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frank drigotas j
1518 Posts |
 Posted - 08/05/2008 : 1:47:22 PM
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Just a few minutes ago, the Steve vs Moe thread was locked by Admin/forum adminstrator.
Darin shows once in a while to police and offer guidance.
Are we talking one and the same?
Is there a dichotomy?
Are there two mods, or one with two names (which of course would be against BO rules :)
Just curious. There can be twenty mods for all I care.
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MortgageBoarder
4032 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 1:52:10 PM
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My thoughts are IB has a room of 5-10 people who monitor all of their "forum" type sites for regulation. It appears as they are getting pretty intense, deleting most off topic threads and threads that do not promote the wellness of this site & community.
Your BO intelligence thread got deleted, right after my reply which stated "truckloads of BO members are on the lower end". |
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assassin17
4173 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 1:54:59 PM
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I never even got to post my IQ!
I didn't think that was an inflammatory topic. BLEH. |
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financeone
1646 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 1:56:17 PM
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| Yes, please keep your topics and (civil) replies mortgage related. |
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racerx
11454 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 1:57:11 PM
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Darin moderates and IB has moderators. I recall a time when Darin posted something under the ADMIN account (long before he sold BO). I don't know if he is using that account or if he turned it over to someone at IB.
Either way, there are several moderators.
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frank drigotas j
1518 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 1:57:15 PM
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MortgageBoarder,
I think you are right about how IB polices their many sites. I also picture a room full of mods, or revolving mod assignments. Nothing wrong with that. Only that I miss the full time attention of Darin to BO, if indeed he has any role now at all.
Gee, I didn't even notice that the "IQ" thread had been deleted.
The IQs' of mortgage folks here is not worthy of discussion, satire, earnest discourse?
That's kind of strange.
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frank drigotas j
1518 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 1:59:19 PM
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And Assassin17,
You don't have to post your IQ, my friend.
Regards,
dollar
ps. I realize ribbing in a forum can be mistakingly construed as criticism. |
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MisterVA
6634 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:03:35 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by frank drigotas jr
And Assassin17,
You didn't have to post your IQ, my friend.
Regards,
dollar
ps. I realize ribbing in a forum can be mistakingly construed as criticism.
I thought that was part of his user name. |
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WorldWideWayne
2442 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:03:59 PM
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I just posted a thread "delete me"
It got one post and then in 4 min it was deleted...
someone's watching...Yeiks! |
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frank drigotas j
1518 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:06:02 PM
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Censorship run amok.
A newbie mod at IB ?
dollar |
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racerx
11454 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:08:13 PM
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quote:
[i]
A newbie mod at IB ?
At least one of the moderators also moderates other IB forums. |
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bestbet123
1577 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:10:23 PM
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| I beleive they call that suicide by moderator. |
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MortgageBoarder
4032 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:11:16 PM
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| Yah Wayne, gosh, no need to be the big bitter bear of BO!! : P |
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WorldWideWayne
2442 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:19:17 PM
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I don't think I've ever been called a big bitter bear...is that how I look to everyone?
 <tears> |
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MortgageBoarder
4032 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:21:46 PM
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LOL... not at all, I was just giving you a hard time which is why I included the smiley face sticking my tongue out!! You have seemed a bit aggressive lately, but who isn't now a days!
No tears needed, do what you do and who gives a crap what anyone thinks, unless they are writing you a paycheck. |
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MisterVA
6634 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:22:43 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by WorldWideWayne
I don't think I've ever been called a big bitter bear...is that how I look to everyone?
<tears>
Guess I'd opt for big bitter polar bear if I had a choice. |
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WorldWideWayne
2442 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:25:05 PM
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That's OK Justin, you've made me look into the mirror of my soul with your comment and I saw something that I did not like...there is a big bitter beer in me and I need to get rid of it!
Drinks are on me!
<I have been kinda salty lately haven't I> |
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MortgageBoarder
4032 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:35:00 PM
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| I'm only here to help!!! I'll take an Effen & Soda please! |
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ritabradley01
3228 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 2:59:30 PM
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| Ha ha I like your quote Justin! |
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downtime
228 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 3:00:38 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by frank drigotas jr
Just a few minutes ago, the Steve vs Moe thread was locked by Admin/forum adminstrator.
Darin shows once in a while to police and offer guidance.
Are we talking one and the same?
Is there a dichotomy?
Are there two mods, or one with two names (which of course would be against BO rules :)
Just curious. There can be twenty mods for all I care.
dollar
I think you should be moderator Dollar. |
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CoralSnake
10884 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 3:05:23 PM
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| They watch but they dont touch. |
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assassin17
4173 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 3:07:55 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterVA
I thought that was part of his user name.
