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shaslam
728 Posts |
 Posted - 07/01/2009 : 07:42:34 AM
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Ooooh it's so juicy!! Now instead of being just a bunch of quotes from "anonymous sources", people are actually going on the record about the epic failure that was McCain's VP choice. Enjoy. . .
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908 |
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darkstar
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 07:47:14 AM
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| True or not(they're only OLD opinions), it looks just as bad, or worse, for those around McCain that were too weak to say something and played "yes people" to be on the "in" and if they believed these things, possibly cost him the campaign with their silence...***** to be us because of it... |
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 07:49:07 AM
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Those same people who were quoted in the hit piece have already catagorically denied the quotes.
You really ought to see a doctor about your PDS. |
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Tsnyder
10567 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 07:52:17 AM
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The funny thing is that all these Liberals love to
pile on Sarah Palin while saying she is a complete idiot
and a total mistake... If that's true why all the fuss?
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 07:52:26 AM
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| It also occurs to me this move by the extreme left wingers is from the same playbook. Bush is no longer around so they need someone else to demonize. Isn't this how you get things done as described in "Rules For Radicals"? |
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homer5
2250 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 07:52:58 AM
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When one's Messiah is such a miserable failure, on every front I might add, the only thing left to do is divert attention to others. In this case diverting attention to yesterday's news.
Too bad we are reminded on a daily basis just how incompetent the Messiah really is. That in itself dwarfs such irrelevant criticism of people who don't mis-shape policy and steer the country to ruin. |
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 08:03:58 AM
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Shaslam, you are hilarious. Did you even read it?
Most of the article is "according to someone close". Practically no one is on the record.
It is a hit piece because, once again, the left does not understand why she is so popular. |
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 08:06:56 AM
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Originally posted by djorge44
Shaslam, you are hilarious. Did you even read it?
Most of the article is "according to someone close". Practically no one is on the record.
It is a hit piece because, once again, the left does not understand why she is so popular.
Very specific in it's sources...."People In Alaska"... |
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shaslam
728 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 08:13:48 AM
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Originally posted by djorge44
Shaslam, you are hilarious. Did you even read it?
Most of the article is "according to someone close". Practically no one is on the record.
It is a hit piece because, once again, the left does not understand why she is so popular.
I'm on page 3 right now. And I started reading it as soon as I posted it. Did you all finish reading it already?
And can someone show me where the quotes have been denied? I'd love to read that article. But even regardless of the quotes, there was obviously some in depth reporting going on here. There's no way this level of behind-the-scenes detail can be obtained without having actual insider knowledge.
So Vance what are you claiming here, that this entire thing has been made up, falsified? |
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 08:26:19 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by shaslam
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Originally posted by djorge44
Shaslam, you are hilarious. Did you even read it?
Most of the article is "according to someone close". Practically no one is on the record.
It is a hit piece because, once again, the left does not understand why she is so popular.
I'm on page 3 right now. And I started reading it as soon as I posted it. Did you all finish reading it already?
And can someone show me where the quotes have been denied? I'd love to read that article. But even regardless of the quotes, there was obviously some in depth reporting going on here. There's no way this level of behind-the-scenes detail can be obtained without having actual insider knowledge.
So Vance what are you claiming here, that this entire thing has been made up, falsified?
It's an agenda driven piece, and we will see more of them from less then reputable sources.
It comes down to who you choose to believe. There was a front page story from the Globe a couple of weeks ago, using at least one named source, claiming Obama has a closet gay life and Michelle was doing everything she could to keep it secret.
Was this entire thing made up or falsified? |
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homer5
2250 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 08:27:31 AM
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| Shas can you address the relevancy point I bring up in my post? Why is yesterday's news more important than your Messiah's current and ongoing failures and how does a Palin hit piece out weigh those failures? |
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shaslam
728 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 08:38:07 AM
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Shas can you address the relevancy point I bring up in my post? Why is yesterday's news more important than your Messiah's current and ongoing failures and how does a Palin hit piece out weigh those failures?
