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CoolMtgGuy
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 Posted - 11/07/2009 : 06:42:14 AM
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I think that he will be apologizing to Limbaugh soon ...
Is this another sign of confusion and disagreement in the Republican party? Limbaugh and many of you want the party purged and shrun not become more inclusive and grow.
Like the age-old rhetoric from the Republicans [small government, less spending, etc.], this call for the party to be more "inclusive" is nothing more than hot air.
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GOP leaders have been loathe to criticize Rush Limbaugh -- but House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) is taking issue with Limbaugh's claim that President Obama's push for health care was comparable to Hitler's stranglehold on Germany.
Cantor, the highest-ranking Jewish Republican elected official in the country, told Bloomberg News that his party needs to be more inclusive to regain power.
“The Republican Party in its roots is a party of inclusion and we ought to be promoting that and making sure that voices are heard,” Cantor, of Virginia, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt,” airing today.
Cantor praised Limbaugh as a voice of the conservative movement. But Cantor objected when asked about Limbaugh’s comments that Adolf Hitler “like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate" -- and about Rush's comparison of the Obama administration’s health-care logo to a swastika.
“Do I condone the mention of Hitler in any discussion about politics?” Cantor said. “No, I don’t, because obviously that is something that conjures up images that frankly are not, I think, very helpful.”
A Cantor spokesman also said that signs at Thursday's Hill Tea Party showing murdered Jews at Dachau were "inappropriate."
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rudeness
5393 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 06:47:53 AM
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
Like the age-old rhetoric from the Republicans [small government, less spending, etc.],
Yeah... they're WAY outta line on that one! |
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Tsnyder
10566 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 06:50:37 AM
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Cantor is just one more example of the misguided
politicians who think you can overcome a foe by becoming
more like him.
Republicans will never overcome Democrats by becoming more Liberal.
As any good marketing consultant will tell you, a winning
strategy clearly defines who you are and how you're different
from your opponent. It then focuses on promoting your strengths
as those strengths translate to benefits for your audience.
Obama's election is a text book example.
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darkstar
26247 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 06:51:33 AM
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Why do you think people shouldn't question people of their own party?...You act like that shouldn't happen and it's a sign of conflict...If he didn't say something, I'd be more upset...Your views are so limited...
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Tsnyder
10566 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 06:59:04 AM
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By the way, CMG... if there's a party mired in confusion
and disagreement right now it's definitely the Democrats...
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CoolMtgGuy
9053 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 07:04:17 AM
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I don't know where you got the idea that I am against people questioning their own party other than your own biased interpretation of my statements. I am all for it. I note though that the GOP is not tolerant of such behavior, especially from elected Republicans, and even non-elected party gods are able to get the elected ones to bow. I find that facinating and entertaining as all hell.
Of course you are not a party guy right?
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Originally posted by darkstar
Why do you think people shouldn't question people of their own party?...You act like that shouldn't happen and it's a sign of conflict...If he didn't say something, I'd be more upset...Your views are so limited...
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Mandyvilla
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Posted - 11/07/2009 : 07:06:21 AM
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Seriously, we are not all clones. There are many things I disagree with that Rush says, even what Cantor may say.....but that does not make them my enemy. There are some elected officials that do things that I think are disgraceful, but that does not mean I can't agree with them on other levels. (I may want them out of office, but I can do that with my vote or aid their opponent's campaign, if out of state.
Go ahead, try to convince the world the GOP is fractured.....if you say it enough, the liberals will believe you. But conservatives and independents came out of the woodwork last Tuesday to demonstrate just how fractured we are. |
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CoolMtgGuy
9053 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 07:08:00 AM
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Maybe so ... but the Republicans are more intolerant regarding members who stray. I refer to their actions regarding a certain Republican in NY's district #23.
Since I am very much a process guy, I believe that legislative results are usually better when there is much debate and disagreement. I have no problem with that.
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Originally posted by Tsnyder
By the way, CMG... if there's a party mired in confusion
and disagreement right now it's definitely the Democrats...
Tsnyder
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Tsnyder
10566 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 07:12:52 AM
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Frankly, I see nothing wrong with a certain degree
of intolerance. You either believe in certain core
principles or you don't.
