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masmortgage
26 Posts |
 Posted - 06/29/2009 : 7:01:55 PM
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masmortgage
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2009 : 09:07:52 AM
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-Unlimited Agents and 250 websites for Loan officers
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Mortgage Lens
365 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2009 : 06:57:50 AM
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| Nice but this might be better suited to the announcements forum. |
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underarmsrfun
525 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2009 : 12:19:47 PM
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| Tinyurl is known to scrape information from your original links. If I were you I'd put up a legitimate top level domain and setup your redirect or cloak links from there. Protects your information in case there are any tracking id's etc. you want kept intact. |
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fleming65
62 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2009 : 10:55:26 AM
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Just curious, maybe I'm missing something, why would any actual real estate agent practitioner want or need co-branded listing site from a loan officer?
Particularly one that is not tied to the MLS which would prevent other agents from finding and selling the listing. |
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masmortgage
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2009 : 1:43:20 PM
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Originally posted by fleming65
Just curious, maybe I'm missing something, why would any actual real estate agent practitioner want or need co-branded listing site from a loan officer?
Particularly one that is not tied to the MLS which would prevent other agents from finding and selling the listing.
Yes, it can be tied to the MLS search listings. We just have to activate that feature. The system is very flexible. Check out our group agent marketing & training site to watch a presentation of some of the features and how to use the system. www.agentsunfairadvantage.com |
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fleming65
62 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2009 : 2:01:21 PM
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Thank you for that. I was just wondering - every real estate agent I've ever know or heard of was a member of their local MLS.
Additionally, with agent recruitment being one of the top concerns for real estate brokers and companies like RE/MAX, First Team, Realty World, etc, many tools like this and much more are being provided to them for free.
Offering a system that they already have in abundance, but now requires real estate agents to co-brand with me as a loan officer does not seem like much value for them.
Am I missing something? It almost sounds just like another marketing system that provides hope...with no results, and sounds good on it's face only because it claims that I can throw out a bunch of websites and not have to put any effort fourth.
I just went to the website for this company and read the testimonials - one of which is from a processor at Allied (someone who has never actually originated any loans).
I'm glad this is working for you and wish you the best. Personally, I have always found the amount of effort you put into something is usually about the same as your return.
Good luck,
J.
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netoriginator
8 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2009 : 08:06:50 AM
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Originally posted by fleming65
Just curious, maybe I'm missing something, why would any actual real estate agent practitioner want or need co-branded listing site from a loan officer?
Particularly one that is not tied to the MLS which would prevent other agents from finding and selling the listing.
Look at it from another perspective..
Can an agent over promote / advertise a listing?
When a real estate agent signs a listing agreement with a seller they agree to promote the listing.
Most agents use 7 or more advertising sources to market a listing.
How namy loan officers approach agent for business saying the same old stuff? I have better rates, I provide better service, I work weekends, I can get loans done when other can't.......
How many loan officers try to help agants promote the agents business as a way to get the agents business? |
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fleming65
62 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2009 : 09:30:20 AM
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I understand what you are saying and appreciate your comments.
However, different advertising sources for agents does not mean doing the same type of advertising many times.
Providing value is important - But, actual value. I guess the part I'm missing is - Where's the value for the agent when they currently list their properties in a much better way, for less money (or free) and without being required to co-brand with me?
I'll disagree with you...Providing value does include on-time closings, making myself available nights and weekends, and providing real services to help agents do what they do...increase offers and closings for their listing as well as work buyers. By the way, most of my competition does not do these things. In fact, I very rarely see any other loan officer when I call on my real estate offices.
The market has changed. Passing out websites that are really only value-added for me as the loan officer, then expecting loans to fall from the sky, while I put no real effort fourth does not cut it any more.
Since my last post, I've asked my referral partners what they think. They pretty much told me the same thing.
I wish you the best on your success using this marketing system. But, after actually polling my agents who almost chuckled at this, I don't think it's for me.
J. |
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netoriginator
8 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2009 : 10:13:04 AM
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Isn't that the great thing about free choice.. if you do not see a value in something you do not have to use it.. (by the way I do not use the service mentioned in this post).
I agree that the core services a loan officer provide has value.. but everyone says they do these things(Most do not). Agents and borrowers expect that delivering these service is a given or they do not want to work with you. Agents are jaded to these types of presentations.