Because this thread is about the Sarah Palin article, and the perceptions (or misperceptions) about her political future. There is no reason to go into Obama's failures or triumphs in this thread when there are 5-10 others per day that you guys post. |
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shaslam
728 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 08:39:28 AM
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It comes down to who you choose to believe. There was a front page story from the Globe a couple of weeks ago, using at least one named source, claiming Obama has a closet gay life and Michelle was doing everything she could to keep it secret.
Was this entire thing made up or falsified?
The Globe? As in, the supermarket tabloid Globe? Wow. Just wow. |
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homer5
2250 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 08:42:36 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by shaslam
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Shas can you address the relevancy point I bring up in my post? Why is yesterday's news more important than your Messiah's current and ongoing failures and how does a Palin hit piece out weigh those failures?
Because this thread is about the Sarah Palin article, and the perceptions (or misperceptions) about her political future. There is no reason to go into Obama's failures or triumphs in this thread when there are 5-10 others per day that you guys post.
So you can't put relevancy into perspective then. By the way, what Obama triumphs? |
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shaslam
728 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 08:52:54 AM
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Originally posted by homer5
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Originally posted by shaslam
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Shas can you address the relevancy point I bring up in my post? Why is yesterday's news more important than your Messiah's current and ongoing failures and how does a Palin hit piece out weigh those failures?
Because this thread is about the Sarah Palin article, and the perceptions (or misperceptions) about her political future. There is no reason to go into Obama's failures or triumphs in this thread when there are 5-10 others per day that you guys post.
So you can't put relevancy into perspective then. By the way, what Obama triumphs?
SARAH PALIN The article, and this thread is about SARAH PALIN. |
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homer5
2250 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 08:57:28 AM
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 09:03:26 AM
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Originally posted by shaslam
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It comes down to who you choose to believe. There was a front page story from the Globe a couple of weeks ago, using at least one named source, claiming Obama has a closet gay life and Michelle was doing everything she could to keep it secret.
Was this entire thing made up or falsified?
The Globe? As in, the supermarket tabloid Globe? Wow. Just wow.
Yes, the Globe. Now, I remind you that another tabloid, the National Enquirer, was the only publication to cover the John Edwards "love child" story.
Point being, Palin is the front runner for the GOP as of now. Any stories from left wing publications, which are about 85% and I submit includes Vanity Fair, are going to be attack pieces. If Palin were not the front runner, you would be seeing no stories at all. That's the nature of Media in this country today. Everything you read is agenda driven, not necessarily reporting.
If it makes you feel better to read hit pieces and believe them, that's your choice. I submit many Obama supporters feel better about their guy when reading things like this.
However, your perception of reality and what reality may in fact be, could be two different things.
Like I keep saying here over and over. Be careful to believe what you read or hear as factual. |
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 09:04:53 AM
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Yes i read the article. It took me about 10 minutes to read it this morning when I first saw it on the news. I am a huge fan of Vanity Fair and have a subscription. Bill Crystal believes the sources are from the McCain campaign. They have been all over Sarah to cover up their huge mistakes and their candidates mistakes.
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shaslam
728 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 09:09:48 AM
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There can be no denying that a certain segment of the electorate absolutely adores Sarah Palin. And while this article definitely digs at old wounds, I think it's still extremely relevant when you consider that this describes her debut to the country and her history in Alaska.
Since she is one of the front runners for the nomination in 2012, this stuff will be analyzed and scrutinized. I don't know how anyone can say it's old news, or that it should be ignored. No one wants to let things from Obama's past fall by the wayside. Why should Sarah be given a pass? |
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frank drigotas j
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 09:19:57 AM
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I'm more interested in reading* this morning about Palin's assertion that she could best the President in a long run.
Right there I'm impressed on several levels.
Oh, Palin also posed in a joggin suit for the news release.
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*AP newspaper article, byline Anchorage, from an undisclosed online story last Tuesday. It was in the Portland (Maine) Press Herald 7/1/09
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dwallace
784 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 09:42:05 AM
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Originally posted by VVance
It also occurs to me this move by the extreme left wingers is from the same playbook. Bush is no longer around so they need someone else to demonize. Isn't this how you get things done as described in "Rules For Radicals"?
