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paulsof1
261 Posts |
 Posted - 11/02/2009 : 4:10:59 PM
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| Now that Abdullah has conceded the Afghan election, what will hold obama back from sending more troops as requested by HIS hand picked General? Soros, Pelosi? We are there to win. This guy hasn't a clue on what it takes to win a war. Community organizing doesn't qualify. If he doesn't want to win, then we need to pull out. Our military deserves better than that, we owe it to them. This guy could give a rat's a_ _. He's too tied up with this garbage health care bill and stumping for the dems. |
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craigppls
2115 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 4:29:21 PM
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40k troops won't do ****...the Russians killed over 1 million they didn't win.
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Mandyvilla
6395 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 4:48:41 PM
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| Well, he should stop **cking around. Get them out of there or give them support. But damn, don't leave them hanging. |
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darkstar
26263 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 4:53:27 PM
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Some war of necessity huh, as Obama put it...
Whether he sends more or not, he's weak and spineless and all he thinks about is how it will effect him and his agenda...He knows the decision he makes in regard to Afghanistan will lose some of his support in the House, he needs the vote on HC first...All his excuses in regard to Afghanistan are gone and if he didn't have a decision made for both outcomes of the election alredy, I'll vote a straight Dem ticket next election...
Screw American lives, we gots an agenda to push!!!!!!!!! |
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homebroker@sbcgl
7370 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 5:52:06 PM
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| Give Obama a Ak47 suit him up and air drop him over Kabul, maybe he can win the battle alone. |
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khoiey
2968 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 5:58:17 PM
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| I feel bad for the boots on the ground wondering why they should risk their lives to EIDs and Washington is unsure about the mission. |
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paulsof1
261 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 6:03:25 PM
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Originally posted by craigppls
40k troops won't do ****...the Russians killed over 1 million they didn't win.
Original request was 80k. Again, we are there to win, not to waffle. I don't give two s_ _ _ ts about Russia. We are the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and this is 2009.
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GetLoans4me
2697 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 6:23:36 PM
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Pull the troops out. There is no logical war plan for this Afganistan mess.
We cannot help a country of 5,000 + years old change their ways so why bother? |
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 6:39:05 PM
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How do you define WIN since you are so certain that a WIN is possible?
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Originally posted by paulsof1
Now that Abdullah has conceded the Afghan election, what will hold obama back from sending more troops as requested by HIS hand picked General? Soros, Pelosi? We are there to win. This guy hasn't a clue on what it takes to win a war. Community organizing doesn't qualify. If he doesn't want to win, then we need to pull out. Our military deserves better than that, we owe it to them. This guy could give a rat's a_ _. He's too tied up with this garbage health care bill and stumping for the dems.
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paulsof1
261 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 6:41:50 PM
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Originally posted by GetLoans4me
Pull the troops out. There is no logical war plan for this Afganistan mess.
We cannot help a country of 5,000 + years old change their ways so why bother?
That is not why we are there, chief but the Taliban is a problem, no doubt. The CIC has a zero plan. |
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 6:44:06 PM
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| I wish that Obama would pull our troops out of Afghanistan but that will not happen. It seems clear that the options presented by the Joint Chiefs were not acceptable so the were directed to do some more homework. I'm ok with that. |
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GetLoans4me
2697 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 6:48:12 PM
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while you're okay with that, there will be dead soldiers and costing taxpayers $$$$.
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
I wish that Obama would pull our troops out of Afghanistan but that will not happen. It seems clear that the options presented by the Joint Chiefs were not acceptable so the were directed to do some more homework. I'm ok with that.
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paulsof1
261 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 6:56:14 PM
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
I wish that Obama would pull our troops out of Afghanistan but that will not happen. It seems clear that the options presented by the Joint Chiefs were not acceptable so the were directed to do some more homework. I'm ok with that.
Do some more homework.....hmmmmmmmmm....slam health care bill but wait on something a helluva lot more important. Pal, you are twisted. National Security should be the number one priority, yet obama and the libs want to focus on what, sir? I am sure you have no children or other family members serving over there, do you? |
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 7:05:19 PM
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You are an arrogant priick. My son is a US Marine, just returned from Iraq and preparing to be deployed to Afghanistan. How about you azzhole.... do you have any family there?
... and I'm not your phucking pal.
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Originally posted by paulsof1
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
I wish that Obama would pull our troops out of Afghanistan but that will not happen. It seems clear that the options presented by the Joint Chiefs were not acceptable so the were directed to do some more homework. I'm ok with that.
