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benjamin

6964 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  08:36:29 AM
We had about 520,000 per week laid off, 4.33 weeks per month, equals a little over 2,250,000 people put out of work. The official numbers show that 190,000 jobs were lost last month. Even though I went to public schools, by mathematical deduction, about 2,000,000 jobs were created.


This is supported by those receiving long term unemployment stats .
rudeness

5392 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  08:40:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by benjamin

We had about 520,000 per week laid off, 4.33 weeks per month, equals a little over 2,250,000 people put out of work. The official numbers show that 190,000 jobs were lost last month. Even though I went to public schools, by mathematical deduction, about 2,000,000 jobs were created.


This is supported by those receiving long term unemployment stats .

You need to get off the reservation more often and learn the new math!
Gabriels

337 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  10:12:50 AM
Dont be hard on him Rude, wampum is hard to count. lol
GWaldkirch

177 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  10:48:38 AM
With all due respect to everyone, slants on Indians is not appropriate
craigppls

2115 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  11:12:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by benjamin

We had about 520,000 per week laid off, 4.33 weeks per month, equals a little over 2,250,000 people put out of work. The official numbers show that 190,000 jobs were lost last month. Even though I went to public schools, by mathematical deduction, about 2,000,000 jobs were created.


This is supported by those receiving long term unemployment stats .



There is a reason the numbers are different...I would explain it to you but it wouldnt really matter cause I doubt you care why.
Gabriels

337 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  11:31:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by craigppls

quote:
Originally posted by benjamin

We had about 520,000 per week laid off, 4.33 weeks per month, equals a little over 2,250,000 people put out of work. The official numbers show that 190,000 jobs were lost last month. Even though I went to public schools, by mathematical deduction, about 2,000,000 jobs were created.


This is supported by those receiving long term unemployment stats .



There is a reason the numbers are different...I would explain it to you but it wouldnt really matter cause I doubt you care why.

Then why bother to post at all dumbazz. Did it make you feel superior?
rudeness

5392 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  12:01:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by craigppls

quote:
Originally posted by benjamin

We had about 520,000 per week laid off, 4.33 weeks per month, equals a little over 2,250,000 people put out of work. The official numbers show that 190,000 jobs were lost last month. Even though I went to public schools, by mathematical deduction, about 2,000,000 jobs were created.


This is supported by those receiving long term unemployment stats .



There is a reason the numbers are different...I would explain it to you but it wouldnt really matter cause I doubt you care why.

Hahahahaha... Like you would understand what you were trying to explain anyways. If you did it would be a first, but you would still be wrong!
rudeness

5392 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  12:03:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by GWaldkirch

With all due respect to everyone, slants on Indians is not appropriate

Slants? You must be confused. The chinks are the ones with slants... Indians have red skin and like firewater!
GetLoans4me

2685 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  12:28:46 PM
2 million jobs created?

Oh you mean in CHINA.. right.. right
Rick_Santelli

264 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  2:00:57 PM
Something I found odd was a link posted earlier in the week that if someone gets a pay raise, that the Obama Administration considers that a "Job Created" in official numbers.


Talk about fuzzy math.....
craigppls

2115 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  2:14:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rick_Santelli

Something I found odd was a link posted earlier in the week that if someone gets a pay raise, that the Obama Administration considers that a "Job Created" in official numbers.


Talk about fuzzy math.....



The way the government figures the employment numbers are they same as they were under bush...so I doubt your link is correct.
benjamin

6964 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  2:16:22 PM
I am glad that some responded. Please explain the math , if possible.

In the last 12 months, aprox. 26 million Americans have been laid off. Yet , per the Govt., only 4 million jobs have been lost.

Anyone care to explain the difference?
craigppls

2115 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  2:21:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by benjamin

I am glad that some responded. Please explain the math , if possible.

In the last 12 months, aprox. 26 million Americans have been laid off. Yet , per the Govt., only 4 million jobs have been lost.

Anyone care to explain the difference?



Here is a thought...laid off...doesnt mean job permanently gone.

Take an auto worker for example...Laid off...several weeks later re-hired...laid off...re-hired...

