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MoneyLenderP

1974 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  6:52:46 PM
Anything major change? MIP still 1.5%? Any help would be appreciated.


peter

6465 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  6:56:09 PM

No major changes. UFMIP is still 1.75 and MI is still 0.55
for FHA.

Only big major change is the HVCC whereby for conventional loans,
we must use the lender's appraisal management company instead
of our own appraiser.

Peter
MoneyLenderP

1974 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  7:04:30 PM
what if your a correspondent lender?
Mandyvilla

6395 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2009 :  05:54:34 AM
Correspondent lenders still can't control who receives the appraisal, but they get to set up or pick their AMC.

Biz is worse than it was 5 months ago - at least in my neck of the woods. You may get a lot of deals on paper, but getting them to the table is a new obstacle course, especially when dealing w/ short sales or borderline applicants.
1stintegritymort

1786 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2009 :  06:01:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyLenderP

Anything major change? MIP still 1.5%? Any help would be appreciated.






Not to mention you won't be able to do streamlines without appraisal in a few weeks. All closing costs must be POC by the borrower or credit by broker/lender. Even now, most lenders require an appraisal for IRRL's with a 660 credit score. They are making it harder and harder to qualify each month that passes. What you could have closed about 5 months ago, most likely won't get through anymore as guidelines continue to tighten. Soon, all FHA loans will require a 620 score and lenders can place tighter restrictions by raising their own score requirements. In the very near future, DU will refer all loans with DTI's over 45%, where now you can get by at 50% and above. It is only going to get harder. Just imagine how hard it is now with rates this low and how much harder it will be when rates go up.
the_mortgage_guy

2628 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2009 :  07:18:26 AM
Money...what's up man?! Hey, we are hiring again!! Shoot me an email.
SHABONE

517 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2009 :  08:41:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by the_mortgage_guy

Money...what's up man?! Hey, we are hiring again!! Shoot me an email.




That's either good or really bad.
waynepbright

3934 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2009 :  6:20:17 PM


WHY'D YOU LEAVE THE BUSINESS ??
MoneyLenderP

1974 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2009 :  7:08:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by waynepbright



WHY'D YOU LEAVE THE BUSINESS ??




just took some time off...had a great first half of the year.


If rates rise it would lead to lenders loosening there guidelines a bit.
peter

6465 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2009 :  10:34:31 PM

Mandy wrote:

"Biz is worse than it was 5 months ago - at least in my neck of the woods. You may get a lot of deals on paper, but getting them to the table is a new obstacle course, especially when dealing w/ short sales or borderline applicants."

It's also getting worse in Los Angeles too. Too many people
wanting loans and their applications are useless as they either
lack one thing or two. Realtors who shun FHA are dying and realtors
who accept FHA are not necessarily living as multiple offer situations
abound while bank negotiators are still working at snail's pace.

It's gonna get worse and with the rising double digit employment,
soon aggravated by the collapse of commercial property market and
small/medium bank failures (United Commercial Bank in San Francisco
was last week's casualty and many more to come due to the comatose
commercial property market).

Be prepared to suffer.

Peter
the_mortgage_guy

2628 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  04:15:31 AM
quote:
Originally posted by SHABONE

quote:
Originally posted by the_mortgage_guy

Money...what's up man?! Hey, we are hiring again!! Shoot me an email.




That's either good or really bad.



Yea, that would be good because we funded 6 billion so...
MoneyLenderP

1974 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  7:26:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by peter


Mandy wrote:

"Biz is worse than it was 5 months ago - at least in my neck of the woods. You may get a lot of deals on paper, but getting them to the table is a new obstacle course, especially when dealing w/ short sales or borderline applicants."

It's also getting worse in Los Angeles too. Too many people
wanting loans and their applications are useless as they either
lack one thing or two. Realtors who shun FHA are dying and realtors
who accept FHA are not necessarily living as multiple offer situations
abound while bank negotiators are still working at snail's pace.

It's gonna get worse and with the rising double digit employment,
soon aggravated by the collapse of commercial property market and
small/medium bank failures (United Commercial Bank in San Francisco
was last week's casualty and many more to come due to the comatose
commercial property market).

Be prepared to suffer.

