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Mandyvilla

3453 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2008 :  6:27:00 PM
psyche!

I need an appraisal in St. John's County Florida. Can anyone recommend someone? I have someone's name I used in that area two years ago and I am trying to dig up that info, lol, it's somewhere (AF member - Frank someone?....off to look). Purchase transaction, prefer someone that can handle a Mastercard payment to expedite order, looking for 1 week turn time +/-.

I have had to disable my personal email from this site, but will subscribe to this thread in case of responses.

Thanks...

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mortgagemessiah

8003 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2008 :  6:33:07 PM
Call Pam Crowley
financeone

1646 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2008 :  6:34:02 PM
LOL!!

quote:
Originally posted by mortgagemessiah

Call Pam Crowley

CoolMtgGuy

3710 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2008 :  6:35:59 PM
Let me know if you still need an appraiser's name in St. Johns County FL. I live in St. Johns County and will get one for you.

HMDApproved

694 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2008 :  6:36:29 PM
Call "Fat Slob Rob"
Mandyvilla

3453 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2008 :  6:47:27 PM
I think Pam prefers to work with brokers. Also, we are Federal Banker Trash, so we may have trouble finding appraisers willing to take on our order.

Coolmtgguy, I may be in touch...let's see if anyone from here steps up.

Long day, early night...
kjdv

700 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2008 :  11:20:34 PM
I can do it for you, well pull comps that is. Call or email me with address! You can look over comps yourself!
David Wimpelberg

120 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  04:51:08 AM
Don't call me!
johnnyboy38109

3064 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  08:28:14 AM
I am sure you already knew this, but

http://www.appraisers.com/usa/florida/saint_johns/
Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  11:46:59 AM
From the appraisers.com listings..

quote:
Wilson & Associates
Matthew Wilson
76243 Long Leaf Loop
Yulee, Florida 32097

Fast Accurate Service. Rush Service Available. We notify the loan officer if research does not support his or the client's value before doing the appraisal or scheduling the inspection. Serving Nassau, Duval, St. Johns & Clay county.


These are the type of unprofessional idiots that need to be weeded out of the business.

GBoneske

126 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  12:17:30 PM
Certified Associated Appraisers of Florida
Ruben Gonzalez
28700 Falling Leaves Way
Wesley Chapel, Florida 33543
813 973-8333
813 315-6145
We provide fast turnaround time on residential properties. All Appraisers are State Licensed and certified, E&O Insured. Professional, Quality Reports -- EDI capable. For your convenience - 2nd Office line 813 562-5526. Serving 29 counties in Florida.


Mandy, when I was actively in Florida I used this company A TON. They are quick and very professional.

**edited because I can't spell worth anything today.
johnnyboy38109

3064 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  12:33:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopland

From the appraisers.com listings..

quote:
Wilson & Associates
Matthew Wilson
76243 Long Leaf Loop
Yulee, Florida 32097

Fast Accurate Service. Rush Service Available. We notify the loan officer if research does not support his or the client's value before doing the appraisal or scheduling the inspection. Serving Nassau, Duval, St. Johns & Clay county.


These are the type of unprofessional idiots that need to be weeded out of the business.





And, as usual, that's the only song in your hymnal.
Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  12:44:18 PM
No it's not. I try to be helpful on the outpost by answering appraisal related questions, posting links to references, discussing manufactured home issues, FHA issues, appraiser/lender business issues. I joke around, I post in off topic threads, I flirt with Kathi in some posts and insult her in other posts.

I'm almost always respectful to outpost members. I don't spout unsupported opinions. I don't try to tell brokers how to do their job... I just try to tell them how appraisers are SUPPOSED to do THEIR jobs.

Mandyvilla

3453 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  12:46:35 PM
Thanks GBoneske!

That is EXACTLY what I was looking for.....someone familiar w/ the appraiser or company. It's possible this is a one shot deal, but I'll be working both sides of the transaction. I have always done better w/ a peer recommendation, than an online search, or, heaven forbid, go with the real estate agent's recommendation.
johnnyboy38109

3064 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:15:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopland

No it's not. I try to be helpful on the outpost by answering appraisal related questions, posting links to references, discussing manufactured home issues, FHA issues, appraiser/lender business issues. I joke around, I post in off topic threads, I flirt with Kathi in some posts and insult her in other posts.

I'm almost always respectful to outpost members. I don't spout unsupported opinions. I don't try to tell brokers how to do their job... I just try to tell them how appraisers are SUPPOSED to do THEIR jobs.





I am sure other appraisers for obvious reasons aren't interested in your telling them how to do their jobs.

I am slso sure the overwhelming majority of posters here care not one whit about your unsolicited compulsion to tell other appraisers how to do their jobs.
HMDApproved

694 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:24:26 PM
Looks like another catfight between appraisers and L/o's is brewing here...