You never know. You just never know. |
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frank drigotas j
1518 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 3:08:50 PM
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"I think you should be moderator Dollar."
downtime, above
I prefer being powerless. I like to employ words instead.
dollar |
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assassin17
4173 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 3:08:56 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by frank drigotas jr
And Assassin17,
You don't have to post your IQ, my friend.
Regards,
dollar
If I were embarrassed by it, I surely wouldn't.
IQs aren't everything, anyways. |
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MisterVA
6634 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 3:27:20 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by assassin17
quote:
Originally posted by MisterVA
I thought that was part of his user name.
You never know. You just never know.
truncated of course |
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Darin Ferraro
7812 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 3:37:02 PM
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I kick in when there are a ton of complaints on a topic.. for the most part the IB guys have some people overlooking and doing some mods now.
IB does use the Admin account, I simply login with my original account to check on things. |
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MisterVA
6634 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 3:39:21 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Darin Ferraro
I kick in when there are a ton of complaints on a topic.. for the most part the IB guys have some people overlooking and doing some mods now.
IB does use the Admin account, I simply login with my original account to check on things.
Just curious, Darin. When you get to 10,000 posts will you be buying your own lunch? |
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KHufford
6002 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 4:06:37 PM
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If anything, the long term members moderate the others who flirt with the line here for the most part. Bunch of school yard bullies.
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racerx
11454 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 4:25:46 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by KHufford
If anything, the long term members moderate the others who flirt with the line here for the most part. Bunch of school yard bullies.
And the grumpy, anti-social crowd. |
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CoralSnake
10884 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 4:34:11 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterVA
quote:
Originally posted by Darin Ferraro
I kick in when there are a ton of complaints on a topic.. for the most part the IB guys have some people overlooking and doing some mods now.
IB does use the Admin account, I simply login with my original account to check on things.
Just curious, Darin. When you get to 10,000 posts will you be buying your own lunch?
Its Dinner and its delicious! |
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racerx
11454 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 4:53:20 PM
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So when are we going to Vegas so we can pay our 10,000 post debt together?
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Originally posted by CoralSnake
quote:
Originally posted by MisterVA
quote:
Originally posted by Darin Ferraro
I kick in when there are a ton of complaints on a topic.. for the most part the IB guys have some people overlooking and doing some mods now.
IB does use the Admin account, I simply login with my original account to check on things.
Just curious, Darin. When you get to 10,000 posts will you be buying your own lunch?
Its Dinner and its delicious!
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toddblue
2397 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 5:28:21 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterVA
quote:
Originally posted by Darin Ferraro
I kick in when there are a ton of complaints on a topic.. for the most part the IB guys have some people overlooking and doing some mods now.
IB does use the Admin account, I simply login with my original account to check on things.
Just curious, Darin. When you get to 10,000 posts will you be buying your own lunch?
I believe he has to buy all the Premium Members a Happy Meal! |
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raymondb
4181 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 5:29:59 PM
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| Jen, If your coming to vegas, drinks on me! I remember the last Bo meet and greet! We had a nice steak dinner at FIX! Best part was....it was on Darin! thanks again D! |
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Scrooge McDuck
8851 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 5:34:22 PM
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ray,
when it comes to free alcohol offers, i learned a long time ago that you have to be very very careful, and offer strict guidelines. i have watched my crew jam a company credit card for 10gs at a bar, just cause they could. |
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johnnyboy38109
3064 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 5:34:50 PM
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Hopefully the moderator is gaining an appreciation for just how far this once-might forum has fallen, and will help in elevating it to its previous status.
It was once an on-topic, literal discussion forum free of the childishness that permeates it today. Too many members with too many screen names, and way too many that have nothing, literally nothing, to offer other than juvenile comments and down-in-the-moutn forecasts.
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raymondb
4181 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 6:13:25 PM
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WOAH! I hope that was a good time! Better yet I hope the owner had a good time! lol
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Originally posted by Scrooge McDuck
ray,
when it comes to free alcohol offers, i learned a long time ago that you have to be very very careful, and offer strict guidelines. i have watched my crew jam a company credit card for 10gs at a bar, just cause they could.
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raymondb
4181 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 6:14:51 PM
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On a serious note I agree with Johnny 100%. But it seems like it has been watched a little more closely lately. 
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Originally posted by johnnyboy38109
Hopefully the moderator is gaining an appreciation for just how far this once-might forum has fallen, and will help in elevating it to its previous status.
