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dkendall1979

13278 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:02:53 AM

We haven't discussed the good Shocktor lately...

Anyone hear of any black-ops going down in Arizona as of late?

Scrooge McDuck

15108 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:04:43 AM

negative ghostrider the patern is full.

Davemtg

572 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:17:16 AM

right here

dkendall1979

13278 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:23:41 AM

I figured as much. Hence, the post.

quote:
Originally posted by Davemtg

right here

jscorbett

4602 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:26:14 AM

he is a tool

dkendall1979

13278 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:33:48 AM

I think Schnell had good intentions, just went about it the wrong way.

There's a little truth in every tale, as they say, and when someone purports themselves to be a "man of faith" or whatever, I think there was a basis for that claim, but then they get consumed with the evidentary gullibility of most people and take advantage of that trust.

However, the Medal of Honor thing is what set me against him. If it hadn't been for that claim, I would have never had an issue with the guy.

quote:
Originally posted by jscorbett

he is a tool

jscorbett

4602 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:37:24 AM

THe MOH thing is a blantant insult to a lot of people

Scrooge McDuck

15108 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:40:30 AM

he never did clarify, but he did have a medal of honor. it was just from 31 flavors for eating the scooper bowl sundae with all the toppings. he gets all he can eat ice cream for the next 5 years for it.

definately worth mentioning.

for real though, i never heard him give bad advice. i saw him put out lender names for people w questions, and for the ones i knew, they were never wrong. it was just all the other weird stuff that popped up.

dkendall1979

13278 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:44:42 AM

Agreed.

quote:
Originally posted by jscorbett

THe MOH thing is a blantant insult to a lot of people

Scrooge McDuck

15108 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:48:23 AM

i am not a MOH. not even close. so i dont truely understand, but i know if i was one, id be pissed.

dkendall1979

13278 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:49:45 AM

Yeah, humans have a hard time being medals.

quote:
Originally posted by Scrooge McDuck

i am not a MOH. not even close. so i dont truely understand, but i know if i was one, id be pissed.

MortgageBoarder

6494 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:56:52 AM

I stayed out of the Doc madness so I have no clue what you guys are talking about. Care to enlighten me?

dkendall1979

13278 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 10:57:54 AM

Interesting choice of words there.

quote:
Originally posted by MortgageBoarder

I stayed out of the Doc madness so I have no clue what you guys are talking about. Care to enlighten me?

Scrooge McDuck

15108 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 11:00:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by dkendall1979

Yeah, humans have a hard time being medals.

quote:
Originally posted by Scrooge McDuck

i am not a MOH. not even close. so i dont truely understand, but i know if i was one, id be pissed.

you know what i mean dammit.

Quicksilver

5940 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 7:00:39 PM

All I know is couple years ago I had some questions on some raw land, he said he could do it on here as he said he funded raw land constantly (never got into checking on it). Next thing I know I get about 15-20 emails from people on here telling me how much of scam he was, the big up front money that never went to anything etc. And that was a couple years ago, before all that recent stuff this year and last, I guess that alone should tell you his rep.

pmbjed

211 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 : 7:04:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dkendall1979

I think Schnell had good intentions, just went about it the wrong way.

There's a little truth in every tale, as they say, and when someone purports themselves to be a "man of faith" or whatever, I think there was a basis for that claim, but then they get consumed with the evidentary gullibility of most people and take advantage of that trust.

However, the Medal of Honor thing is what set me against him. If it hadn't been for that claim, I would have never had an issue with the guy.

quote:
Originally posted by jscorbett

he is a tool

Isn't it a federal crime to claim a military medal you did not earn?

jscorbett

4602 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 : 07:49:38 AM

It would be interesting and well warranted if thats the case

jscorbett

4602 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 : 07:52:43 AM

AND IT IS......

The Stolen Valor Act of 2005 (the Act), signed into law by President George W. Bush on December 20, 2006,[1] is a U.S. law that broadens the provisions of previous U.S. law addressing the unauthorized wear, manufacture, sale or claim (either written or verbal) of any military decorations and medals. It is a federal misdemeanor offense, which carries a punishment of imprisonment for not more than 1 year and/or a fine; the scope previously covered only the Medal of Honor.

The Act was first introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives on July 19, 2005 by Representative John Salazar, a Democrat from Colorado, as H.R. 3352.[2][3] It was introduced into the Senate by Senator Kent Conrad, a Democrat from North Dakota, on November 10, 2005 as S. 1998.[4][5] The Senate version was passed unanimously on September 7, 2006.[5][6] The Senate version then went to the same House Judiciary Committee that held the House version. The Act briefly stalled, but the House subsequently passed the Senate version, S. 1998, on December 6, 2006.[7]

The purpose of the Act is to strengthen the provisions of 18 U.S.C. § 704 by broadening its scope and strengthening penalties. Specific new provisions in the Act include: granting more authority to Federal law enforcement officers, extending scope beyond the Medal of Honor, broadening the law to cover false claims whereas previously an overt act had to be committed, covering mailing and shipping of medals, and protecting the reputation and meaning of military heroism medals.[3][5] Under the act, it is illegal to wear, buy, sell, barter, trade or manufacture "any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces." In the 18 months after the act was enacted, the Chicago Tribune estimates 20 prosecutions. The number is increasing as awareness about the law spreads.