Now, Now children, play nice....
Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:24:51 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
HMDApproved

694 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:25:33 PM
Looks like another catfight between appraisers and L/o's is brewing here...

Now, Now children, play nice....
HMDApproved

694 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:26:41 PM
Looks like another catfight between appraisers and L/o's is brewing here...

Now, Now children, play nice....
Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:27:23 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Some appraisers NEED to be told how they are supposed to do it. Honest and ethical appraisers are sick and tired of being betrayed by their "colleagues."

Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:29:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by HMDApproved

Looks like another catfight between appraisers and L/o's is brewing here...

Now, Now children, play nice....



Not on my part. I'm burned out on comp check wars. My post about the Florida appraiser was not a comp check issue. It was an issue of sleazy appraisal practice.
johnnyboy38109

3064 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:37:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopland

quote:
Originally posted by HMDApproved

Looks like another catfight between appraisers and L/o's is brewing here...

Now, Now children, play nice....



Not on my part. I'm burned out on comp check wars. My post about the Florida appraiser was not a comp check issue. It was an issue of sleazy appraisal practice.




We all know you have RADAR for comp check threads.
Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:40:56 PM
quote:
We all know you have RADAR for comp check threads.


It's an appraisal issue. I'm an appraiser. I usually stick to topics on the BO which relate to appraisal issues.

I kept the explanation simple so you could follow along.
GBoneske

126 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:47:19 PM
No problem Mandy. I have used that company all over Florida. :)
johnnyboy38109

3064 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:52:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopland

quote:
We all know you have RADAR for comp check threads.


It's an appraisal issue. I'm an appraiser. I usually stick to topics on the BO which relate to appraisal issues.

I kept the explanation simple so you could follow along.



What you do is patrol the Outpost looking for comp check threads like a spastic teenager.
Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  1:57:22 PM
That's simply not accurate Mr. Fowler. In fact, I'm one of the few appraisers who post here that doesn't obsess about "comp checks" and the first that ever posted that a comp check is not "illegal."

I "patrol" the outpost looking for interesting topics, discussions, humor and entertainment when I'm bored or just need a few minutes distraction from a stressful or tedious assignment.

You're just bitter because I mocked one of your posts a few weeks ago. And I only mock those who post strong opinions without anything to support their viewpoint.
GBoneske

126 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  2:03:43 PM
guys can't you just call it a day and let it drop?
Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  2:07:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by GBoneske

guys can't you just call it a day and let it drop?



Let what drop?

johnnyboy38109

3064 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  2:08:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopland

That's simply not accurate Mr. Fowler. In fact, I'm one of the few appraisers who post here that doesn't obsess about "comp checks" and the first that ever posted that a comp check is not "illegal."

I "patrol" the outpost looking for interesting topics, discussions, humor and entertainment when I'm bored or just need a few minutes distraction from a stressful or tedious assignment.

You're just bitter because I mocked one of your posts a few weeks ago. And I only mock those who post strong opinions without anything to support their viewpoint.



Some things in life do concern me. Believe me when I tell you that your responses to anything I write do not. Self-actualization permits that perspective.
Mandyvilla

3453 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  2:15:14 PM
LOL, the title was deliberate, I admit. If anything to get feedback from BO members and appraisers for recommendations.
Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  2:26:50 PM
Sorry Mandy. Didn't mean to get your thread off topic. And before I even clicked the link I new you were just being funny. But someone posted a link to the appraisers.com listing of Florida appraisers and that guys listing just jumped out.

I'll leave Mr. Fowler alone now so he can get back to self-actualizing himself.
Scrooge McDuck

8846 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  2:55:51 PM
is telling other appraisers how to do their job anything like telling other posters on this forum how to post, whats professional and whats immature?

i think hopland added a passionate appraiser's perspective on the people mandy may have chosen from the link given.

good link too btw.
Mandyvilla

3453 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  3:01:10 PM
oh, no issues from this side of the world. I find it fascinating someone would just order blind without asking a couple of questions first. And I am not talking about questions on value....

I am now debating if I want to use someone that subcontracts their work out....I can think of a couple of pros and cons.....
Scrooge McDuck

8846 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  3:03:17 PM
what is a pro of using someone who subcontracts thier work out?
Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  3:03:31 PM
Despite how I and some appraiser's seem to come off on the outpost our main gripe is with other appraisers. Brokers can't be blamed for our problems, even though brokers are a primary force in bringing it about.

Look for this story which should be published tomorrow...

quote:
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- As soaring home prices set the stage for America's great housing meltdown, a critical step in making sure those home sales were a fair deal -- the real estate appraisal -- was undermined from within.