Do some more homework.....hmmmmmmmmm....slam health care bill but wait on something a helluva lot more important. Pal, you are twisted. National Security should be the number one priority, yet obama and the libs want to focus on what, sir? I am sure you have no children or other family members serving over there, do you?
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paulsof1
261 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 7:19:42 PM
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
You are an arrogant priick. My son is a US Marine, just returned from Iraq and preparing to be deployed to Afghanistan. How about you azzhole.... do you have any family there?
... and I'm not your phucking pal.
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Originally posted by paulsof1
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
I wish that Obama would pull our troops out of Afghanistan but that will not happen. It seems clear that the options presented by the Joint Chiefs were not acceptable so the were directed to do some more homework. I'm ok with that.
Do some more homework.....hmmmmmmmmm....slam health care bill but wait on something a helluva lot more important. Pal, you are twisted. National Security should be the number one priority, yet obama and the libs want to focus on what, sir? I am sure you have no children or other family members serving over there, do you?
Nice language.......I have a son as well deployed.....I also have friends that have children deployed...one with three over there. When did your son enlist and why did he? Don't you agree that he deserves the support of this jackwad prez and morons in Washington? |
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paulsof1
261 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 7:37:40 PM
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
How do you define WIN since you are so certain that a WIN is possible?
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Originally posted by paulsof1
Now that Abdullah has conceded the Afghan election, what will hold obama back from sending more troops as requested by HIS hand picked General? Soros, Pelosi? We are there to win. This guy hasn't a clue on what it takes to win a war. Community organizing doesn't qualify. If he doesn't want to win, then we need to pull out. Our military deserves better than that, we owe it to them. This guy could give a rat's a_ _. He's too tied up with this garbage health care bill and stumping for the dems.
Anything is possible. Remember obama is our prez and you have job. |
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darkstar
26263 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 03:36:44 AM
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>>>> It seems clear that the options presented by the Joint Chiefs were not acceptable
To whom, a community organizer?...The one that said this war was a "NECESSITY", funny, he doesn't fight it like it is...
What do those Joint Chiefs know anyway, bunch of warmongers<tic>...
I hope people's sons and daughters aren't killed because of his lack of decision making...He's had months since McChrystal's recommendation to accept or deny it, he's a weak leader who puts politics over people(his Dem buddies will get mad if he sends troops, forget the people that need them to live, he has an agenda he needs support for and can't piss them off, how many corners has he painted himelf into now?)...Afghanistan's corrupt govt was known and not changing regardless of re-election, what lies could he possibly tell himself to think differently?... |
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benjamin
6966 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 05:45:46 AM
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| God Bless the troops, may the Devil get the politicians for sending them to a bullsht place and undeclared war. |
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 05:59:18 AM
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You did not answer my question nor can anyone of those calling for troops to be deployed without a clear mission. Anyone care to explain what they mean by WIN in this current situation?
The Prez is doing the right thing and not letting the military make the decisions as was the case in prior administration.
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Originally posted by paulsof1
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
How do you define WIN since you are so certain that a WIN is possible?
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Originally posted by paulsof1
Now that Abdullah has conceded the Afghan election, what will hold obama back from sending more troops as requested by HIS hand picked General? Soros, Pelosi? We are there to win. This guy hasn't a clue on what it takes to win a war. Community organizing doesn't qualify. If he doesn't want to win, then we need to pull out. Our military deserves better than that, we owe it to them. This guy could give a rat's a_ _. He's too tied up with this garbage health care bill and stumping for the dems.
Anything is possible. Remember obama is our prez and you have job.
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 06:06:01 AM
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Originally posted by benjamin
God Bless the troops, may the Devil get the politicians for sending them to a bullsht place and undeclared war.
Disagree. The mission was to conquer the enemy. Now, the objective is completely muddled.
Having an inexperienced White House running the War rather then relying upon their General is the problem. For, this White House appears more concerned with politics then they seem concerned with National Defense.
My guess at this point....There will be a negotiated truce with the Taliban, a truce which will be seen as a surrender by the enemy, our troops will be redeployed and Obama's base will be happy.
