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CoolMtgGuy
3663 Posts |
 Posted - 10/10/2008 : 5:33:07 PM
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some of you might want to consider taking his lead on this. He created a monster that was threatening to eat him by whipping up the nasty and potentially dangerous retorts from his supporters at his rallies. He is now forced to defend Obama and his supporters are now booing him. This is what happens when you lose respect for your opponents. He misjudged how bad it would become for him.
Folks here will likely carry on the vitriol but I suggest that you pay attention to what the majority of voters are saying is important to them.
Good for McCain. I applaud him for doing the right thing before its too late.
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CoolMtgGuy
3663 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 7:00:19 PM
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bump
Our McCain supporters seem to have run out of words. Oh well ... maybe a better type or debate and dialog will start now that McCain himself has commited to doing so. Rest up folks ... then let's see if you all are running your own campaigns or supporting a candidate.
Good night.
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LoanPro71
2676 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 7:26:06 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
bump
Our McCain supporters seem to have run out of words. Oh well ... maybe a better type or debate and dialog will start now that McCain himself has commited to doing so. Rest up folks ... then let's see if you all are running your own campaigns or supporting a candidate.
Good night.
They're watching Hannity and O'Reilly.
Gotta get their talking points sorted out and rehearsed so they can put on a show when the familia comes over for the BBQ this weekend.
Don't worry, they'll drop by later with their "insights".
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SoCalRay
2698 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 7:31:16 PM
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IT was a rough afternoon for them
Palin news about abuse of power.
McCain stating Obama a decent guy and not a Arab |
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cspatmon
2092 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 7:57:00 PM
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Wow, that's a pretty large blow for the self righteous Repubs. and their known facts! Again, McCain and camp wasn't fully aware of what they were up against. Poised to battle Clinton and didn't have a clue how to successfully defeat Obama. Most candidates dismissed and underestimated Obama at the very beginning, as not being a serious contender......Big Mistake! |
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Rene Viloria
1826 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 8:44:13 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
some of you might want to consider taking his lead on this. He created a monster that was threatening to eat him by whipping up the nasty and potentially dangerous retorts from his supporters at his rallies. He is now forced to defend Obama and his supporters are now booing him. This is what happens when you lose respect for your opponents. He misjudged how bad it would become for him.
Folks here will likely carry on the vitriol but I suggest that you pay attention to what the majority of voters are saying is important to them.
Good for McCain. I applaud him for doing the right thing before its too late.
Same! i Have a new level of Respect for Mccain.... |
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homebroker@sbcgl
3435 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 9:13:16 PM
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The people booing him will still vote for him, so who cares.
quote:
Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
some of you might want to consider taking his lead on this. He created a monster that was threatening to eat him by whipping up the nasty and potentially dangerous retorts from his supporters at his rallies. He is now forced to defend Obama and his supporters are now booing him. This is what happens when you lose respect for your opponents. He misjudged how bad it would become for him.
Folks here will likely carry on the vitriol but I suggest that you pay attention to what the majority of voters are saying is important to them.
Good for McCain. I applaud him for doing the right thing before its too late.
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assassin17
4155 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 11:12:29 PM
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This McCain supporter was at the hospital all day, so I'll have to watch some late-night news and catch up to whatever you are gabbing about.
Not hiding. |
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shelsee801
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Posted - 10/10/2008 : 11:37:46 PM
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| Isn't he already a little to late? I think he got just what he was looking for. Now he looks like the good guy defending Obama when he has to be really enjoying this. |
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cspatmon
2092 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2008 : 07:10:58 AM
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| McCain's a lot late.....when he underestimated Obama's capabilities. |
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CoolMtgGuy
3663 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2008 : 07:44:02 AM
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Whatever kept you at the hospital all day, I hope and pray that it will be better.
What I'm "gabbing" about is something that I thought deserved to be applauded. McCain gave the microphone to an old white woman in the audience. She told him that she was scared because she had heard that Obama is an Arab. McCain took back the microphone and, after correcting this woman's idiotic statement, he went on to say how he respects Obama and appreciates his accomplishments and that no one should be afraid of Obama as President. I thought that was showing some statesmanship and I applauded him for it. I felt that it was also necessary sine he and Palin has been whipping up some pretty nasty, and dangerous, sentiment among some very dumb people in their audiences.
That's was I was "gabbing" about bud.
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Originally posted by assassin17
This McCain supporter was at the hospital all day, so I'll have to watch some late-night news and catch up to whatever you are gabbing about.