After the nation's last major banking disaster, Congress set up a system to catch rogue appraisers. Their game: inflating the value of homes at the direction of equally unscrupulous real estate agents and mortgage brokers, whose commissions are determined by the size of the deals.

But a six-month Associated Press investigation found that the system is crippled by both the bumbling of its policemen and their inability to effectively punish those caught committing fraud.

And despite ample evidence appraisers are pressured into inflating home values -- sometimes to prices in support of loans that are more than buyers can afford -- the federal regulators charged with protecting consumers have thus far made a conscious choice not to act.

....


Mandyvilla

3453 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  3:05:16 PM
oh, no issues from this side of the world. I find it fascinating someone would just order blind without asking a couple of questions first. And I am not talking about questions on value....

I am now debating if I want to use someone that subcontracts their work out....I can think of a couple of pros and cons.....

The guy I am trying to recall in Florida, his name was something like Francis Francis (okay, I know, but that's what I recall), he went by Frank, grey hair, lol. oh, maybe I should check the various chapters of associations out there - I want to say he was a prez or past prez.....i am pretty sure he was an instructor.....arggggh. I backed up my computer before it crashed, but where did I put that external hard drive???
Mandyvilla

3453 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  3:06:46 PM
here is one link you want before placing an order:

http://www.asc.gov/default.aspx
Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  3:07:46 PM
Francois K. Gregoire?
Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  3:10:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mandyvilla

here is one link you want before placing an order:

http://www.asc.gov/default.aspx



Once there, use the link in the upper left named "National Registry." On the page that comes up Select the link called "Custom Query" That will take you to a search page. Use the blank fields to find an appraiser by name, or license level, or area.
williamspeaking

4058 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  7:52:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by johnnyboy38109

quote:
Originally posted by Hopland

quote:
We all know you have RADAR for comp check threads.


It's an appraisal issue. I'm an appraiser. I usually stick to topics on the BO which relate to appraisal issues.

I kept the explanation simple so you could follow along.



What you do is patrol the Outpost looking for comp check threads like a spastic teenager.



Though I'm not a fan of your usual posts, this one is amazing :)
Mandyvilla

3453 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  8:50:39 PM
Yeppers Hopland! OMG, that name has been dodging me all weekend! Say no more, great guy, great appraiser. I am off to find his site.....He did some work for me at First Horizon.
Mandyvilla

3453 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  8:59:01 PM
okay, I am geographically challenged.....I thought he was east coast, not bay side....but, this is worth an email. Most good appraisers only know good appraisers. I'll have to catch him on the work email. But thanks! That's been driving me nuts, like trying to remember a song, or a band from the past...you can kind of hum the tune/words, but not quite......but if you give enough detail out, someone will know it.
powwow

385 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  9:17:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by johnnyboy38109

quote:
Originally posted by Hopland

No it's not. I try to be helpful on the outpost by answering appraisal related questions, posting links to references, discussing manufactured home issues, FHA issues, appraiser/lender business issues. I joke around, I post in off topic threads, I flirt with Kathi in some posts and insult her in other posts.

I'm almost always respectful to outpost members. I don't spout unsupported opinions. I don't try to tell brokers how to do their job... I just try to tell them how appraisers are SUPPOSED to do THEIR jobs.





I am sure other appraisers for obvious reasons aren't interested in your telling them how to do their jobs.

I am slso sure the overwhelming majority of posters here care not one whit about your unsolicited compulsion to tell other appraisers how to do their jobs.



Your reply doesn't suprise me one whit. Some of you guys don't want to hear anything that is out of sync with your limited view. Still doesn't mean it doesn't need to be said.
ritabradley01

3228 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  10:08:56 PM
Good work Hopland. See John he's helping out again. As you do from time to time.
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bestbet123

1577 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2008 :  11:59:53 PM
LMAO......that's was funny , thanks hoppy.
quote:
Originally posted by Hopland

Sorry Mandy. Didn't mean to get your thread off topic. And before I even clicked the link I new you were just being funny. But someone posted a link to the appraisers.com listing of Florida appraisers and that guys listing just jumped out.

I'll leave Mr. Fowler alone now so he can get back to self-actualizing himself.