There are several industries that do this on a regular basis...
rudeness

5392 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  2:23:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by benjamin

I am glad that some responded. Please explain the math , if possible.

In the last 12 months, aprox. 26 million Americans have been laid off. Yet , per the Govt., only 4 million jobs have been lost.

Anyone care to explain the difference?

I know for one, they stop counting the unemployed when they run out of benefits. I guess if they're not giving you a check, you're really not unemployed. I just heard earlier that the REAL unemployment rate is almost 20% when you count EVERYONE that has lost their job, not just those getting a check.
benjamin

6964 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  2:28:48 PM
Thanks Rude, I know you understand.

Craig, do some research, thanks for posting.
Rick_Santelli

264 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  3:02:58 PM
Link to article:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ap_on_bi_ge/us_stimulus_jobs
SirThomas

289 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  3:11:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by benjamin

I am glad that some responded. Please explain the math , if possible.

In the last 12 months, aprox. 26 million Americans have been laid off. Yet , per the Govt., only 4 million jobs have been lost.

Anyone care to explain the difference?



"Jobs lost" are considered lost when they are no longer available ie. companies shut down etc

Being laid off is a different animal and as Rude mentioned, unemployment only counts as
unemployment when you colect "unemployment benefits" and "actively" seek re-employment...

If, for example, you decide to go back to school to get a new, better or even your own job back,
you're no longer classified as unemployed... It's all big joke and I am totally sure
we have over 20% unemployment rate and the ones that ARE employed are in debt beyond
recovery... welcome to the new world!
benjamin

6964 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  3:32:37 PM
Sir T, Thanks.
benjamin

6964 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  3:38:24 PM
Why isn't Brobama and clowns saying they are generating millions of jobs?
Oracles

450 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  5:01:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by benjamin

Why isn't Brobama and clowns saying they are generating millions of jobs?



Because they know you can only fool the public so much and now they are onto you.

20%+ unemployed and out of rest of the 80% atleast 60% arent doing well either
homebroker@sbcgl

7349 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  6:05:17 PM
If 20% is a accurate figure, we are close to Great Depression numbers.

quote:
Originally posted by Oracles

quote:
Originally posted by benjamin

Why isn't Brobama and clowns saying they are generating millions of jobs?



Because they know you can only fool the public so much and now they are onto you.

20%+ unemployed and out of rest of the 80% atleast 60% arent doing well either

SirThomas

289 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  6:25:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by homebroker@sbcglobal.net

If 20% is a accurate figure, we are close to Great Depression numbers.

quote:
Originally posted by Oracles

quote:
Originally posted by benjamin

Why isn't Brobama and clowns saying they are generating millions of jobs?



Because they know you can only fool the public so much and now they are onto you.

20%+ unemployed and out of rest of the 80% atleast 60% arent doing well either





But during depression people didn't have credit card debt... and 40-50% tax rate
(local and federal off course)

Thomas
benjamin

6964 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  8:43:39 PM
It's not very pretty in blue collar world.
rudeness

5392 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2009 :  08:23:20 AM
quote:
Originally posted by benjamin

Thanks Rude, I know you understand.

Craig, do some research, thanks for posting.

I usually understand, but not always... especially when Cspite shows up and starts blathering!
Oracles

450 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2009 :  9:00:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SirThomas

But during depression people didn't have credit card debt... and 40-50% tax rate
(local and federal off course)

Thomas



Its not going to get any better if we keep printing money like we have been.
All this bail out money and nothing to show for. Besides empty headlines of how
things are getting better
benjamin

6964 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  2:13:22 PM
Craig,please humor me, I want to understand.
homebroker@sbcgl

7349 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  2:21:38 PM
In other words we are much worse off now than during the great depression, or will be soon when reality finally kicks in?

quote:
Originally posted by SirThomas

[quote]Originally posted by homebroker@sbcglobal.net

If 20% is a accurate figure, we are close to Great Depression numbers.


But during depression people didn't have credit card debt... and 40-50% tax rate
(local and federal off course)

Thomas

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