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seaRick1

834 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  5:32:10 PM
I saw this on cnnmoney.com - pretty good comparison on McCain/Obama's tax policies, etc. What do you think?

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/05/news/economy/mccain_claim_spending/index.htm?postversion=2008090514
LoanPro71

4282 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  6:30:12 PM
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toddblue

4296 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  6:39:36 PM
Here's a problem with the thinking in this article. Tax cuts do not cost the government a single penny. Leaving money in my pocket that I have earned is not a government expense. Why don't people get this?

LoanPro71

4282 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  6:50:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by toddblue

Here's a problem with the thinking in this article. Tax cuts do not cost the government a single penny. Leaving money in my pocket that I have earned is not a government expense. Why don't people get this?





Because they haven't spent much time thinking about it. And to be honest, most people don't care.

You're a Libertarian ... which means you're a THINKER.

Most people aren't Thinkers, and most people don't really care enough to invest the time required to understand the issues.

Sad but true.








SoCalRay

2698 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  6:55:17 PM
this article compares their economic plan side by side

Both are good and let you decide - No So called Liberal Bias

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/news/0806/gallery.election_issues/index.html

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toddblue

4296 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  7:12:14 PM
I went through each item listed and confirmed what I already thought. McCain is a little more conservative and free market based in his solutions. Obama wants to control things through more government intervention. It's amazing when seen side-by-side how little they differ on the selected issues.

I did not see the 2nd Amendment, abortion, or other lightning rod issues compared.

Neither of the candidates have earned my vote. I see McCain as slightly being the lesser of the two evils. I am now more convinced to vote Libertarian after reading this article. The issues I am most concerned with are not addressed at any time by the Dem's, or the GOP.


quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay

this article compares their economic plan side by side

Both are good and let you decide - No So called Liberal Bias

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/news/0806/gallery.election_issues/index.html



LoanPro71

4282 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  7:24:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by toddblue

The issues I am most concerned with are not addressed at any time by the Dem's, or the GOP.



I'm right there with you.

As you probably already know.

Looks like Libertarian for me ... or maybe Constitution Party. Not sure yet.







homebroker@sbcgl

7249 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  8:20:25 PM
Exactly like cutting your YSP to 1/2% from 1% because of a negative change in pricing, this is not an expense!

quote:
Originally posted by toddblue

Here's a problem with the thinking in this article. Tax cuts do not cost the government a single penny. Leaving money in my pocket that I have earned is not a government expense. Why don't people get this?



TheFinancier

1437 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  8:21:43 PM
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toddblue

4296 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  8:31:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by LoanPro71

quote:
Originally posted by toddblue

The issues I am most concerned with are not addressed at any time by the Dem's, or the GOP.



I'm right there with you.

As you probably already know.

Looks like Libertarian for me ... or maybe Constitution Party. Not sure yet.





I like the Constitution Parties platform, except fot their specific inclusion of Jesus throughout. I am a believer, but the specific mention of Christianity as a basis of the party over other religions is too close to crossing the line.


LoanPro71

4282 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  8:49:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by toddblue

quote:
Originally posted by LoanPro71

quote:
Originally posted by toddblue

The issues I am most concerned with are not addressed at any time by the Dem's, or the GOP.



I'm right there with you.

As you probably already know.

Looks like Libertarian for me ... or maybe Constitution Party. Not sure yet.





I like the Constitution Parties platform, except fot their specific inclusion of Jesus throughout. I am a believer, but the specific mention of Christianity as a basis of the party over other religions is too close to crossing the line.




We're completely on the same page. That's exactly the same reason I have my reservations with the Constitution Party. Way too much thumping going on, and not enough focus on the basics.

Libertarian it is ... I supppose.... even though I'm not too thrilled with Barr.

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toddblue

4296 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  8:54:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by LoanPro71

quote:
Originally posted by toddblue

quote:
Originally posted by LoanPro71

quote:
Originally posted by toddblue

The issues I am most concerned with are not addressed at any time by the Dem's, or the GOP.



I'm right there with you.

As you probably already know.

Looks like Libertarian for me ... or maybe Constitution Party. Not sure yet.





I like the Constitution Parties platform, except fot their specific inclusion of Jesus throughout. I am a believer, but the specific mention of Christianity as a basis of the party over other religions is too close to crossing the line.




We're completely on the same page. That's exactly the same reason I have my reservations with the Constitution Party. Way too much thumping going on, and not enough focus on the basics.

Libertarian it is ... I supppose.... even though I'm not too thrilled with Barr.





Only if we could get RP back into the fold.
SoCalRay

2698 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  8:56:51 PM
Ron Paul with Jesse Ventura

Now that would be a ticket
LoanPro71

4282 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  8:58:16 PM
I know.