Or, as G.K. Chesterton said... "Tolerance is the virtue
of those who believe in nothing."
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darkstar
26247 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 07:29:23 AM
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>>>>but the Republicans are more intolerant regarding members who stray. I refer to their actions regarding a certain Republican in NY's district #23.
"more"?...So we have intolerance and more intolerance, is that like wrong and more wrong?...You sound like we're in a playground, "nu uh, you're MORE......"
If everyone agreed with each other, someone would be lying...Lack of this condemnation of one's own party is very much lacking from R&Ds... |
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CoolMtgGuy
9053 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 07:31:42 AM
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You may not believe this but I like seeing politicians stand behind their party's principles. Unfortunately, the only common party-principle that I see binding Republicans is ANYTHING THAT OBAMA WANTS, WE WANT THE OPPOSITE. Even with that, I am giving the Republicans credit for steadfastly opposing everything related to Obama. Kuddos for them ... for that at least.
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Originally posted by Tsnyder
Frankly, I see nothing wrong with a certain degree
of intolerance. You either believe in certain core
principles or you don't.
Or, as G.K. Chesterton said... "Tolerance is the virtue
of those who believe in nothing."
Tsnyder
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darkstar
26247 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 07:33:01 AM
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>>>>the only common party-principle that I see binding Republicans is ANYTHING THAT OBAMA WANTS, WE WANT THE OPPOSITE.
They haven't been wrong yet, all programs have been failures... |
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VVance
6586 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 07:37:15 AM
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| I have a feeling the story may not be accurate. |
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rudeness
5393 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 07:41:07 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
You may not believe this but I like seeing politicians stand behind their party's principles.
That must make it extremely difficult to back the Demoncrats, since principles are not something they have an abundance of! |
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CoolMtgGuy
9053 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 07:46:03 AM
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If you say so ... but I am not a defender of Democrat anything. I leave that to others. Dems will get my vote while I remain anti-Republican ... sorta like the opposite of what your boys in Washington are doing.
BTW ... not all principles are of the good kind.
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Originally posted by rudeness
quote:
Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
You may not believe this but I like seeing politicians stand behind their party's principles.
That must make it extremely difficult to back the Demoncrats, since principles are not something they have an abundance of!
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darkstar
26247 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 08:15:19 AM
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>>>>Dems will get my vote while I remain anti-Republican
That's the intelligent way, focus on the details of the issue party presenting, I hope the Dems don't propose slavery! |
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rudeness
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Posted - 11/07/2009 : 08:35:56 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
If you say so ... but I am not a defender of Democrat anything. I leave that to others. Dems will get my vote while I remain anti-Republican ... sorta like the opposite of what your boys in Washington are doing.
BTW ... not all principles are of the good kind.
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Originally posted by rudeness
quote:
Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
You may not believe this but I like seeing politicians stand behind their party's principles.
That must make it extremely difficult to back the Demoncrats, since principles are not something they have an abundance of!
Put down down the crack pipe... you're delusional! You have been probably the biggest advocate of this bullshiit, Dem public option on B.O. |
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assassin17
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Posted - 11/07/2009 : 08:37:56 AM
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| Hitler was a politician and the leader of a country. If Cantor or anyone else doesn't like him being mentioned and compared to another politician or world leader, then he needs to just shut his idiot mouth and go get some psychiatric care, because it's a perfectly valid thing to do. |
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assassin17
7830 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 08:46:00 AM
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
Maybe so ... but the Republicans are more intolerant regarding members who stray. I refer to their actions regarding a certain Republican in NY's district #23.
That's because it's detrimental to both the party (organizationally) and the cause (philosophically).
When a party member strays to the point of aiding the other side, that's a lot of money and time wasted on that party member.
The GOP isn't in disarray, they are battling over many of them pursuing a failed strategy. When you attempt to be more like the liberals, all you are doing is becoming 'Liberal Lite'. It doesn't take long at all for voters to figure out that the regular version doesn't cost any more than the Lite. Since we're not voting to lose weight, there's no sense or benefit in choosing the Lite version.
This week's Fort Hood event shows exactly why it is so dangerous to allow a philosophically-opposed person to hang around after they've revealed themselves. Nothing good will come of it in the end, and they are the only ones who don't accept that. |
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