You said:
"However, different advertising sources for agents does not mean doing the same type of advertising many times."
Different advertising sources reach different people. Just like different people listen to different radio stations, home buyers look at many different sources to find a home.
There is no such thing as too much marketing.
I appreciate your thoughts that this type of tool is not for you.
That is the best reason for you not to use it.
The market place will determine how viable it is. It will either succeed or it will not.
(I do question the statement made by the original poster that the service changed his/her life - it's a little over the top) |
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fleming65
62 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2009 : 10:39:59 AM
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I agree with you that there no such thing as too much marketing...the right kind of marketing.
Marketing in a way that really provides no value to real estate agents, only the loan officer, is never a good thing in today's market.
You are correct. Different advertising sources do reach different audiences. But this system does not seem to be providing anything different, and according to my agents, nothing of any value to them either.
Again, I wish you the best.
J. |
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masmortgage
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2009 : 4:10:20 PM
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Have you guys seen the videos on this site? www.agentsunfairadvantage.com
If an agent does not see the value OK...move on to the next one. No need to twist anyones arms with this.
There is plenty of value for the agents. It helps agents obtain more listings and new buyers for there listings also post a professional template to craiglist, backpage, realtor.com, zillow.com, Oodle,Google, Vast and many more. The system also has a leads pool of new buyers which I refer to my agents and that's not all.
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Originally posted by fleming65
I agree with you that there no such thing as too much marketing...the right kind of marketing.
Marketing in a way that really provides no value to real estate agents, only the loan officer, is never a good thing in today's market.
You are correct. Different advertising sources do reach different audiences. But this system does not seem to be providing anything different, and according to my agents, nothing of any value to them either.
Again, I wish you the best.
J.
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fleming65
62 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2009 : 4:47:34 PM
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Originally posted by masmortgage
The system also has a leads pool of new buyers which I refer to my agents and that's not all.
Really? Like some gathering of qualified buyers are just waiting around for you to decide to refer them to an agent??? Does this company actually claim you can do this?
Also, did you know that these tools are already offered from companies to agents as part of their recruitment package?
I noticed in the video it shows adding a $1,400,000 home to Craigslist. Is this company actually claiming that this buyer segment, someone who is coming in with 25% - 30% down (upwards of $500,000 including closing costs) cruises Craigslist looking for houses?
They are saying somehow providing this to agents will give me more loans and not require any effort from me? I don't think so.
One unsolicited suggestion - providing "real" value to Realtors combined with basic business principles such as hard work, knowledge, professionalism and always being available will not only almost immediately broaden your referral base, but increase your originations and closings.
However, I hope this works for you and I wish you the best of luck.
J.
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rainmand
5205 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 12:10:29 PM
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>>why would any actual real estate agent practitioner want or need co-branded listing site from a loan officer?
Because I'm way better then they are at getting prospects to see my websites and contact me. The key to success is the domain name. If you own the most popular domain name for the community, and you understand how SEO works, you'll be able to generate way more traffic at your website then most Realtor's are capable of with theirs. You will be introducing many of the prospects to the Realtor.
>>Is this company actually claiming that this buyer segment, someone who is coming in with 25% - 30% down (upwards of $500,000 including closing costs) cruises Craigslist looking for houses?
It doesn't matter what the prospects income is, most folks across the Nation use craigslist, so it's important to use a single property website that automatically integrates with craigslist.
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fleming65
62 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 12:23:35 PM
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>>>most folks across the Nation use craigslist, so it's important to use a single property website that automatically integrates with craigslist.
I'll agree with lower priced properties. However, this buyer segment does not spend time on craigslist looking for homes.
>>>Because I'm way better then they are at getting prospects to see my websites.
Really? You think you can do a better job of putting properties in front of buyers that RE/MAX, KW, Century 21, etc? Wow. That's not mentioning all the sites tied to all MLS' across the country such as Homeseekers.
The point is, this would be a very valuable service if Realtors didn't already have it in abundance which they do. C21 alone spends millions a year marketing properties without waiting for me to list their properties.
This sounds great. But, it isn't real world. Particularly in the current market.
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rainmand
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Posted - 08/08/2009 : 12:47:46 PM
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>>However, this buyer segment does not spend time on craigslist looking for homes.
That comment suggests you haven't spent much time researching how folks find homes via the internet.