There are plenty of the GOP'ers out there making stupid mistakes by either keeping their mouths flapping (Cheney, Limbaugh, etc) and those who can't help but drawing the spotlight to their hypocritical banter (Sanford, etc). The Dems hardly need to try to find someone since the GOP'ers keep gift wrapping themselves. |
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craigppls
2115 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 09:52:32 AM
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Exactly...
But VVance posts a story from a tab on the First Lady...and everyone of them come out and say "where there's smoke there's fire", which is bull****.
They dont like it when you shine a bright light on Palin.
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Originally posted by dwallace
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Originally posted by VVance
It also occurs to me this move by the extreme left wingers is from the same playbook. Bush is no longer around so they need someone else to demonize. Isn't this how you get things done as described in "Rules For Radicals"?
There are plenty of the GOP'ers out there making stupid mistakes but either keeping their mouths flapping (Cheney, Limbaugh, etc) and those who can't help but drawing the spotlight to their hypocritical banter (Sanford, etc). The Dems hardly need to try to find someone since the GOP'ers keep gift wrapping themselves.
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shaslam
728 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 10:00:49 AM
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| I think Vance has shown himself to be an unequivocal Palin apologist. So there should be no surprises there Craig. |
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craigppls
2115 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 10:04:36 AM
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Originally posted by shaslam
I think Vance has shown himself to be an unequivocal Palin apologist. So there should be no surprises there Craig.
there isnt |
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 10:10:37 AM
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Originally posted by craigppls
Exactly...
But VVance posts a story from a tab on the First Lady...and everyone of them come out and say "where there's smoke there's fire", which is bull****.
They dont like it when you shine a bright light on Palin.
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Originally posted by dwallace
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Originally posted by VVance
It also occurs to me this move by the extreme left wingers is from the same playbook. Bush is no longer around so they need someone else to demonize. Isn't this how you get things done as described in "Rules For Radicals"?
There are plenty of the GOP'ers out there making stupid mistakes but either keeping their mouths flapping (Cheney, Limbaugh, etc) and those who can't help but drawing the spotlight to their hypocritical banter (Sanford, etc). The Dems hardly need to try to find someone since the GOP'ers keep gift wrapping themselves.
I posted that story as a "Tabloid Story" as meaning to take it with a grain of salt. The only reason I posted it was because it was so obsurd, I found it funny.
I don't care what kind of light you shine on Palin. While I know no such scrutiny was ever used on the current President, the role of the press is to investigate and report accurately. Some how, unless things have changed since I studied journalism, sources such as "people in Alaska" aren't normally considered credible.
Like I said, believe what ever you want to believe. I just use caution in believing much of what I see of hear as factual.
As for Palin, I think she's tough enough to take all the stuff, made up or other wise, they throw at her. If she's not, so be it. |
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Boulderco
1775 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 10:26:30 AM
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| The reason she is still being covered is because she still has ambitions for the future. She keeps herself and her family in the limelight and she and her supporters then complain about the downside of it. I voted for her and McCain, but it was hard to do. I almost voted for the Libertarian because I thought Palin was a terrible pick and it made me question McCain's judgement. |
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ML
4971 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 10:31:41 AM
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| If Sen. McCain had the brains to pick Tim Pawlenty, he'd be President McCain now. Pawlenty is the guy you numbnuts should be pimping! |
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 10:36:35 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by ML
If Sen. McCain had the brains to pick Tim Pawlenty, he'd be President McCain now. Pawlenty is the guy you numbnuts should be pimping!
You seem to have a fixation with nuts?
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Jonas
1217 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 10:37:51 AM
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Please, no. By the way I hate the sentiment of the left wing that says I hope Palin is on the ticket in 2012 because she can easily be defeated. Can't we have a viable candidate on both sides?
If this is true and she is the front runner, my god...just no.
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Originally posted by VVance
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Originally posted by shaslam
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It comes down to who you choose to believe. There was a front page story from the Globe a couple of weeks ago, using at least one named source, claiming Obama has a closet gay life and Michelle was doing everything she could to keep it secret.
Was this entire thing made up or falsified?
The Globe? As in, the supermarket tabloid Globe? Wow. Just wow.