Peter





if you have an owner that is spending money on advertising things are usually ok. I have never worked anywhere that didnt make the phone ring. If your relying on a referral base, realtors, cpa's etc then I can understand the slow down.
peter

6465 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2009 :  10:21:27 AM

MoneylenderP wrote:

"if you have an owner that is spending money on advertising things are usually ok. I have never worked anywhere that didnt make the phone ring. If your relying on a referral base, realtors, cpa's etc then I can understand the slow down."

Advertising doesn't help much these days, at least in my area of
Los Angeles, because most homeowners have lost their equity or
have incurred high debts that their DTIs have made them unqualified.
We have ads on and flyers out all the time, and almost daily we have
customers coming in to consult us. About 90% of new customers are
people who are upsidedown, their spouses have lost jobs, or have
incurred debts beyond 60% DTI. It is very sad to see them
disappointed but we don't want to waste our time either.

This is like harvesting in a corn field full of locusts.
The field is full of infested corn husks and no matter how hard
a farm hand is trying to do his best, there isn't enough yield to
sustain the livelihood of himself and his family. And the corn field
is getting more and more locusts as years go by. 2010 will be
another year of disappointing harvests, but many farm hands have
no better place to go but to keep on looking for the fewer and fewer
areas in the field where truly edible corns can still be harvested
for a day's meal.

Peter
eh6794

1036 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2009 :  10:32:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by peter


Mandy wrote:

"Biz is worse than it was 5 months ago - at least in my neck of the woods. You may get a lot of deals on paper, but getting them to the table is a new obstacle course, especially when dealing w/ short sales or borderline applicants."

It's also getting worse in Los Angeles too. Too many people
wanting loans and their applications are useless as they either
lack one thing or two. Realtors who shun FHA are dying and realtors
who accept FHA are not necessarily living as multiple offer situations
abound while bank negotiators are still working at snail's pace.

It's gonna get worse and with the rising double digit employment,
soon aggravated by the collapse of commercial property market and
small/medium bank failures (United Commercial Bank in San Francisco
was last week's casualty and many more to come due to the comatose
commercial property market).

Be prepared to suffer.

Peter


Question, when are all these foreclosures going to finally hit? I have ZERO problem finding good solid qualified buyers here in SoCal, but getting them into a contract is a nightmare.
Appalachian

85 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2009 :  10:38:31 AM
quote:

if you have an owner that is spending money on advertising things are usually ok. I have never worked anywhere that didnt make the phone ring. If your relying on a referral base, realtors, cpa's etc then I can understand the slow down.



I agree here. Our shop advertises very well and is well known within the local community (Large community of Charlotte, NC and surrounding areas). Our phone continues to ring and while I have had a couple months where I closed next to nothing, I have 11 loans in the pipeline now with an average of $4,000 in fees per loan.

I wish it was more consistent and not so much up and down but that's the nature of the business.
GetLoans4me

2697 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2009 :  10:40:15 AM
Peter, we already suffer harsh for months now. Retail stores are to closed up more stores this coming Jan 2010. I spoke with many business owners and they are taking it hard too, that is, they're not getting paid!




quote:
Originally posted by peter


Mandy wrote:

"Biz is worse than it was 5 months ago - at least in my neck of the woods. You may get a lot of deals on paper, but getting them to the table is a new obstacle course, especially when dealing w/ short sales or borderline applicants."

It's also getting worse in Los Angeles too. Too many people
wanting loans and their applications are useless as they either
lack one thing or two. Realtors who shun FHA are dying and realtors
who accept FHA are not necessarily living as multiple offer situations
abound while bank negotiators are still working at snail's pace.

It's gonna get worse and with the rising double digit employment,
soon aggravated by the collapse of commercial property market and
small/medium bank failures (United Commercial Bank in San Francisco
was last week's casualty and many more to come due to the comatose
commercial property market).

Be prepared to suffer.

Peter

peter

6465 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2009 :  12:21:31 PM

eh6794 wrote:

"Question, when are all these foreclosures going to finally hit? I have ZERO problem finding good solid qualified buyers here in SoCal, but getting them into a contract is a nightmare."

I also have 4 well qualified buyers who have been outbidded in multiple-officer
situations and I have been waiting for my realtors to close deals as their
files are getting stale. Many qualified buyers only want a few good propeties
that result in having as many as 20 offers per house and all my four customers
have so far been outbidded.