The need for the Act came about because of large numbers of fake military heroes in the United States. For example, as of June 2, 2006 there were only 120 living Medal of Honor recipients, but there were far more known imposters.[9][10][11] There are also large numbers of fake Navy SEALS[12][13] and Army Special Forces,[14] among others.

The Orders and Medals Society of America (OMSA), an organization of collectors, had opposed the bill in its current form. OMSA is of the opinion that the changes to 18 U.S.C. § 704 included wording that implied that any movement or exchange of medals would be illegal.[15][16]

HolyMoses

151 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 : 9:15:43 PM

It is and Mortgagemessiah made sure the appropriate people were notified. Swami Don and his faux lawyer brother in Florida have been dealt with. Let this go.

Davemtg

572 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 07:54:34 AM

I take full responsibility for the error made by a publicist and marketer of a single claim of the medal of honor on a web site during the years 2000-2001. Those who have earned the Medal of Honor are true heroes and have made the ultimate sacrifice for our country. It is wrong to be negligent about such matters and I should have thoroughly proofread that copy and corrected that error immediately. I deeply apologize for that mistake.

Now, however you mistakenly allege that I claim to be a green beret. You also mistakenly allege that I claim POW status. Here are your words:

"You claimed to be a Green Beret, a Medal of Honor recipient, and a POW. You stole the valor of others who earned it when you did not. It has been about 24 hours now and no apology."

This is not true. I have never claimed POW status nor have I claimed to be Green Beret. I have a high regard for the Green Berets and I especially hold a high regard for all POW's.

As I stated, I accept full responsibility for the claim of the MOH on a web site in 2000-2001. All subsequent versions of that web site did not contain that error. The web site was eventually taken down. Please accept my apology.

Margaret's Military Zendo was a fictionalized piece of writing. You keep mentioning this article. Please note that even that article of fiction makes NO mention of me being a POW or a Green Beret.

You also state that my rank was E-4 and that is correct according to the FOIA. However, in fact I was an E-5 and that is an error in the FOIA. My captain at the 6th Psyop Battalion was Captain Jimmy Slayton. I also worked with a Green Beret, Captain Dye. I in fact did receive a medal for "good service". I don't know exactly what the medal was specifically called, but it was for doing a job well done and is in the possession of my father.

Next, you truck out an article posted on a broker board associated with my name and Omega Capital Funding and the FBI. If however, you read through that entire article it is entirely about Von Cummings. The article doesn't even mention Omega Capital Funding. A disgruntled broker posted that message and titled it with my name for revenge. But, out of fairness please read through that FBI posting on Von Cummings and if you are a fair person you will notice that it does NOT mention my name. Again it is about Von Cummings and Paramount on a deal several years ago.

Lastly, if I have insulted the Vietnam veterans and the Green Berets, I do offer my sincere apologies. I hope you accept this as not a PARTIAL apology, but a full apology to our armed services and the tremendous sacrifices they make for our country. I also believe that psyops, you said "chairborne" is also a valuable contribution to the military. I am proud of my service to this country.

Thank you for your acceptance of my apology. As I stated in my last email I take full responsibility for that egregious blunder.

Thank you also for bringing to my attention who Chuck and Mary Shantag are. I have only the deepest respect for any individual who has earned a purple heart. I have no intentions of pursuing litigation with them, so everybody can calm down.

My concern is that I'm asking them to remove what is not true:

1. That I was not an Eagle Scout. I sent proof that I was in fact an Eagle Scout. They have graciously now removed that false data and I thank them for that.

2. That I made the claim of POW and service in Vietnam. I have never made such a claim and that is the truth.

I think fair is fair. I've admitted to my mistake. I think they should do the right thing and remove "allegations" of POW etc.

Lastly, while you are having your fun by making light of my religious beliefs I would like to point out that you refer to the fact that I " I know that you actually have people believe you when you say that you have called up the spirit of Linda McCartney"

You seem to be a fair individual and I doubt that you read my article, "Ghost of a Chance". This article does talk about Linda McCartney, but nowhere in the four corners of that article is their any reference to the fact that I spoke to, or called up the "spirit of Linda McCartney". May she rest in peace.

I've been under attack by competitors in another profession and they repeat these falsehoods. If you have a beef with me about my religious beliefs, fine. One of the reasons that people like Chuck Shantag served in the military is to protect this nation's right to have freedom of religion.

Lastly, you mentioned that your sons are now in the military. I guess this shows our age! I congratulate you and them, and hope for their safety during these difficult times.

I don't believe we have anything further to discuss.

jscorbett

4602 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 08:13:11 AM

SO Dave and Doc are the same person ?