>>You think you can do a better job of putting properties in front of buyers that RE/MAX, KW, Century 21, etc? Wow.
Not only do I think it - I know it as fact and have a long history of generating exclusvie leads for Realtors and Loan Officers via the internet.
>>this would be a very valuable service if Realtors didn't already have it in abundance which they do.
It doesn't matter if they have the resource available to them, because most of them don't know how to use it properly. The same goes with Loan Officers and Mortgage Brokers. Both of those two disciplines don't know how to use the internet properly to generate leads. There's much much more to it then simply putting up a website. Enable an expert to perform the task and it'll result in additional customers. |
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netoriginator
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Posted - 08/08/2009 : 1:13:09 PM
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J.,
I am not trying to pick a fight with you... but your lack of understanding of how effective these tools can be and how the internet works is showing.. just do a simple test... Search for Raymond's name (see his profile) with the word mortgage on google and see what you get... (you can do the same with mine) then do the same thing with yours.
It obvious that you do not understand or use the medium.
Variety of choice is what drive a marketplace. 10 agents in the room will give you different lists of resources that they use.
If this type of resource is working for someone why knock something you do not know much about?
Lee Walsh
http://blog.netoriginator.com
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fleming65
62 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 2:21:08 PM
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All due respect...Are you gentleman really saying that you are good at SEO placement because you type "Raymond Denton Mortgage" and your site appears??
Of course you come up at the top...you searched with your specific name. The problem is that refinance clients, buyers, agents, etc that don't already know "Raymond Denton" will instead only type "Mortgage". Try that and see what happens. That is SEO placement.
In other words, a buyer types "Homes for sale" (for example) will never see the site you provided to an agent.
I wish you the best of luck. |
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rainmand
5205 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 3:14:32 PM
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| I hope most my competitors think like you think James. As long as you think it can't be done, and aren't willing to try, it means less competition for me. You make it much easier for me to differentiate myself and add value in areas you won't be able to reach. |
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fleming65
62 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 3:38:30 PM
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Don't mis-understand Raymond. Remember, you entered this topic and started this convo.
Unfortunately, it seems you have been mis-lead by this marketing company. They have convinced you that you have SEO placement when you don't, and that all national real estate companies have no idea how to market properties without your help.
I wish you the best as I do all BO members. It's just a tough market and now's the time for us to get back to basics and stop thinking so much of ourselves.
J.
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rainmand
5205 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 3:51:15 PM
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>>now's the time for us to get back to basics and stop thinking so much of ourselves.
I agree, and I've assisted many loan officers with establishing their own websites that provided them with consistent business. A little over two years ago, John Parker (from here at Brokeroutpost) asked me how and why I was successful at generating internet based business. I spent a little time with him on the phone and recommended a book for him to read. He did everything the book said and 6 months later he was funding 7 VA home loans a month - consistently, and providing Realtors all over Texas with new clients. He was successful because he understood how to differentiate himself via his website and make it seen by everyone who was searching for his expertise. |
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fleming65
62 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 5:28:10 PM
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I think that is wonderful...I really do. But the question at hand isn't what happened over two years ago.
Pretty much everyone was a buyer then. Low FICO, no money down and just tell us your income was all on the menu.
The timing is the WHOLE point. If the market today was what it was over two years ago (as in your statement) we wouldn't be having this conversation.
You see, you are under the mis-understanding that agent's can't find buyers. Actually, there are just as many buyers who want to buy and sellers who want to sell as there were two years ago. The DIFFERENCE is that many sellers can't sell and many buyers can't buy.
Realtors are perfectly capable of writing offers...just not closing. Passing out free websites and waiting for loans to fall from the sky will lead to failure in today's market.
Good luck.
J.
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rainmand
5205 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 5:56:51 PM
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>>If the market today was what it was over two years ago (as in your statement) we wouldn't be having this conversation.
You're wrong James. It's all about niches. If you can define a niche, or community, you can dominate it online. I've been doing this for a lot longer then two years. Six years ago 100% financing for folks one day out of a bankruptcy with a 575 FICO was the niche. I targeted it and did well. Today the niches are entirely different - but that doesn't matter, because I can use the same techniques and receive the same superior results online.