Not hiding.
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CoolMtgGuy
3663 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2008 : 07:45:18 AM
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Doing what he did, even belatedly, counts a lot in my book. The man deserves to be applauded for it. Now we'll see if he maintains that message.
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Originally posted by cspatmon
McCain's a lot late.....when he underestimated Obama's capabilities.
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cspatmon
2092 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2008 : 08:31:55 AM
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| I also commend McCain's effort. What I meant he's a lot late to change his strategy to help in his quest for the White House. |
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the_mortgage_guy
1178 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 3:27:14 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by cspatmon
McCain's a lot late.....when he underestimated Obama's capabilities.
What did he underestimate - Obama's ability to run a successful campaign or to run the White house? |
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SoCalRay
2698 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 3:30:16 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by the_mortgage_guy
quote:
Originally posted by cspatmon
McCain's a lot late.....when he underestimated Obama's capabilities.
What did he underestimate - Obama's ability to run a successful campaign or to run the White house?
McCain already stated on friday Obama would make a fine president, so it must be the campaigning part. |
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the_mortgage_guy
1178 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 4:06:06 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay
quote:
Originally posted by the_mortgage_guy
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Originally posted by cspatmon
McCain's a lot late.....when he underestimated Obama's capabilities.
What did he underestimate - Obama's ability to run a successful campaign or to run the White house?
McCain already stated on friday Obama would make a fine president, so it must be the campaigning part.
I was asking Michael why he thought McCain underestimated Obama's capabilities and what those capabilities are; not about what McCain said in a speech somewhere. So, before you try to cut and past my question with a comment why don't you answer the question as you have already spoken for Michael. |
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SoCalRay
2698 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 4:11:44 PM
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I think that McCain and the GOP underestimated that a majority of the american public is sick and tired of the negative campaigns.
It really has backfired on him. |
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the_mortgage_guy
1178 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 7:37:46 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay
I think that McCain and the GOP underestimated that a majority of the american public is sick and tired of the negative campaigns.
It really has backfired on him.
So, is it negative to tell the truth about someone's past? And, I'm not talking about Paul Pierce. |
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CoralSnake
10822 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 7:52:07 PM
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Obamas not an arab?
http://tinyurl.com/5nj55d
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cspatmon
2092 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 8:20:37 PM
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| mortgageguy, you can't be this dense....how long are you going to keep your head in the sand and pretend the real world hasn't moved on......that same tired rhetoric...not working! |
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CoolMtgGuy
3663 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 8:30:36 PM
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Have no idea what your are talking about. My head in the sand? Now that's funny ... real funny.
Edited.... to remove assumption about you.
It does not matter to me who supports who. Why am I dense for stating how I feel? Why do you say that my head is in the sand? Why don't you enlighten me? Except for two or three people on BO, the rest I do not take seriously.
quote:
Originally posted by cspatmon
mortgageguy, you can't be this dense....how long are you going to keep your head in the sand and pretend the real world hasn't moved on......that same tired rhetoric...not working!
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SoCalRay
2698 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 8:35:29 PM
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Originally posted by CoolMtgGuy
Have no idea what your are talking about. My head in the sand? Now that's funny ... real funny.
McCain/Palin is a loser ticket. They will lose partly because of the quality of their supporters. Your rhetoric nor that of McCain/Palin is working with smart voters. Hope you don't jump off a building when he loses. You'll get over it in four years.
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Originally posted by cspatmon
mortgageguy, you can't be this dense....how long are you going to keep your head in the sand and pretend the real world hasn't moved on......that same tired rhetoric...not working!
I think that was directed at THE Mortgage Guy, Not you CoolMtgGuy |
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SoCalRay
2698 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2008 : 8:38:44 PM
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McCain Favorable rating down
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/mccain_favorableunfavorable-642.html
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SoCalRay
2698 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 07:28:18 AM
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How is this not inciting people?
McCain's campaign comparing Obama to Bin Ladin.
By Tim Craig
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, October 13, 2008; B01
RICHMOND -- The chairman of the Virginia Republican Party has compared Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama to Osama bin Laden because of the Illinois senator's past association with Bill Ayers, who has confessed to domestic bombings as a member of the Vietnam War-era Weather Underground.
Virginia Democrats, and some Republicans, are outraged, saying these are the latest in a series of inflammatory statements that the GOP has made against Obama in Virginia, a state that has emerged as a crucial battleground in the election.