Longer term, what happens as a result of this move, probably not good. |
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darkstar
26263 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 06:08:41 AM
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| There was a clear strategy in March when he sent more troops, then he used the election as an excuse once he got resistance from the left, now that excuse is gone and you're saying they didn't think this thru yet?...I'm sure they've thought thru all contingencies and made plans for them all by now...He's acting political, not in our troops best interest in this war of "necessity"...Keep lying to yourself if you think otherwise, fight or bring them home, there are only 2 choices... |
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 06:11:41 AM
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CMG, You think the President (a community organizer who has ZERO military experience) should not listen to the military leader he put in place?
He said Afghanistan was a war of necessity, now he is asking the troops to fight without the proper tools. I can't believe anyone who has a son or daughter in the theater would not want every single thing the general asks for to be deployed.
I understand you may want Obama to bring the troops home (fair point) but while a single soldier is there they should have every single soldier, weapon, armor, etc to ensure they win every battle with minimal American casualties.
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 06:11:52 AM
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
You did not answer my question nor can anyone of those calling for troops to be deployed without a clear mission. Anyone care to explain what they mean by WIN in this current situation?
The Prez is doing the right thing and not letting the military make the decisions as was the case in prior administration.
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Originally posted by paulsof1
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
How do you define WIN since you are so certain that a WIN is possible?
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Originally posted by paulsof1
Now that Abdullah has conceded the Afghan election, what will hold obama back from sending more troops as requested by HIS hand picked General? Soros, Pelosi? We are there to win. This guy hasn't a clue on what it takes to win a war. Community organizing doesn't qualify. If he doesn't want to win, then we need to pull out. Our military deserves better than that, we owe it to them. This guy could give a rat's a_ _. He's too tied up with this garbage health care bill and stumping for the dems.
Anything is possible. Remember obama is our prez and you have job.
Honestly, that is the most dim-witted thing you've ever posted. |
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darkstar
26263 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 06:13:52 AM
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Sadly he's too anti-rep to be objective...
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paulsof1
261 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 06:18:06 AM
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
You did not answer my question nor can anyone of those calling for troops to be deployed without a clear mission. Anyone care to explain what they mean by WIN in this current situation?
The Prez is doing the right thing and not letting the military make the decisions as was the case in prior administration.
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Originally posted by paulsof1
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
How do you define WIN since you are so certain that a WIN is possible?
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Originally posted by paulsof1
Now that Abdullah has conceded the Afghan election, what will hold obama back from sending more troops as requested by HIS hand picked General? Soros, Pelosi? We are there to win. This guy hasn't a clue on what it takes to win a war. Community organizing doesn't qualify. If he doesn't want to win, then we need to pull out. Our military deserves better than that, we owe it to them. This guy could give a rat's a_ _. He's too tied up with this garbage health care bill and stumping for the dems.
Anything is possible. Remember obama is our prez and you have job.
Winning is conquering the enemy. The war on terror(or overseas contingency operation....the phrase the zero uses...politically leftly correct.) will be a long battle. Terrorists want to kill us. Our military is protecting us. We need to take the fight to them or they bring it to us. Which way do you want it? God bless your son, he is a true patriot and in my prayers along with the rest of our military.
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Mandyvilla
6395 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 06:35:14 AM
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| Indecision is worse than the wrong decision. More die with indecision, this is truly an obamanation. (and yes, the spelling should be changed) |
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GetLoans4me
2697 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 07:17:34 AM
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Haven't anybody learn the war history in Afghanistan? The Russians tried that for 8 bloody years and they still struggle.
What makes you think Americans can walk in and solve their 5,000+ years conflict? dumb azzez |
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 07:23:02 AM
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Sure sure sure .... indecision? How about you do not have a clue what should be done? I ask again ... what do YOU define as WIN? All you chicken hawks want is to send more troops everywhere ... but have no answer to the WHY question.
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Originally posted by Mandyvilla
Indecision is worse than the wrong decision. More die with indecision, this is truly an obamanation. (and yes, the spelling should be changed)
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 07:26:08 AM
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As I expected ... nothing more than bullshiit talking points and speaking in generalities. You still have not answered the question that the Prez is trying to answer ... what defines winning? Don't bother to give it another try because you are incapable of understanding the importance of answering that question.
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Originally posted by paulsof1
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
You did not answer my question nor can anyone of those calling for troops to be deployed without a clear mission. Anyone care to explain what they mean by WIN in this current situation?
The Prez is doing the right thing and not letting the military make the decisions as was the case in prior administration.
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Originally posted by paulsof1
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
How do you define WIN since you are so certain that a WIN is possible?