Scrooge McDuck

15108 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 08:14:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jscorbett

SO Dave and Doc are the same person ?

this board is weird.

Davemtg

572 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 1:23:38 PM

bump!

HolyMoses

151 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 1:54:12 PM

Hey Don,

How is your sugar mama wife doing?

Davemtg

572 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 1:55:33 PM

Marilyn sends her love. Thanks for asking!

HolyMoses

151 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 2:05:57 PM

How's your shelf corporation in Panama doing that you run all movie deals through?

Davemtg

572 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 2:08:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by HolyMoses

How's your shelf corporation in Panama doing that you run all movie deals through?

Todos mis negocios están prosperando. ¡Gracias por pedir! ¡La mayoría de mis competidores, incluyendo usted, ha estado vencida!

Davemtg

572 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 2:10:33 PM

How is the weather in West Palm Beach? Do you still have the same apartment? Good to reconnect with old friends.

SolarMTG

473 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 2:17:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Davemtg

quote:
Originally posted by HolyMoses

How's your shelf corporation in Panama doing that you run all movie deals through?

Todos mis negocios están prosperando. ¡Gracias por pedir! ¡La mayoría de mis competidores, incluyendo usted, ha estado vencida!

I didn't know they give inmates internet access. And they gave you a toothbrush too? Or do you have to share it with Bubba?

HolyMoses

151 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 2:21:06 PM

I never did movie financing. I never pretended to be a Guru or even a fake one. I never claimed to be Chiropractor. I never claimed to have have a PhD from an internet school, so how does that make me a competitor? Oh, and your Spanish grammar is horrible.

Davemtg

572 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 2:24:19 PM

I have recently been contacted regarding possible financing for a movie based on the comic strip "Dilbert". Endless possibilities!

dkendall1979

13278 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 2:34:16 PM

No, the Prema Baba actually did speak Spanish. He wouldn't have had to cut-n-paste from a translation website.

quote:
Originally posted by lunarhamster

Dave is Doc?

Not buyin that one.

MortgageBoarder

6494 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 2:36:40 PM

People pretending to be one another on a mortgage forum, and going out of their way to make an *** of themselves.

So sad.

Davemtg

572 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 3:23:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lunarhamster

Dave is Doc?

Not buyin that one.

I have a feeling this is not Doc at all. I'd bet it is one of these guys...

boner in sweatpants
carpet moncher
emscommercial
bayfield kid

who knows? it might be that sheriff wannabe xanthum dumb. Whoever it is, this is lame.

carriemaese

3884 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 3:33:23 PM

ok I was lost, then I thought I got it, now I know I'm lost again I think.

Quicksilver

5940 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 3:35:40 PM

wtf, totally lost now lol

jscorbett

4602 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2008 : 3:50:15 PM

I will have to admit the xantham dunb was pretty comical, 1st thing he actually said that made me laugh

frank drigotas j

3871 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2008 : 10:44:11 AM

I'll play the davemtg game:

Anyone who references the Bayfield Kid has been on BO a long time (an aside: I miss the Bayfield Kid).

That profile pic looks like one of Dibert's friends.

The hot tub thread started by davemtg was too mortgage messiah.

The above, very detailed post about the medal of honor, boy scouts, the military, etc, was pure Dibert, whose obsession with Doc was obvious. No other individual would have those details burned into his brain, except of course, Doc himself, and for a plethora of reasons I doubt that davemtg is Doc.

And based upon other clues, I would guess that

davemtg = steve dibert

The only thing missing from the new persona is a penchant for things politic.

dollar

808

4508 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2008 : 11:03:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by frank drigotas jr

I'll play the davemtg game:

Anyone who references the Bayfield Kid has been on BO a long time (an aside: I miss the Bayfield Kid).

That profile pic looks like one of Dibert's friends.

The hot tub thread started by davemtg was too mortgage messiah.

The above, very detailed post about the medal of honor, boy scouts, the military, etc, was pure Dibert, whose obsession with Doc was obvious. No other individual would have those details burned into his brain, except of course, Doc himself, and for a plethora of reasons I doubt that davemtg is Doc.

And based upon other clues, I would guess that

davemtg = steve dibert

The only thing missing from the new persona is a penchant for things politic.

dollar

mortgagemessiah would never have anything to do w a Barry Manilow song or post about him even under a fake user profile & screen name . He's from Detriot & Detroit people are all about Motown & Rock n Roll, Barry Manilow is way too soft for a Motor City dude or a Motor City woman for that matter. Even talking about Barry Manilow would run the risk of you getting knocked on your azz up there. Sorry dollar, I'm not w you on this one.

davemtg is not Steve Dibert IMO.

frank drigotas j

3871 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2008 : 11:11:02 AM

808,

Excellent points. Coupled with the absence of political observations in his posts, I withdraw my nomination.

You see, if I withdraw my erroneous speculation it maintains the vailidity of my tagline.

Thanks for the help.

dollar

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