According to a report in this week's Time magazine, the Virginia party chairman, Del. Jeffrey M. Frederick (R-Prince William), told Virginia volunteers working for GOP nominee John McCain that Obama and bin Laden "both have friends that bombed the Pentagon."
"That is scary," Frederick said while providing talking points to GOP volunteers in western Prince William County as they prepared for a door-to-door canvass.
Several McCain surrogates have blasted Obama for his association with Ayers, but few, if any, have invoked bin Laden.
Yesterday, Frederick said he stood by the comparison, even though bin Laden planned the Sept. 11, 2001, attack on the Pentagon that killed 184 people and Obama was a child and hadn't met Ayers when the Weather Underground planted a bomb at the Pentagon in 1972. No one was hurt in that blast, in which a bomb exploded in a restroom and caused flooding and damage to computer tapes containing classified information.
Ayers did not participate in the bombing at the Pentagon but admitted to involvement in other blasts. He is now a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago and a community activist who lives in Obama's Chicago neighborhood. Obama has said they have had cursory interactions over the years, including serving on the same board.
Clark Stevens, an Obama spokesman, said Frederick's attack on Obama's relationship with Ayers "has been discredited and debunked time and again."
"The Chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia, like so many McCain supporters," Stevens said, "would rather lie about Barack Obama than make the case to the American people why Senator McCain's plans of continuing Bush's policies for another four years would be good for American families."
Gail Gitcho, a McCain spokeswoman, also denounced Frederick's remarks, calling them "not appropriate."
"While Barack Obama is associated with domestic terrorist William Ayers, the McCain campaign disagrees with the comparison that Jeff Frederick made," Gitcho said.
It was the third time in a little more than a week that Gitcho repudiated something said or written by someone affiliated with McCain's Virginia leadership team. Last week, the head of the McCain campaign in Buchanan County in southwest Virginia was forced to resign after a column surfaced in which he made disparaging remarks about Obama, African Americans and gay people. Last weekend, the McCain campaign distanced itself from McCain's brother, Joe McCain, after he referred to Alexandria and Arlington County as "communist country."
Joe McCain apologized, saying he was trying to make a joke. But Frederick is not sorry.
"It is just the hard facts. It's terrible that it can be said, but it can," Frederick said. "It's shocking. Here is a guy who is one step away from the presidency, who is one step away from being commander in chief, who has a friend who bombed the Pentagon. It's just shocking to me." He added, "And there is no denying that Osama bin Laden had a role in bombing the Pentagon."
Ayers once hosted a gathering for Obama when the candidate first ran for the Illinois state Senate in 1995. The two also served together on a nonprofit board that distributed educational grants in the city.
Obama has denounced Ayers's actions in the 1960s and 1970s and describes him as "a guy who lives in my neighborhood."
The independent group PolitiFact.com has called the GOP attacks on Obama for serving on the same board as Ayers "malicious."
"It unfairly tars not just Obama, but all the other prominent, well-respected Chicagoans who also volunteered their time to the foundation," PolitiFact wrote.
James E. Hyland, chairman of the Fairfax County Republican Committee, said he thinks that the GOP efforts to link Obama to Ayers could backfire.
"I don't think the associations with Ayers is going to work in Fairfax," Hyland said. "What we are looking for up here is answers on the economy, experience and impact of [McCain's and Obama's] policies on the federal workforce."
But Frederick said he will continue to speak about Obama's ties to Ayers. "This man simply is not ready to lead," Frederick said of Obama.
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the_mortgage_guy
1178 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 08:07:01 AM
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Originally posted by cspatmon
mortgageguy, you can't be this dense....how long are you going to keep your head in the sand and pretend the real world hasn't moved on......that same tired rhetoric...not working!
Wow, the screeaching is getting so loud, noone even knows who is shouting at who, lol!
Anyways, I simply asked you if you disown any of the facts or statements made about Obama and the cast that he has worked with and asscociated with over the last 20 years. I keep asking this as you have yet to answer. I have made attempts of asking on policies but you respond with even wose drivel than this. I am trying to understand where you are coming from but is very difficult when you don't answer the question and you rewind to the same post every time. |
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Mandyvilla
3405 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 08:17:27 AM
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Mortgage Guy - I am glad you picked up where I left off, because I never could get anyone to accept ownership of any of the facts presented to the Obama supporters. (And this is while we took ownership of statements made of McCain).
I suspect ownership cannot be taken because then there is no defense for the his actions once the truth is acknowledged.
The response is invariably a reply with poll stats or a slogan chant.
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