Yes, the Globe. Now, I remind you that another tabloid, the National Enquirer, was the only publication to cover the John Edwards "love child" story.
Point being, Palin is the front runner for the GOP as of now. Any stories from left wing publications, which are about 85% and I submit includes Vanity Fair, are going to be attack pieces. If Palin were not the front runner, you would be seeing no stories at all. That's the nature of Media in this country today. Everything you read is agenda driven, not necessarily reporting.
If it makes you feel better to read hit pieces and believe them, that's your choice. I submit many Obama supporters feel better about their guy when reading things like this.
However, your perception of reality and what reality may in fact be, could be two different things.
Like I keep saying here over and over. Be careful to believe what you read or hear as factual.
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 10:46:34 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Jonas
Please, no. By the way I hate the sentiment of the left wing that says I hope Palin is on the ticket in 2012 because she can easily be defeated. Can't we have a viable candidate on both sides?
If this is true and she is the front runner, my god...just no.
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Originally posted by VVance
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Originally posted by shaslam
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It comes down to who you choose to believe. There was a front page story from the Globe a couple of weeks ago, using at least one named source, claiming Obama has a closet gay life and Michelle was doing everything she could to keep it secret.
Was this entire thing made up or falsified?
The Globe? As in, the supermarket tabloid Globe? Wow. Just wow.
Yes, the Globe. Now, I remind you that another tabloid, the National Enquirer, was the only publication to cover the John Edwards "love child" story.
Point being, Palin is the front runner for the GOP as of now. Any stories from left wing publications, which are about 85% and I submit includes Vanity Fair, are going to be attack pieces. If Palin were not the front runner, you would be seeing no stories at all. That's the nature of Media in this country today. Everything you read is agenda driven, not necessarily reporting.
If it makes you feel better to read hit pieces and believe them, that's your choice. I submit many Obama supporters feel better about their guy when reading things like this.
However, your perception of reality and what reality may in fact be, could be two different things.
Like I keep saying here over and over. Be careful to believe what you read or hear as factual.
Remembering, to many, the most non-viable, unqualified person ever on a ticket is now President. |
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khoiey
2967 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 10:47:28 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by shaslam
Ooooh it's so juicy!! Now instead of being just a bunch of quotes from "anonymous sources", people are actually going on the record about the epic failure that was McCain's VP choice. Enjoy. . .
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908
I think you should be focus more on Obama rather than Palin. Obama has all the spotlight. His wrong moves will put us all 100 times backward than Bush. |
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homer5
2250 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 10:55:23 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by shaslam
There can be no denying that a certain segment of the electorate absolutely adores Sarah Palin. And while this article definitely digs at old wounds, I think it's still extremely relevant when you consider that this describes her debut to the country and her history in Alaska.
Since she is one of the front runners for the nomination in 2012, this stuff will be analyzed and scrutinized. I don't know how anyone can say it's old news, or that it should be ignored. No one wants to let things from Obama's past fall by the wayside. Why should Sarah be given a pass?
According to CNN, Huckabee is the front runner with Romney and Palin tied for second.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/02/cnn-poll-no-frontrunner-in-gop-2012-presidential-race/
None of this matters however. The last election is proof of this. Obama was elected because the electorate was running away from Bush.
The same will hold true for Obama. He will lose not because of superior competition, but because people will flee his failed presidency in the way they fled Bush. The universal pain caused by his presidency and failed policies dwarfs that of the Bush years. The exodus away from dems and the Messiah will reflect this. |
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ML
4971 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 11:00:34 AM
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You seem to forget redistricting after the Census, and the simple fact of demographics, that do not favor the Good Old Persons party. The electorate is getting younger and darker, whom do you think this benefits?
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homer5
2250 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 11:06:57 AM
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| Immense economic pain knows no political party. People will be running away from the failed Obama initiatives in droves and at break neck speed. This cannot be reflected in demographics. |
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ML
4971 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 11:14:18 AM
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I believe younger and darker also favors affinity or celebrity politics. Unless the GOP can get Arnold or Charles Barkley to run, the future looks bleak?