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Originally posted by paulsof1
Now that Abdullah has conceded the Afghan election, what will hold obama back from sending more troops as requested by HIS hand picked General? Soros, Pelosi? We are there to win. This guy hasn't a clue on what it takes to win a war. Community organizing doesn't qualify. If he doesn't want to win, then we need to pull out. Our military deserves better than that, we owe it to them. This guy could give a rat's a_ _. He's too tied up with this garbage health care bill and stumping for the dems.
Anything is possible. Remember obama is our prez and you have job.
Winning is conquering the enemy. The war on terror(or overseas contingency operation....the phrase the zero uses...politically leftly correct.) will be a long battle. Terrorists want to kill us. Our military is protecting us. We need to take the fight to them or they bring it to us. Which way do you want it? God bless your son, he is a true patriot and in my prayers along with the rest of our military.
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 07:26:56 AM
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Originally posted by GetLoans4me
Haven't anybody learn the war history in Afghanistan? The Russians tried that for 8 bloody years and they still struggle.
What makes you think Americans can walk in and solve their 5,000+ years conflict? dumb azzez
Please lets not compare the best military in the history of the world with the 2nd rate Soviet Military. |
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 07:26:58 AM
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You mean objective like you? Hahaha ....
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Originally posted by darkstar
Sadly he's too anti-rep to be objective...
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GetLoans4me
2697 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 07:30:57 AM
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2nd rate my azz!!!! Russians were the German style war killers! They kill anything in site included women and children.
I say it again, get the troops out. It's NOT worth the battle that we will have more dead soldiers. We already lost 5,000+ soldiers
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Originally posted by djorge44
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Originally posted by GetLoans4me
Haven't anybody learn the war history in Afghanistan? The Russians tried that for 8 bloody years and they still struggle.
What makes you think Americans can walk in and solve their 5,000+ years conflict? dumb azzez
Please lets not compare the best military in the history of the world with the 2nd rate Soviet Military.
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 07:42:56 AM
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Best at what? I would agree our military is best at fighting organized, State-sponsored wars against uniformed enemy. You show you complete ignorance with your statement because the war that needs to be fought today requires that our values been left behind when our military enters the battle fields. Killing, raping, plunderings of everyone and everything in sight was easy for Russians in Afghanistan ... and the Taliban still sent them packing. Short of building a nation [acceptable to America] out of that wasteland, we will never "win" anything. Decades of more military action and tens of thousands of dead solidiers will not change anything in the land that even Ghengis Khan could not tame. Of course you Rightwingnut chickenhawks know better ...
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Originally posted by djorge44
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Originally posted by GetLoans4me
Haven't anybody learn the war history in Afghanistan? The Russians tried that for 8 bloody years and they still struggle.
What makes you think Americans can walk in and solve their 5,000+ years conflict? dumb azzez
Please lets not compare the best military in the history of the world with the 2nd rate Soviet Military.
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 07:47:55 AM
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Originally posted by GetLoans4me
2nd rate my azz!!!! Russians were the German style war killers! They kill anything in site included women and children.
I say it again, get the troops out. It's NOT worth the battle that we will have more dead soldiers. We already lost 5,000+ soldiers
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Originally posted by djorge44
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Originally posted by GetLoans4me
Haven't anybody learn the war history in Afghanistan? The Russians tried that for 8 bloody years and they still struggle.
What makes you think Americans can walk in and solve their 5,000+ years conflict? dumb azzez
Please lets not compare the best military in the history of the world with the 2nd rate Soviet Military.
The Soviet Military had equipment that was rusted, there equipment was 2nd rate. We gave the Afghans anti-aircraft weapons and the Soviets crumbled. When the Soviet union fell we found NUCLEAR SITES with ICMB's in such disarray (rust, corrosion) we were not sure if they would even launch. Think our nukes are not hitting the exact spot on the map we want if we ever launched them? |
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 07:53:55 AM
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That explains why a bunch of turban-heads are able to ambush and kill our soldiers so easily. Where was all that sophisticated weaponry in the last week or so when those helicopters crashed [probably shot down] and kiiled so many of our soldiers and CIA? The stuff you read and believe was mostly propoganda from the military machine that live for more money and more weapons and more fighting because it makes them all very rich. Propoganda bullshiit is all it is.
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Originally posted by djorge44
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Originally posted by GetLoans4me
2nd rate my azz!!!! Russians were the German style war killers! They kill anything in site included women and children.
