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CoolMtgGuy

9053 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  06:58:06 AM
Food for thought ... for intellectually hungry minds at least.
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By Linda J. Bilmes and Rosemarie Day

MUCH OF the health care debate is focused on whether the country can afford the $850 billion the Congressional Budget Office estimates it will cost. The debate centers on whether the bundle of new taxes, credits, efficiencies, and Medicare spending cuts will be sufficient to offset the new spending so as to deliver health care reform without, in President Obama’s words, “adding a dime to the federal deficit.’’

This debate misses the point. It assumes that doing nothing will cost nothing. It turns out that not expanding health insurance is a pretty costly option, because uninsured people impose big financial and economic costs that are not properly appreciated.

The key question is: what difference does it make if you have health insurance? Several major medical studies have determined that people with health insurance have lower death rates compared to the uninsured, fewer medical ailments, and better all-around health. This means more individuals contribute to the economy for longer. Not having health insurance means these economic benefits are lost.

A number of studies confirm the significance of this impact. For example, a landmark study by the Institute of Medicine estimated that 18,314 Americans between 25 and 64 die each year because of a lack of health insurance. These deaths are largely because of failures to diagnose illness and to limited access to good quality care. However, that study was based on data from 1993. A new study, to be published in the December issue of the American Journal of Public Health, puts the number of deaths among Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 associated with lack of health insurance at 44,789 a year.

The premature death of thousands of Americans can be translated into monetary terms using the economic “value of a statistical life.’’ Government economists use this methodology to help determine whether the cost of new government regulation (stricter pollution controls, for example, or food safety rules) is worth the value of lives saved. Insurance companies also use this approach to help estimate compensation levels for wrongful death. These estimates vary widely, from around $3 million to $12 million.

US government agencies typically use a figure around $7 million to represent the lost economic output from each death. If we conservatively use only half of the government figure, or $3.5 million, it suggests that the annual cost to the US economy of 40,000 deaths is about $140 billion. That adds up to a cost of more than a trillion dollars over a 10-year period - even taking future inflation into account - well above the cost of enacting a health care package.

A second way to estimate the cost of not enacting health care legislation is in terms of life expectancy. US life expectancy - at 78.11 years, ranks around 40th in the world and well below countries with universal health care. If we were to match Canadian life expectancy, for example, that would translate into an extra two years and 1 month of life expectancy for every American.


Economists use another measure for the value of an additional year of life, adjusted for the quality of life. A recent study by Stanford economists has demonstrated that the average economic value of a year of human life is about $129,000. Most insurance companies, and many countries around the world, already use a variant of this concept. They implicitly ascribe the value of an additional year of human life at $50,000 by setting that as the threshold for approving treatments. (Any treatment that costs $50,000 will be reimbursed if it is predicted to add another year of life for the patient).

In Massachusetts, we were able to cut the number of uninsured adults between the ages of 19 and 64 by more than half during the past three years. If the United States as a whole were able to replicate that success, we would insure at least 15 million more Americans. Raising the US life expectancy to match Canada just for these individuals would translate into $150 billion in economic value over three years.

Less health insurance equates to more premature deaths, and shorter life expectancy. It also impairs the quality of life - and hence the productivity - of those who are living. This is evident in comparing the health of Americans who live in states with high levels of insurance with those who do not. We compared the five US states with the highest levels of health insurance among adults age 18 to 64 (Massachusetts, Hawaii, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and the District of Columbia) with the five states with the lowest levels (Texas, New Mexico, Louisiana, Florida, and California).

In the first group, 90 percent of those 18 to 64 are insured. In the second group the figure is just 73 percent. People living in states with the highest insurance levels have better health indicators, including fewer low birth weight babies, lower infant mortality, and lower death rates from diabetes, heart disease, strokes, Alzheimer’s, and some types of cancer (cervical, colorectal). While expanding health insurance is just one component of a state’s approach to improving health, the data are striking. Moreover, the annual death rate for residents of the states with higher insured populations was lower than for those living in the lowest insurance states. It is tricky to put a precise number on the economic loss from poorer life quality, but we can be sure the economic loss is substantial.

All the different health care bills being discussed in Congress would result in a significant increase in the number of Americans with health insurance. In Massachusetts, the combination of mandatory health insurance for individuals (with penalties for noncompliance and subsidies for those who can’t afford it), requirements for businesses to contribute to health insurance, and a health insurance exchange that helps people find insurance - core characteristics of all the proposed bills - has more than halved the number of residents without health insurance. Any serious health reform bill should be able to do the same.

Without health care reform, the economic cost imposed by premature deaths and avoidable illnesses will continue to grow, to the detriment of the economy. As it enters the final debate on health care reform, Congress needs to weigh carefully the substantial cost of doing nothing.