Can you imagine RP in a two hour "Town Hall" setting with those other two knuckleheads with equal time allocated to the three of them?

I would pay big money to see that happen.

LoanPro71

4282 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  9:01:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay

Ron Paul with Jesse Ventura

Now that would be a ticket



It's funny you say that ... because I just now received this message in my email ... check this out.

-----

Ron Paul to Make Major Announcement Next Week

Friends,

Dr. Paul just authorized me to send this press release to the national wire. Stay tuned!


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Jesse Benton
September 5, 2008

ALEXANDRIA, VIRGINIA – On the heels of his historic three-day rally in Minneapolis that drew over 12,000 attendees, Congressman Ron Paul will make a major announcement next week in Washington at the National Press Club.

More details will be announced Monday.


link.... http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=456

SoCalRay

2698 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  9:08:31 PM
You know Jesse was at the RP Rally?
LoanPro71

4282 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  9:09:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay

You know Jesse was at the RP Rally?



I know ... are you thinking what I'm thinking ????

SoCalRay

2698 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  9:18:10 PM
I am thinking the Fannie Freddie item is going to diminish Palin and politics on Monday

So it would be a good time to annouce something

It is 60 days left from today
LoanPro71

4282 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  9:19:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay

I am thinking the Fannie Freddie item is going to diminish Palin and politics on Monday

So it would be a good time to annouce something

It is 60 days left from today



Well, here's what I was thinking.

Paul / Ventura .... Independent.

And they would win the election if the press covered them.



SoCalRay

2698 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  9:27:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by LoanPro71

quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay

I am thinking the Fannie Freddie item is going to diminish Palin and politics on Monday

So it would be a good time to annouce something

It is 60 days left from today



Well, here's what I was thinking.

Paul / Ventura .... Independent.

And they would win the election if the press covered them.







The press is available because the GOP does not want them to interview Palin

That is a bad move

Jesse would go where no other candidate could go

MTV

ESPN

WWE - Imagine hime going to every monday night WWE even for 2 months - Vince McMahon is such a media Wh*re. HE would make it happen

Arnold would probably back

RP could possibly talk Blomberg and Trump to back him

LoanPro71

4282 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  9:29:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay

quote:
Originally posted by LoanPro71

quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay

I am thinking the Fannie Freddie item is going to diminish Palin and politics on Monday

So it would be a good time to annouce something

It is 60 days left from today



Well, here's what I was thinking.

Paul / Ventura .... Independent.

And they would win the election if the press covered them.







The press is available because the GOP does not want them to interview Palin

That is a bad move

Jesse would go where no other candidate could go

MTV

ESPN

WWE - Imagine hime going to every monday night WWE even for 2 months - Vince McMahon is such a media Wh*re. HE would make it happen

Arnold would probably back

RP could possibly talk Blomberg and Trump to back him





Yeah ... they'd be unstoppable.

We can dream can't we ?

SoCalRay

2698 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  9:32:21 PM
Even if he were able to get into the debates would be great

He would be the one talking about issues that are not getting talked about

SoCalRay

2698 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  9:57:44 PM
And I do not think someone in a RP campaign would mistaken Walter Reed Middle School for Walter Reed Medical Center

Sixth-grader Joshua Popue offered the explanation most commonly being floated Friday both at the Irvine Avenue campus and in political circles: Somebody in the McCain campaign mistook Walter Reed Middle School for the military's troubled Walter Reed Army Medical Center when preparing the Republicans' high-tech video background wall.

"McCain messed up. He was talking about Walter Reed hospital, and he used our picture by mistake," said 11-year-old Joshua. Skyla Swafford, 12, took a more charitable view. "They picked us because our school is one of the nicer schools in the city. They keep it clean and sanitary," the seventh-grader suggested.
LoanPro71

4282 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2008 :  05:18:54 AM
quote:
Originally posted by SoCalRay

And I do not think someone in a RP campaign would mistaken Walter Reed Middle School for Walter Reed Medical Center

Sixth-grader Joshua Popue offered the explanation most commonly being floated Friday both at the Irvine Avenue campus and in political circles: Somebody in the McCain campaign mistook Walter Reed Middle School for the military's troubled Walter Reed Army Medical Center when preparing the Republicans' high-tech video background wall.

"McCain messed up. He was talking about Walter Reed hospital, and he used our picture by mistake," said 11-year-old Joshua. Skyla Swafford, 12, took a more charitable view. "They picked us because our school is one of the nicer schools in the city. They keep it clean and sanitary," the seventh-grader suggested.




No kidding? That's sad.

I haven't heard about that one yet.

Do you have a link?


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