I say it again, get the troops out. It's NOT worth the battle that we will have more dead soldiers. We already lost 5,000+ soldiers
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Originally posted by djorge44
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Originally posted by GetLoans4me
Haven't anybody learn the war history in Afghanistan? The Russians tried that for 8 bloody years and they still struggle.
What makes you think Americans can walk in and solve their 5,000+ years conflict? dumb azzez
Please lets not compare the best military in the history of the world with the 2nd rate Soviet Military.
The Soviet Military had equipment that was rusted, there equipment was 2nd rate. We gave the Afghans anti-aircraft weapons and the Soviets crumbled. When the Soviet union fell we found NUCLEAR SITES with ICMB's in such disarray (rust, corrosion) we were not sure if they would even launch. Think our nukes are not hitting the exact spot on the map we want if we ever launched them?
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darkstar
26263 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 08:01:42 AM
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>>>All you chicken hawks want is to send more troops everywhere
Yeah, home...
Your boy only has 2 choices here, fight to win or leave, it's not that tough a choice unless you're more concerned with politics over lives...He's just a weak leader with no balls, Snowe showed more! |
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benjamin
6966 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 08:23:00 AM
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VV What is the defined goal????????????????????????????
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CoolMtgGuy
9067 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 08:31:12 AM
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Again ... the questions you avoid.
Fight who to win what? The answers were very clear and the mission winnable when the war in Afghanistan first started. Everything changed when Bushie boy and his puppeteer decided to abandon the mission there and go start their new war in Iraq. That gave the Taliban and Al Queida enough time and space to reconstitue and now they are kicking our azzes. Of course none of that is true for Rightwingnut chickenhawks.
Empty words is all I hear from you all but I do wish for the withdrawal part. That won't happen though. If the mission is simply to prevent the Taliban from taking control of Afghanistan again, nothing short of permanent occupation will accomplish that. If the mission is to keep the Taliban and Al Queida scums in Pakistan, that could be done with the troops already there ... but on a permanent basis.
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Originally posted by darkstar
>>>All you chicken hawks want is to send more troops everywhere
Yeah, home...
Your boy only has 2 choices here, fight to win or leave, it's not that tough a choice unless you're more concerned with politics over lives...He's just a weak leader with no balls, Snowe showed more!
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benjamin
6966 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 09:02:05 AM
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Fight who? Shoot at who? What uniforms are THEY wearing?
Bring the troops home, send in a billion dollars worth of Cat equipment,fertilizer,seeds, bricks and mortar, let the friendlies be able to grow food and establish some type of economy, they will be able to deal with the bad guys once they realize what a decent life is all about. |
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darkstar
26263 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 09:06:15 AM
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
Again ... the questions you avoid.
Fight who to win what? The answers were very clear and the mission winnable when the war in Afghanistan first started. Everything changed when Bushie boy and his puppeteer decided to abandon the mission there and go start their new war in Iraq. That gave the Taliban and Al Queida enough time and space to reconstitue and now they are kicking our azzes. Of course none of that is true for Rightwingnut chickenhawks.
Empty words is all I hear from you all but I do wish for the withdrawal part. That won't happen though. If the mission is simply to prevent the Taliban from taking control of Afghanistan again, nothing short of permanent occupation will accomplish that. If the mission is to keep the Taliban and Al Queida scums in Pakistan, that could be done with the troops already there ... but on a permanent basis.
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Originally posted by darkstar
>>>All you chicken hawks want is to send more troops everywhere
Yeah, home...
Your boy only has 2 choices here, fight to win or leave, it's not that tough a choice unless you're more concerned with politics over lives...He's just a weak leader with no balls, Snowe showed more!
I don't think they should be there so there's nothing to win, only lose there...Fight hard and win fast against whomever H thinks is the enemy or bring them home, simple choice... |
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VVance
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 09:15:19 AM
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Originally posted by benjamin
VV What is the defined goal????????????????????????????
It was to drive the Taliban and Al-Qaeda from power and elimination.
The defined goal now? I don't know what this White House thinks. Maybe they should watch some news footage from 9/11 and figure out what a goal would be once again. |
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benjamin
6966 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 09:26:07 AM
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| Apparently the goal worked, we are fighting against civilians that are protecting their homeland from invaders. |
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 09:42:05 AM
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Originally posted by benjamin
Apparently the goal worked, we are fighting against civilians that are protecting their homeland from invaders.
That's not true. We're still fighting against Taliban fighters.
If you're saying that the civilians prefer Taliban rule, then it's time to take the gloves off and let the Military do their thing.