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frank drigotas j
3868 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 11:14:57 AM
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Moose, bear, clothes, snowmobiles, jogging...
The list of Palin topics of expertise grows longer and longer.
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GetLoans4me
2695 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 11:30:24 AM
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What difference does it make?
Rep sux
Dem sux
Both party created this debts and problems. |
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 11:35:24 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by frank drigotas jr
Moose, bear, clothes, snowmobiles, jogging...
The list of Palin topics of expertise grows longer and longer.
dollar
Yep...wait..wasn't there somthing else she did quite successfully.........that's right, isn't she a Governor of a State? Ah, well it's Alaska....and we all know those people there are complete idiots. I mean, it's amazing Alaska is even a state, right? I mean, those people aren't sophisticated like we are in the Northeast!
Now, if she had been something accomplished, like a community organizer, or a state senator, then she would be qualified.
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djorge44
3699 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 11:39:08 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by shaslam
Ooooh it's so juicy!! Now instead of being just a bunch of quotes from "anonymous sources", people are actually going on the record about the epic failure that was McCain's VP choice. Enjoy. . .
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908
I think it is funny that you say this is juicy then admit later in the thread to not even have read it (you were on page 3 of 6).
I don't know about you but I usually read something completely before posting it. To each his own I guess. |
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frank drigotas j
3868 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 11:45:21 AM
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VVance,
I don't think folks in Alaska are idiots, but they sure make some bad picks.
Republican Ted Stevens turned out to be the worst of the bunch.
Believe me, I have been to Alaska, including the capital, Juneau. There is an entirely different mentality up there.
Being Governor doesn't necessarily indicate brightness or ability. I am sure you would agree that Michael Dukakis-D was an example.
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Scrooge McDuck
15108 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 11:48:18 AM
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VVance and Palin, sitting in a tree. k i s s i n g. first comes love, then come marriage. then come VVance w the baby carriage.
admit it, thats your wet dream. |
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 12:02:58 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by frank drigotas jr
VVance,
I don't think folks in Alaska are idiots, but they sure make some bad picks.
Republican Ted Stevens turned out to be the worst of the bunch.
Believe me, I have been to Alaska, including the capital, Juneau. There is an entirely different mentality up there.
Being Governor doesn't necessarily indicate brightness or ability. I am sure you would agree that Michael Dukakis-D was an example.
dollar
I think Senator Stevens received a full pardon, did he not?
In terms of MA, I don't really have an opinion of Dukakis, although I can think of quite a few Governors whom I would question intellect. For that matter, I can think of a couple of Presidents.
However, being Governor of a state is an accomplishment and looks much better on a resume then a number of other positions. |
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 12:05:23 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Scrooge McDuck
VVance and Palin, sitting in a tree. k i s s i n g. first comes love, then come marriage. then come VVance w the baby carriage.
admit it, thats your wet dream.
If that were the case, I cringe at the thought of what your dreams about Obama might be. |
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Scrooge McDuck
15108 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 12:24:09 PM
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haha, you seriously think i like Obama? how long have we all been going back and forth about this politics crap?
i dont like any of them. they all suck. including your crush Palin.
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Originally posted by VVance
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Originally posted by Scrooge McDuck
VVance and Palin, sitting in a tree. k i s s i n g. first comes love, then come marriage. then come VVance w the baby carriage.
admit it, thats your wet dream.
If that were the case, I cringe at the thought of what your dreams about Obama might be.
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 12:41:45 PM
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Originally posted by Scrooge McDuck
haha, you seriously think i like Obama? how long have we all been going back and forth about this politics crap?
i dont like any of them. they all suck. including your crush Palin.
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Originally posted by VVance
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Originally posted by Scrooge McDuck
VVance and Palin, sitting in a tree. k i s s i n g. first comes love, then come marriage. then come VVance w the baby carriage.
admit it, thats your wet dream.
If that were the case, I cringe at the thought of what your dreams about Obama might be.
In truth, I'm probably more supportive of feminist rights that most female feminists. Perhaps that's why I'm sensitve to a lot of the attacks on her.