It was once an on-topic, literal discussion forum free of the childishness that permeates it today. Too many members with too many screen names, and way too many that have nothing, literally nothing, to offer other than juvenile comments and down-in-the-moutn forecasts.
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Scrooge McDuck
8851 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 6:22:02 PM
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i disagree w johnnie. when there were 10 million actual scenario postings flying by, there was still plenty of drama, plenty of goofing off, and plenty of bull****ting going on.
things are just much slower. the membership is dwindling. the goofy stuff just stands out more. |
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raymondb
4181 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 6:25:05 PM
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valid point too. however i do think there are way BIGGER disagreements as new industries unfold before us. Very competitive out here from what I see.
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Originally posted by Scrooge McDuck
i disagree w johnnie. when there were 10 million actual scenario postings flying by, there was still plenty of drama, plenty of goofing off, and plenty of bull****ting going on.
things are just much slower. the membership is dwindling. the goofy stuff just stands out more.
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bestbet123
1577 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 7:25:41 PM
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| You are all wise beyond your years.....except Frank,he's beyond his wise years. |
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assassin17
4173 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 7:27:58 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by racerx
quote:
Originally posted by KHufford
If anything, the long term members moderate the others who flirt with the line here for the most part. Bunch of school yard bullies.
And the grumpy, anti-social crowd.
And the fat kids. |
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slants
4274 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 7:32:58 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by johnnyboy38109
Hopefully the moderator is gaining an appreciation for just how far this once-might forum has fallen, and will help in elevating it to its previous status.
It was once an on-topic, literal discussion forum free of the childishness that permeates it today. Too many members with too many screen names, and way too many that have nothing, literally nothing, to offer other than juvenile comments and down-in-the-moutn forecasts.
Completely accurate assessment. Aside from the disagreements, there are those who hang out on this forum day in and day out with nothing to offer and apparently having nothing of use to do in life other than to use this as a free access pulpit to expound on their personal views, disparage and pass judgment on others since this is the only audience they can find who cannot refuse their presence. It's as if the fact that they haven't been asked to leave for coming back and creating multiple accounts after being banned somehow has them confused that they are imbued with an omnipotent status. These arrogant nuts are self deluded to believe that in their superiority others here actually look for their approval and permission to think as individuals with their own opinions and the right to participate as members here. I also look forward to the forum rules actually being enforced someday so that these useless distractions from the mortgage industry will be eliminated from BO. |
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frank drigotas j
1518 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 7:53:37 PM
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Slants,
The discerning reader will realize that you just defined yourself, almost point for point.
The question of this topic is "who is moderating BO."
I think Darin answered it quite clearly.
And I think that most of us in this thread have enjoyed the exchanges along the way. I have come to learn that among other things, there is a bit of fellowship on BO. We certainly do not all agree, but that is ok.
Your rush to the podium is ...
Aw, it is not worth arguing about.
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assassin17
4173 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 7:55:14 PM
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I disagree. If you limit this forum strictly to the "Who Can Do This One..." crowd and don't allow for some variety, this forum would die within a year from sheer boredom. As stated earlier, it has always had it's entertainment value, which was just lost in the shuffle of duplicated scenario posts.
Do you think the popularity of BO was built upon one big 'company meeting' of mortgage professionals or the fact that all sorts of new ideas can crop up here?
No matter how wild they may seem, if you limit these discussions to "work-related only", people are simply going to leave here and go back to work, or find another forum that is less-restrictive. Nobody comes here for the multitude of Announcements or vendors, I guarantee you.
In fact, this forum needs to be a slight breather from the workday and provide some sort of release or entertainment value. Otherwise, this is not a forum and is merely a research web-site. The library is not exactly exciting, which is why the internet is quickly replacing them.
You also lose the chance that somehow, some way, these off-topics will flow on topic and reveal something previously unknown. Just the mere chance of that happening makes it worthwhile. What you are advocating is to muzzle people you don't care for, which is the exact opposite goal of a community get-together.
It's not going to be fun if there are only 5 people sitting around discussing nothing but the same thing every day. Maybe this place isn't for 'fun', but some concessions have to be made if you expect a large group of people with different personal interests to visit your site and converse with one another. Sure, you can have less arguments with less people, but I don't know any web site with advertisers that wants less people. That's a pretty idiotic goal.
I don't come here to pump up my 'mortgage libido', I come here because the people can, at times, be fascinating. There is nothing wrong with this forum except for it's lack of variety in separating areas for topics, which by the way would achieve the goals of people on both sides of this issue.
