENTS!!!
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CoolMtgGuy
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Posted - 03/04/2010 : 5:04:44 PM
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| Like teaching, it looks like pay has not hindered their recruiting. My son is happy with what his pay and benefits. Not sure how much would be enough. |
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Rampart
1387 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2010 : 5:11:06 PM
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
Like teaching, it looks like pay has not hindered their recruiting. My son is happy with what his pay and benefits. Not sure how much would be enough.
Like teaching???? |
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CoolMtgGuy
12187 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2010 : 9:20:51 PM
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Yes ... like teaching. What is your problem with that analogy? Please spell it out for me.
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Originally posted by Rampart
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
Like teaching, it looks like pay has not hindered their recruiting. My son is happy with what his pay and benefits. Not sure how much would be enough.
Like teaching????
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Agent_Mike
1592 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2010 : 11:05:33 PM
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Originally posted by American Credit Repair
President Obama has proposed a 1.4% pay increase for active duty military in 2011. This is THE LOWEST SINCE 1973! Nice to know that during a time of rampant inflation, while war is fought in 2 theatres, our men and women in uniform get A LOWER PAY INCREASE THAN WELFARE RECIPIENTS!!!
Just so we're clear, you're not complaining Obama isn't doing anything for their pay increases, it's only that he's not increasing it to the level of your liking?
At least you admit he's doing something. You just choose to look at everything as glass half empty until the party in power is yours.
The way I see it, if we're all a bit unhappy, then the equilibrium is preserved.
Stay unhappy. |
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American Credit
964 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2010 : 07:29:39 AM
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| I think he's keeping things pretty consistent, take from the people that earn/deserve and give to those who don't. |
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Agent_Mike
1592 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2010 : 10:55:06 AM
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Originally posted by American Credit Repair
I think he's keeping things pretty consistent, take from the people that earn/deserve and give to those who don't.
When your values start operating based sliding scale measurements and subjective terms, you can go pretty far down the rabbit hole. |
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velecico
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Posted - 03/05/2010 : 11:03:43 AM
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Originally posted by American Credit Repair
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Originally posted by homebroker@sbcglobal.net
No surprise, personally welfare should be stopped immediately for all, we cannot afford it right now.
Or require everyone receiving assistance to pass random drug tests.
How about if you receiving assistance because you are a drug addict LOL |
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craigppls
2477 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2010 : 11:23:49 AM
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Originally posted by American Credit Repair
Numbnut? You really don't think our active troops should have a higher pay increase than people on welfare? I think our troops deserve much better than we're giving them. Think the should have gotten paid more under Bush too. However, when money is being tossed around like its nothing (as it is now), why would you choose to skimp on the men and women protecting us?
also what job pays for your housing and food...
again while not great pay...many going into the military couldnt get a job at a McD's... |
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American Credit
964 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2010 : 11:43:52 AM
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| So do you want to go get shot at and blown up and put your life on the line for "numbnuts" who say that you don't deserve raises? I think they deserve everything they get and should get much more than they do. It seems that you think the military is a place for underachievers to go, judging by your comment about them not being able to get a job at McD's. I've never been in the military but I have an immense amount of respect for the people that fight and die for us. Maybe you should give them a little credit. |
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frank drigotas j
5613 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2010 : 12:37:49 PM
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Hell, social security recipients, after paying into the system all their working lives, received a zero increase.
Quit your bellyaching.
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American Credit
964 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2010 : 1:30:17 PM
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| Increase? My generation will never even see a dime of social security anyway. |
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cgrey
66 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2010 : 1:51:01 PM
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| How much of an increase are welfare recipients receiving? |
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American Credit
964 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2010 : 1:54:43 PM
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In his first two years in office, President Barack Obama will increase annual federal welfare spending by one-third from $522 billion to $697 billion. The combined two-year increase will equal almost $263 billion ($88.2 billion in FY 2009 plus $174.6 billion in FY 2010). After adjusting for inflation, this increase is two and a half times greater than any previous increase in federal welfare spending in U.S. history. As a share of the economy, annual federal welfare spending will rise by roughly 1.2 percent of GDP.
Under President Obama, government will spend more on welfare in a single year than President George W. Bush spent on the war in Iraq during his entire presidency. According to the Congressional Research Service, the cost of the Iraq war through the end of the Bush Administration was around $622 billion. By contrast, annual federal and state means-tested welfare spending will reach $888 billion in FY 2010. Federal welfare spending alone will equal $697 billion in that year.
While campaigning for the presidency, Obama lamented that "the war in Iraq is costing each household about $100 per month." Applying the same standard to means-tested welfare spending reveals that welfare will cost each household $560 per month in 2009 and $638 per month in 2010.
Most of Obama's increases in welfare spending are permanent expansions of the welfare state, not temporary increases in response to the current recession. According to the long-term spending plans set forth in Obama's FY 2010 budget, combined federal and state spending will not drop significantly after the recession ends. In fact, by 2014, welfare spending is likely to equal $1 trillion per year.
According to President Obama's budget projections, federal and state welfare spending will total $10.3 trillion over the next 10 years (FY 2009 to FY 2018). This spending will equal $250,000 for each person currently living in poverty in the U.S., or $1 million for a poor family of four.
Over the next decade, federal spending will equal $7.5 trillion, while state spending will reach $2.8 trillion. These figures do not include any of the increases in health care expenditure currently being debated in Congress.
In the years ahead, average annual welfare spending will be roughly twice the spending levels under President Bill Clinton after adjusting for inflation. Total means-tested spending is likely to average roughly 6 percent of GDP for the next decade.
Robert Rector is Senior Research Fellow in the Domestic Policy Studies Department at The Heritage Foundation. Katherine Bradley is Visiting Fellow and Rachel Sheffield is Visiting Fellow in Welfare Studies in the Richard and Helen DeVos Center for Religion and Civil Society at The Heritage Foundation. |
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homebroker@sbcgl
9092 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2010 : 1:55:24 PM
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That will cut out at least 90% of them!
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Originally posted by American Credit Repair
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Originally posted by homebroker@sbcglobal.net
No surprise, personally welfare should be stopped immediately for all, we cannot afford it right now.
Or require everyone receiving assistance to pass random drug tests.
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benjamin
8244 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2010 : 2:26:30 PM
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Bring the troops home, let the corporations pay mercenaries.
Many enlisted in order to get a college education,but were handed a rifle and a good luck wish.
oining in order to get a college education, |
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