Having said that, yes, I acknowledge she's attractive and I do find her refreshing for a politician. |
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assassin17
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 12:48:30 PM
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Originally posted by shaslam
No one wants to let things from Obama's past fall by the wayside. Why should Sarah be given a pass?
Because Sarah didn't run for President and is not the President. DUH!
For such a "stupid" and "irrelevant" person, Democrats seem extremely afraid of her. Gee, I wonder why? Why else do they mention her on a daily basis, if it isn't fear? |
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Scrooge McDuck
15108 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 12:52:05 PM
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they do? she came to NYC, Letterman who is based in NY made a joke, and its been all Palin wringing that one for every drop from there from what i saw.
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Originally posted by assassin17
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Originally posted by shaslam
No one wants to let things from Obama's past fall by the wayside. Why should Sarah be given a pass?
Because Sarah didn't run for President and is not the President. DUH!
For such a "stupid" and "irrelevant" person, Democrats seem extremely afraid of her. Gee, I wonder why? Why else do they mention her on a daily basis, if it isn't fear?
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VVance
6587 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 12:54:29 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by assassin17
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Originally posted by shaslam
No one wants to let things from Obama's past fall by the wayside. Why should Sarah be given a pass?
Because Sarah didn't run for President and is not the President. DUH!
For such a "stupid" and "irrelevant" person, Democrats seem extremely afraid of her. Gee, I wonder why? Why else do they mention her on a daily basis, if it isn't fear?
I was on this one site...they had a picture of a McCain rally beofre Palin...like a couple of hundred people...and a picture after Palin was announced...several thousand people...it was really funny. If I can find it, I will post the link. |
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dwallace
784 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 1:08:50 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by assassin17
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Originally posted by shaslam
No one wants to let things from Obama's past fall by the wayside. Why should Sarah be given a pass?
Because Sarah didn't run for President and is not the President. DUH!
For such a "stupid" and "irrelevant" person, Democrats seem extremely afraid of her. Gee, I wonder why? Why else do they mention her on a daily basis, if it isn't fear?
It may be that the opposing party wants to keep this example of such poor judgment in terms of selecting a running mate in front of the voters. The fear may be that the Dems are worried everyone will forget her and desperate move made by the GOP's presidential nominee. |
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shaslam
728 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2009 : 1:14:20 PM
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Originally posted by djorge44
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Originally posted by shaslam
Ooooh it's so juicy!! Now instead of being just a bunch of quotes from "anonymous sources", people are actually going on the record about the epic failure that was McCain's VP choice. Enjoy. . .
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908
I think it is funny that you say this is juicy then admit later in the thread to not even have read it (you were on page 3 of 6).
I don't know about you but I usually read something completely before posting it. To each his own I guess.
I was posting it so we could all discuss it. I wasn't using it as a reference or debating point of a particular argument. I just wanted to throw it out there for folks who might be interested but aren't normally readers of Vanity Fair.
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shaslam
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 1:24:27 PM
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I was on this one site...they had a picture of a McCain rally beofre Palin...like a couple of hundred people...and a picture after Palin was announced...several thousand people...it was really funny. If I can find it, I will post the link.
Indeed Vance, Sarah definitely drove up the interest level and rallied the conservative base to a degree that McCain alone could not. She doesn't believe in evolution, is staunchly anti-abortion, and thumbs her nose at intellectuals who use multi-syllabic words. Clearly she is going to have a very strong appeal to the lowest common denominator types - rural folks, gun enthusiasts, NASCAR lovers, rabid churchgoers, etc. These particular demographics LOVE Sarah Pee.
But the question is, can she win a significant national election when this is her primary base? Most political analysts would say no, based on simple numbers such as the fact that only 21% of Americans label themselves as republicans. Or the fact that a candidate needs to win a decent percentage of the minority vote to win overall, and her approval rating with minorities is in the teens. Aside from those tangible numbers, then there are also the intangible issues such as her lack of academic excellence and poor grasp of economic issues and foreign policy concerns.
Can Palin overcome these obstacles and transform her image and herself into someone the majority of Americans will trust as Commander In Chief? I say no. Not a chance. But I'd love you hear how/why/when you think she can. |
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