I think outside the box, unlike you, leaving you to compete with the majority of the other Originators. Competition is tougher when you travel down the road you've selected. But it's safe for you, and comfortable, which is why you and most others decide to travel down that path. But it's good for me, because it results in reduced competition. |
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fleming65
62 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 6:15:03 PM
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| OK. Good marketing! |
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rainmand
5205 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2009 : 10:13:37 AM
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Call to Action; Secret Formulas to Improve Online Results
ISBN #1-932226-39-7 |
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netoriginator
8 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2009 : 1:06:35 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by fleming65
All due respect...Are you gentleman really saying that you are good at SEO placement because you type "Raymond Denton Mortgage" and your site appears??
Of course you come up at the top...you searched with your specific name. The problem is that refinance clients, buyers, agents, etc that don't already know "Raymond Denton" will instead only type "Mortgage". Try that and see what happens. That is SEO placement.
In other words, a buyer types "Homes for sale" (for example) will never see the site you provided to an agent.
I wish you the best of luck.
J,
My point was not that I can rank high using my name for a search... my point was that you do not have an internet presence at all and you are trying to tell some people that do how the lay of the land is...
You are getting good advice if you choose not to take it there is no harm / no foul. We post here for free.
By the way, to answer your question... try searching for net branch, mortgage branch, net branch opportunity, etc.. there are over 150 key search terms that I have earned top 10 organic placement by understanding how the clock is built. For some of the key search terms I have more than one site and/or more than one page showing up on Google's first page.
That is SEO placement.
Lee Walsh
http://www.netoriginator.com
http://blog.netoriginator.com |
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fleming65
62 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2009 : 1:23:09 PM
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OK. Any of those key words that you have so successfully gained SEO placement benefit any of us? I thought we were talking about increasing my loan production with Realtors and buyers - making websites easy to find for buyers searching for "Mortgages" or "Houses for Sale"
In other words, all the keywords you mentioned don't help me originate loans at all. There will never be a Realtor or buyer that searches for "Net Branch".
If not, then you do not have SEO placement since the marketing you are talking about cannot be found by my target clients.
But, thank you for the free advice. |
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rainmand
5205 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2009 : 2:01:27 PM
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>>In other words, all the keywords you mentioned don't help me originate loans at all.
You're missing the point entirely. He targeted specific keywords that match his particular discipline and his websites benefit accordingly. Now he's listed organically and receives leads from people interested in his discipline cost effectively. I've done the same but my discipline is different then his, so my websites are only seen by my target audience. Your niche is probably different then ours, but you can do the same as we've done with the proper preparation.
It'd probably be better for you to stay away from generating business via the internet independently. You'd do better purchasing leads generated from the internet by those who understand how it works. |
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netoriginator
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 8:12:21 PM
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Raymond gets it! The technique and the process are the same for any desired search terms if you understand the key principles.
J - I don't thing that you want to understand... my post answered your statements that I quoted. I am sorry I lost you there.
The best agent in the world is a starving agent if prospects do not decide to call them instead of someone else. The same goes for loan officers who know it all. Without an effective marketing plan they are just a loan officer without clients.
The abundance of choice in any community is the reason a smart business person has to market and promote.
I think Raymond's advice is the best you can get.
"It'd probably be better for you to stay away from generating business via the internet independently. You'd do better purchasing leads generated from the internet by those who understand how it works."
I doubt that you can learn to fish.. So you will have to buy yours from someone who can. |
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KHufford
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Posted - 09/09/2009 : 11:38:10 AM
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Originally posted by fleming65
Thank you for that. I was just wondering - every real estate agent I've ever know or heard of was a member of their local MLS.
Additionally, with agent recruitment being one of the top concerns for real estate brokers and companies like RE/MAX, First Team, Realty World, etc, many tools like this and much more are being provided to them for free.
Offering a system that they already have in abundance, but now requires real estate agents to co-brand with me as a loan officer does not seem like much value for them.
Am I missing something? It almost sounds just like another marketing system that provides hope...with no results, and sounds good on it's face only because it claims that I can throw out a bunch of websites and not have to put any effort fourth.
Out of every agent I know and have spoken with to date, which is many...not a single one has anything close this system. One of my agents has something similar for websites through her title company, but nothing even close to the whole domorelons.com system.
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realtorsfriend
236 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2009 : 5:26:58 PM
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| How does the system compare to www.postlets.com? Which is free. |
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