Hopland

2089 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2008 :  10:45:59 AM
Mr. Gregoire is a great appraiser and a distinguished professional in the real estate industry. He is a pst chair of the NAR's Appraisal Committee and the chair of FREAB (Florida Real Estate Appraisal Board). Here is a one of many articles he has written for a number of publications.


quote:
Oh no! It’s low! - What To Do When The Appraisal Is "Short"

You’ve done everything right. You found your clients the perfect home. True, the property is at the high end of their price range. True, they offered almost full list price after having already lost out on two other homes. Now all your clients need is the mortgage, and the deal is done. But when the appraisal comes in, the valuation is low. What can you do legally and ethically to resolve the situation and not just watch your clients’ perfect home go to someone else? Francois K. Gregoire's article published in the June issue of Realtor Magazine Online : Oh no! It’s low! has some suggestions: You never want to demand or coerce an appraiser to revise the appraisal. There must be a reason for the appraiser to reconsider an opinion of value other than “This is what we need to get the deal through.” However, there are ways to approach a low-appraisal situation that are both legal and likely to produce results. Focus on the facts. Facts, not emotion, will pique an appraiser’s interest. If you have data not available to the appraiser through standard sources, such as the MLS or county tax rolls, you may be able to grab the appraiser’s attention and possibly affect a revision in the appraiser’s opinions or conclusions. Have the details ready. If there are issues you want to bring to an appraiser’s attention, they must be supported by facts, not anecdotes or rumors. An unsupported statement such as “prices have appreciated by 10 percent in this area over the past 60 days” isn’t likely to get an appraiser’s attention. . Present real comparables to support your arguments. Recent sales similar to the property under contract, that appeal to the same market segment, and that are in the same or a similar location are comparables. Other properties are merely sales. Also remember that an appraiser is required to make adjustments to a comp’s price based on differences with the subject property. Adjustments can occur because of changes in market demand, physical differences in properties, or a location’s desirability. You can assist the appraiser by providing all details about the sale and about comps that closely match the property. Remember who the appraiser is working for. An appraiser’s responsibility is to the lender—not to the borrower, the seller, the listing agent, or the selling agent. If your client has an issue with an appraisal, contact the appraiser’s client (the bank) to see if that client will authorize the appraiser to discuss aspects of the assignment. Continuous calls to the appraiser issuing overt or covert threats won’t advance your cause.
"Appraisers aren’t perfect, but they have everything to gain by being thorough, accurate, and honest. Encouraging an appraiser to engage in illegal activity in this era of widespread mortgage fraud could lead to a sanction against you and even to criminal prosecution for you and the appraiser. No transaction is worth that."
Gregoire, RAA, is president of Gregoire & Gregoire Inc. in St. Petersburg, Fla. He’s a past chair of the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS® Appraisal Committee and chairman of the Florida Real Estate Appraisal Board. You can reach him at


http://ourappraisal.blogspot.com/2006/05/oh-no-its-low-what-to-do-when.html
LeeLansford

148 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2008 :  5:23:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopland

From the appraisers.com listings..

quote:
Wilson & Associates
Matthew Wilson
76243 Long Leaf Loop
Yulee, Florida 32097

Fast Accurate Service. Rush Service Available. We notify the loan officer if research does not support his or the client's value before doing the appraisal or scheduling the inspection. Serving Nassau, Duval, St. Johns & Clay county.



One more appraiser that we don't need.

I wonder if the regulatory agency that oversees the appraiser's license might have interest in his advertising? As in "...notify the loan officer..." why, exactly?





LeeLansford

148 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2008 :  7:24:25 PM
I know one way to put an end to the probem: No request for an appraisal for use in residential lending should include a request for a minimum value. Request the appraisal and let the chips fall where they may.

Everyone in on this?
lgruey

635 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2008 :  7:38:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopland

quote:
We all know you have RADAR for comp check threads.


It's an appraisal issue. I'm an appraiser. I usually stick to topics on the BO which relate to appraisal issues.

I kept the explanation simple so you could follow along.



Hopland,

He doesn't care and he doesn't listen. The only thing you have to do to be a problem on here with him is be an appraiser and post. I don't get what his problem is, but whatever it is his problem. You do contribute a lot on here.
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bestbet123

1577 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2008 :  7:42:51 PM
How do we get overvaluation of a property anyway?I'll tell you,it's realtors...they are the ones who have first crack at the assumption of value.Why is it that noone understands this?I just read a thread not too long ago about how realtors have been taken out of this mess and givin a pass.WHY???????They are the ones who set the selling price of a home.How can it be that IDENTICAL houses in the same neighborhood have completely different values?Why even put a number on your request for an appraisal anyway,isn't it illegal to do so?Someone in the realtor world has some serious power to get them exonerated from all this overinflation of value.It really is who you know and not what you know.
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLansford

I know one way to put an end to the probem: No request for an appraisal for use in residential lending should include a request for a minimum value. Request the appraisal and let the chips fall where they may.

Everyone in on this?

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bestbet123

1577 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2008 :  7:51:35 PM
Greg,
I agree that johnnyboy is a jackass.I will battle with him tonight and then when i can't win with a war of words i will begin my excellent trash talking skills.Watch the realtor thread.lol
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