I haven't forgotten 9/11. It sounds as if you have. |
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GetLoans4me
2697 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 09:48:42 AM
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Now hold da f*kk up here!!!!! Why sending 40k+ troops in Afghanistan instead of promote 1,000 troops to search Osama? We're not in afghanistan to police and supervise their problems, we're suppose to go after osama. That's what is wrong with our corrupted congress people. They listen to war companies money too much.
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Originally posted by VVance
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Originally posted by benjamin
Apparently the goal worked, we are fighting against civilians that are protecting their homeland from invaders.
That's not true. We're still fighting against Taliban fighters.
If you're saying that the civilians prefer Taliban rule, then it's time to take the gloves off and let the Military do their thing.
I haven't forgotten 9/11. It sounds as if you have.
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 09:59:46 AM
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Originally posted by GetLoans4me
Now hold da f*kk up here!!!!! Why sending 40k+ troops in Afghanistan instead of promote 1,000 troops to search Osama? We're not in afghanistan to police and supervise their problems, we're suppose to go after osama. That's what is wrong with our corrupted congress people. They listen to war companies money too much.
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Originally posted by VVance
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Originally posted by benjamin
Apparently the goal worked, we are fighting against civilians that are protecting their homeland from invaders.
That's not true. We're still fighting against Taliban fighters.
If you're saying that the civilians prefer Taliban rule, then it's time to take the gloves off and let the Military do their thing.
I haven't forgotten 9/11. It sounds as if you have.
Oh yea, that OBL guy. The guy that Obama said he would get until after he was elected.
This administration doesn't seem to feel Terrorism is a problem. Instead, they view it as something we'll just have to live with.
I wonder hypothetically, if this Administration had been in charge in 1941, what our reaction would have been? |
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GetLoans4me
2697 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 10:10:26 AM
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| Ha atomic bomb in afghanistan??? The world will hate us even more!! You know Americans need NATO's support. Bawack has no balls for that threat. |
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benjamin
6966 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 11:11:10 AM
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The administration still uses the word Taliban as a catch all phraSe. It would be hard for even them to say we are fighting terrorists in their own country.
We have invaded a soveriegn country on bull****t terms, same as the Soviets, Ghengis Khan, Alexander, etc.
The civilians are protecting their homeland from invaders, once again. |
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benjamin
6966 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 11:14:48 AM
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I REMEMBER 9/11 WHEN 15 SAUDIS AND THEIR FANANTIC FRIENDS ATTACKED AMERICA.
WHAT REVISIONIST HISTORY ARE YOU FOLLOWING? |
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VVance
6599 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 11:39:32 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by benjamin
I REMEMBER 9/11 WHEN 15 SAUDIS AND THEIR FANANTIC FRIENDS ATTACKED AMERICA.
WHAT REVISIONIST HISTORY ARE YOU FOLLOWING?
They were Al-Qaeda Terrorists, supported fully by the Taliban (Al-Qaeda run) in Afghanistan.
That's not revisionist history. That's fact. Most of the Al-Qaeda people involved in 9/11 were of Saudi backgrounds. While there may well have been people in Saudi Arabia who cheered 9/11, I can tell you there were also people right here who also celebrated.
We don't, however, attack people for having sick beliefs. We do take actions when these sick beliefs are manifested in the form of murder of 3000 innocent Americans. |
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Rick_Santelli
264 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 11:50:41 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by VVance
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Originally posted by benjamin
God Bless the troops, may the Devil get the politicians for sending them to a bullsht place and undeclared war.
Disagree. The mission was to conquer the enemy. Now, the objective is completely muddled.
Having an inexperienced White House running the War rather then relying upon their General is the problem. For, this White House appears more concerned with politics then they seem concerned with National Defense.
My guess at this point....There will be a negotiated truce with the Taliban, a truce which will be seen as a surrender by the enemy, our troops will be redeployed and Obama's base will be happy.
Longer term, what happens as a result of this move, probably not good.
6 full years in Afghanistan under Bush/Cheney and we were winning the War? |
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paulsof1
261 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2009 : 11:55:24 AM
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| Bottom line what will the zero do? He was the one who stated he would make a decision when there was a clear winner. The community organizer called kharzai to congratulate him....well, what next? Schnit or get off the pot. The guy was probably never a boy scout and now we have to count on him to make military decisions. What about the General? He's got some experience, wouldn't you think? The arrogant one just needs to make a decision. That's all. Is that so much to ask? |
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