I have 9 borrowers in the pipeline now, but they are not new faces. They are
past clients and referrals mainly refinancing into 4.7%% 30 year fixed from
6.00% plus but they are not easy files and need to pay off some debts to qualify.
Gone are the days when you get perfect borrowers whose files you can close in
2-3 weeks.

However, I got 2 files that are near perfect. I got them approved with B of
A with no condition, but LandSafe (AMC) appraisal turnround time is now
16 days. So, gone are the days that I could close near perfect files within
3 weeks.

Talking about the collapse of the commercial property market, and Los Angeles
is being hit so hard now. Whereever you go, you find "For Lease" signs
everywhere especially among strip malls and office buildings. California
National Bank went bust and was rescued by FDIC who brought in U.S. Bank to buy.
Also, United Commercial Bank in San Francisco became another victim last week
and FDIC arranged for another bigger bank to take over. There will be many
more banks in California that will fail and bank employees will be laid off
as usual. Unemployment in 2010 will likely hit 12% nationally and for
California it could hit 15% or higher, excluding the underemployed, the
discouraged unemployed, and the unemployable.

One consolation in the land of sunshine and fine wine is that the State
of California has set aside a large parking lot in Laguna Beach for the
"residentially displaced: (nicer term than the homeless) and put them in
tents. The parking lot is next to the ocean where one can surf and swim,
plus the beautiful views of the hills nearby. Non-profit organizations do
provide foods. Wondering if there are ex-California loan originators
among the lucky corow!

Peter
eh6794

1036 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2009 :  12:28:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by peter


eh6794 wrote:

"Question, when are all these foreclosures going to finally hit? I have ZERO problem finding good solid qualified buyers here in SoCal, but getting them into a contract is a nightmare."

I also have 4 well qualified buyers who have been outbidded in multiple-officer
situations and I have been waiting for my realtors to close deals as their
files are getting stale. Many qualified buyers only want a few good propeties
that result in having as many as 20 offers per house and all my four customers
have so far been outbidded.

I have 9 borrowers in the pipeline now, but they are not new faces. They are
past clients and referrals mainly refinancing into 4.7%% 30 year fixed from
6.00% plus but they are not easy files and need to pay off some debts to qualify.
Gone are the days when you get perfect borrowers whose files you can close in
2-3 weeks.

However, I got 2 files that are near perfect. I got them approved with B of
A with no condition, but LandSafe (AMC) appraisal turnround time is now
16 days. So, gone are the days that I could close near perfect files within
3 weeks.

Talking about the collapse of the commercial property market, and Los Angeles
is being hit so hard now. Whereever you go, you find "For Lease" signs
everywhere especially among strip malls and office buildings. California
National Bank went bust and was rescued by FDIC who brought in U.S. Bank to buy.
Also, United Commercial Bank in San Francisco became another victim last week
and FDIC arranged for another bigger bank to take over. There will be many
more banks in California that will fail and bank employees will be laid off
as usual. Unemployment in 2010 will likely hit 12% nationally and for
California it could hit 15% or higher, excluding the underemployed, the
discouraged unemployed, and the unemployable.

One consolation in the land of sunshine and fine wine is that the State
of California has set aside a large parking lot in Laguna Beach for the
"residentially displaced: (nicer term than the homeless) and put them in
tents. The parking lot is next to the ocean where one can surf and swim,
plus the beautiful views of the hills nearby. Non-profit organizations do
provide foods. Wondering if there are ex-California loan originators
among the lucky corow!

Peter

peter i feel your pain.... ive had files sit on my desk for over 12 months before i put them in escrow
MoneyLenderP

1974 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2009 :  9:54:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by peter


MoneylenderP wrote:

"if you have an owner that is spending money on advertising things are usually ok. I have never worked anywhere that didnt make the phone ring. If your relying on a referral base, realtors, cpa's etc then I can understand the slow down."

Advertising doesn't help much these days, at least in my area of
Los Angeles, because most homeowners have lost their equity or
have incurred high debts that their DTIs have made them unqualified.
We have ads on and flyers out all the time, and almost daily we have
customers coming in to consult us. About 90% of new customers are
people who are upsidedown, their spouses have lost jobs, or have
incurred debts beyond 60% DTI. It is very sad to see them
disappointed but we don't want to waste our time either.