Linda Bilmes is a faculty member at the Harvard Kennedy School, where she teaches public finance. Rosemarie Day is deputy director of the Commonwealth Health Insurance Connector Authority of Massachusetts.
rudeness

5392 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  07:20:14 AM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha... are you serious? The Boston Globe and the MA. healthcare system are the absolute last two places we should be looking for healthcare advice. The poster child for how to bankrupt a healthcare system by providing less coverage, while bankrupting state government to keep it afloat, is not one that any intelligent person would endorse.
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darkstar

26247 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  07:36:41 AM
>>>> has more than halved the number of residents without health insurance.

And almost doubled the premiums.....


From boston.com

Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country, according to a new analysis that highlights the state’s challenge in trying to rein in medical costs after passage of a landmark 2006 law that mandated coverage for nearly everyone.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/articles/2009/08/22/bay_state_health_insurance_premiums_highest_in_country/
VVance

6586 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  07:40:14 AM
From Drudge:

PELOSI: Buy a $15,000 Policy or Go to Jail;
Failure to Comply, 5 Years in Prison...


http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=153583
djorge44

3699 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  07:55:12 AM
And it is not 850 billion anymore, it is 3 TRILLION. Wonder what it will really cost in 10 years, probably closer to 10 trillion.
MarkIFC

928 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  08:04:16 AM
B.S.

My brother broke his neck while drunk one night and got the best care in the world even though he has no job and no health insurance. In fact, I had to ask the nurses why he was in an over-sized private room instead of some basement ward room. I was told that each room is assigned a cost code. People with health insurance must be put into the cheapest rooms possible. That only left this large private room unoccupied.
Then they moved him to an extended care facility. Once again he was in a private room for 4 months. NO COST.

Recently, he had infected teeth. He went to a clinic where they extracted his teeth and provided dentures. ONCE AGAIN, NO INSURANCE, NO JOB.

Anyone without insurance can go to the local ER anytime day or night and get care.
It's the people WITH insurance that hold out on going to a doctor because they don't want to pay a deductable.
MarkIFC

928 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  08:05:56 AM
Oh, and by the way, where do all of these people get the idea that this OBama Care health coverage is going to be free?

It's not going to be free --- it's going to cost EVERYONE much much more.
rudeness

5392 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  08:39:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MarkIFC

Oh, and by the way, where do all of these people get the idea that this OBama Care health coverage is going to be free?

It's not going to be free --- it's going to cost EVERYONE much much more.

It's not going to cost EVERYONE much much more. Only those of us in business or that make a decent living and pay our own way. The freeloaders and deadbeats still won't be paying for anything due to the tax credits for OZbama supporters the poor and stupid!
assassin17

7830 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  08:50:05 AM
It's a rotten plan. So is the GOP plan.

This is all turning out just horribly.
djorge44

3699 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  10:44:48 AM
of course it is a horrible plan. People think these politicians are intelligent, the majority have never run anything in their lives. Why would anyone think Pelosi or Reid or 99% of Dems or Republicans could actually create something that works.
craigppls

2115 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  11:16:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by djorge44

of course it is a horrible plan. People think these politicians are intelligent, the majority have never run anything in their lives. Why would anyone think Pelosi or Reid or 99% of Dems or Republicans could actually create something that works.




I will give you what I think is the main reason. All the anti-reform people just scream, call, email, fax...so all the members of congress come away thinking MOST americans are against this. Then add all the lobbists into this and poof...

All anyone gets is crap...
CoolMtgGuy

9053 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  2:12:43 PM
The politicians know the truth about what the masses want. They also know the truth that their jobs depend on satisfying the noisy ones and not necessarily the masses. It is all about job retention for the politicians ... both sides. The winner will be the side that is able to manipulate the legislative process more effectively.


quote:
Originally posted by craigppls

quote:
Originally posted by djorge44

of course it is a horrible plan. People think these politicians are intelligent, the majority have never run anything in their lives. Why would anyone think Pelosi or Reid or 99% of Dems or Republicans could actually create something that works.




I will give you what I think is the main reason. All the anti-reform people just scream, call, email, fax...so all the members of congress come away thinking MOST americans are against this. Then add all the lobbists into this and poof...

All anyone gets is crap...

KHufford

10407 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  3:49:46 PM
Great article Thanks for posting..
khoiey

2965 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  8:27:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by KHufford

Great article Thanks for posting..




I'm for healthcare reform... But Kyle, do you really support the House's version? Why?
homebroker@sbcgl

7349 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  9:04:04 PM
See that is scary and not right, forced healthcare. Who do these people think they are?

quote:
Originally posted by VVance

From Drudge:

PELOSI: Buy a $15,000 Policy or Go to Jail;
Failure to Comply, 5 Years in Prison...


http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=153583

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