I like to keep up with the mortgage biz, but I'm not willing to fall asleep while doing it. But if they'd rather make it a graveyard, so be it. |
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slants
4274 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 8:05:09 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by frank drigotas jr
Slants,
The discerning reader will realize that you just defined yourself, almost point for point.
The question of this topic is "who is moderating BO."
I think Darin answered it quite clearly.
Your rush to the podium is ...
Aw, it is not worth arguing about.
dollar
There you go underestimating readers' discernment. Any discerning reader can conclude I wasn't referring to myself. I don't have multiple accounts nor have I ever been banned. I contribute useful information all day, everyday, in fact just a few minutes ago unlike someone whom posters in this very thread have been referencing, but you are right, individuals like this are completely not worth arguing about which was the whole point of my post.
Love bestbet's line: "You are all wise beyond your years.....except Frank,he's beyond his wise years." |
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frank drigotas j
1518 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 8:08:20 PM
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So, you dislike me on a personal level.
And you feel you are a major benefit to BO.
Anything else?
dollar |
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Mandyvilla
3453 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 8:14:36 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by assassin17
I disagree. If you limit this forum strictly to the "Who Can Do This One..." crowd and don't allow for some variety, this forum would die within a year from sheer boredom. As stated earlier, it has always had it's entertainment value, which was just lost in the shuffle of duplicated scenario posts.
Do you think the popularity of BO was built upon one big 'company meeting' of mortgage professionals or the fact that all sorts of new ideas can crop up here?
No matter how wild they may seem, if you limit these discussions to "work-related only", people are simply going to leave here and go back to work, or find another forum that is less-restrictive. Nobody comes here for the multitude of Announcements or vendors, I guarantee you.
In fact, this forum needs to be a slight breather from the workday and provide some sort of release or entertainment value. Otherwise, this is not a forum and is merely a research web-site. The library is not exactly exciting, which is why the internet is quickly replacing them.
You also lose the chance that somehow, some way, these off-topics will flow on topic and reveal something previously unknown. Just the mere chance of that happening makes it worthwhile. What you are advocating is to muzzle people you don't care for, which is the exact opposite goal of a community get-together.
It's not going to be fun if there are only 5 people sitting around discussing nothing but the same thing every day. Maybe this place isn't for 'fun', but some concessions have to be made if you expect a large group of people with different personal interests to visit your site and converse with one another. Sure, you can have less arguments with less people, but I don't know any web site with advertisers that wants less people. That's a pretty idiotic goal.
I don't come here to pump up my 'mortgage libido', I come here because the people can, at times, be fascinating. There is nothing wrong with this forum except for it's lack of variety in separating areas for topics, which by the way would achieve the goals of people on both sides of this issue.
I like to keep up with the mortgage biz, but I'm not willing to fall asleep while doing it. But if they'd rather make it a graveyard, so be it.
O*M*G!! O*M*G!!
Assassin's next post will be 3000! I rather agree with much of what you have written and believe our option to the dilemma you mention is selective clicking. If it's OT and you aren't in the mood to see someone's brain cell count, don't click.
If you want to get in the mud on a comp check debate, go for it. In the same breath, don't click on it to say "why again?"
It's called choice.
And, I think we have great self-moderation for spelling, dictionary, legal, sourcing, and if you want to moderate common sense, that should be interesting. Stupidity moderating is borderline insulting.....but then again, many have it coming.
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assassin17
4173 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 8:15:48 PM
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I think that Frank meant this part was VERY contradictory to your own argument;
"These arrogant nuts are self deluded to believe that in their superiority others here actually look for their approval and permission to think as individuals with their own opinions and the right to participate as members here."
He is saying that he could point that right back at you, because you are passing judgement on the right of others to participate here.
Correct me if I'm wrong? |
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frank drigotas j
1518 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 8:17:38 PM
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Correct.
dollar |
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assassin17
4173 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 8:18:10 PM
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And Mandy's next is 2500!
For 3000 I think I get a Snicker's bar in Valparaiso. |
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slants
4274 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 8:19:15 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by assassin17
I think that Frank meant this part was VERY contradictory to your own argument;
"These arrogant nuts are self deluded to believe that in their superiority others here actually look for their approval and permission to think as individuals with their own opinions and the right to participate as members here."
He is saying that he could point that right back at you, because you are passing judgement on the right of others to participate here.
Correct me if I'm wrong?
Assassin, I almost always agree with your take on every subject, but in this case, you have misinterpreted his point. This is what he says defines me personally: "there are those who hang out on this forum day in and day out with nothing to offer and apparently having nothing of use to do in life other than to use this as a free access pulpit to expound on their personal views, disparage and pass judgment on others since this is the only audience they can find who cannot refuse their presence." |
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