This is like harvesting in a corn field full of locusts.
The field is full of infested corn husks and no matter how hard
a farm hand is trying to do his best, there isn't enough yield to
sustain the livelihood of himself and his family. And the corn field
is getting more and more locusts as years go by. 2010 will be
another year of disappointing harvests, but many farm hands have
no better place to go but to keep on looking for the fewer and fewer
areas in the field where truly edible corns can still be harvested
for a day's meal.

Peter




Peter- are you just focusing locally? Thats not my nature.Nationally licensing, good marketing are all you need. I could never remain just local. I just signed on board with a company licensed in 48. They are providing 15-30 lending tree/lmb leads per day...I will be beyond busy...its all a numbers game. I spoke with a bunch of people there...they are closing 6-12 units per month each..you have the few slackers that are more interested in there fantasy league that are doing there 1-3 per month.
dtabar

1149 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2009 :  10:32:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyLenderP

quote:
Originally posted by peter


MoneylenderP wrote:

"if you have an owner that is spending money on advertising things are usually ok. I have never worked anywhere that didnt make the phone ring. If your relying on a referral base, realtors, cpa's etc then I can understand the slow down."

Advertising doesn't help much these days, at least in my area of
Los Angeles, because most homeowners have lost their equity or
have incurred high debts that their DTIs have made them unqualified.
We have ads on and flyers out all the time, and almost daily we have
customers coming in to consult us. About 90% of new customers are
people who are upsidedown, their spouses have lost jobs, or have
incurred debts beyond 60% DTI. It is very sad to see them
disappointed but we don't want to waste our time either.

This is like harvesting in a corn field full of locusts.
The field is full of infested corn husks and no matter how hard
a farm hand is trying to do his best, there isn't enough yield to
sustain the livelihood of himself and his family. And the corn field
is getting more and more locusts as years go by. 2010 will be
another year of disappointing harvests, but many farm hands have
no better place to go but to keep on looking for the fewer and fewer
areas in the field where truly edible corns can still be harvested
for a day's meal.

Peter




Peter- are you just focusing locally? Thats not my nature.Nationally licensing, good marketing are all you need. I could never remain just local. I just signed on board with a company licensed in 48. They are providing 15-30 lending tree/lmb leads per day...I will be beyond busy...its all a numbers game. I spoke with a bunch of people there...they are closing 6-12 units per month each..you have the few slackers that are more interested in there fantasy league that are doing there 1-3 per month.



It's a give and take. Since you're provided leads, you're pay compensation is probably lower than someone who generates their own leads.

If someone is generating locally here in CA and is closing 1-3 loans a month, they should be able to create a decent income.
MoneyLenderP

1974 Posts

Posted - 11/18/2009 :  2:27:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dtabar

quote:
Originally posted by MoneyLenderP

quote:
Originally posted by peter


MoneylenderP wrote:

"if you have an owner that is spending money on advertising things are usually ok. I have never worked anywhere that didnt make the phone ring. If your relying on a referral base, realtors, cpa's etc then I can understand the slow down."

Advertising doesn't help much these days, at least in my area of
Los Angeles, because most homeowners have lost their equity or
have incurred high debts that their DTIs have made them unqualified.
We have ads on and flyers out all the time, and almost daily we have
customers coming in to consult us. About 90% of new customers are
people who are upsidedown, their spouses have lost jobs, or have
incurred debts beyond 60% DTI. It is very sad to see them
disappointed but we don't want to waste our time either.

This is like harvesting in a corn field full of locusts.
The field is full of infested corn husks and no matter how hard
a farm hand is trying to do his best, there isn't enough yield to
sustain the livelihood of himself and his family. And the corn field
is getting more and more locusts as years go by. 2010 will be
another year of disappointing harvests, but many farm hands have
no better place to go but to keep on looking for the fewer and fewer
areas in the field where truly edible corns can still be harvested
for a day's meal.

Peter




Peter- are you just focusing locally? Thats not my nature.Nationally licensing, good marketing are all you need. I could never remain just local. I just signed on board with a company licensed in 48. They are providing 15-30 lending tree/lmb leads per day...I will be beyond busy...its all a numbers game. I spoke with a bunch of people there...they are closing 6-12 units per month each..you have the few slackers that are more interested in there fantasy league that are doing there 1-3 per month.



It's a give and take. Since you're provided leads, you're pay compensation is probably lower than someone who generates their own leads.

If someone is generating locally here in CA and is closing 1-3 loans a month, they should be able to create a decent income.




Very true. I am at 45% tiered as high as 55%
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