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mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2008 : 1:46:23 PM

Hello to all I am starting my thread keeping a detailed log of my experience Best Rate Referrals. almost as a journal so to speak. the reason i started this thread is I didn't see any seasoned telemarketing veterans writing any results.i didn't say they were not there. i could not find any after a little digging so here I go. I don't care how much money you made,executive level jobs, how many closed loans, or your marketing budget, The phone is it's own beast. It weeds out the weak minded individuals instantly, This is a field where 90 % failure is a stupendous accomplishment... the problem is people get on the phone to cold call and for some reason i don't know why but they feel like telemarketing is a scumbag job or something...and that concept alone causes them to not try as hard as if it was a job accepted as successful amongst society.....True telemarketing vets do not have this mental block.. they walk around the room and pitch.. the smile all the time while dialing, and are very animated on the phone.. ..enough free psychology for now....13 years and (counting) cold calling for me. I am excited to post my results which i guarantee will be very interesting for all... i cant believe brokers are calling it quits due to having to cold call for the first time in a decade...more for me....i told ya the phone will bring the most powerful and successful to their knees.... To all my true tm's smile and dial

Back to business. I ordered the Pipeline Builder Phase 2 on
Thu 6/26/2008 2:03 PM
I sent them my SAN information and Organization I.D. and did not customize the filters. My package is shipped going out today(Thu 6/26/2008 2:03 PM) UPS 2nd Day Air. As soon as I receive the package I will post the arrival time and date. This is a true journal/log of a true telemarketer/Licensed broker with a goal to be the most accurate tracking log on the post.Prior to my order I called Raymonb who answered every call I made.He is a true hands on guy it seems. after some small talk and a few simple ?'s about the data provided I mailed raymondb my receipt and contact info. It seemed almost instant that Zack South responded waiting for my info(SAN+Organization I.D.)so he could compile my data list in my area codes....... Like i said accurate as i can be.

jcarrier

13 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 : 04:35:10 AM

Mortgagebud, great idea. I wish you the best of luck. I was looking at getting the same thing...Phase 2. I was told by someone else on this board that I could expect to close 2-3 loans a month using this Hosted dialer calling every evening. I was really hoping for more. What are your expectations, planned time for calling? Are you working any other lead source or will this be your only one? Thank you and GO GET 'EM

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 : 06:19:07 AM

I am really thinking more than that if true TM skill are present. I know dealing with banks on the back end should be the only delay in results of making money with this marketing avenue.I do have other campaigns going as far as leads are concerned. 1.online leads 2.working on seo campaign(do it yourself I suggest ROI

).I already have a dialer and leads i am calling data not as tergeted as i like. Getting apps bad credit no equity all of my lead sources are working great for me so far.I trained telemarketers at Kaplan University before i came back to mortgages. Only issue with producing over the phone (assuming we are all true TM's) is staying on the phone.2-5 quality apps a day is a minimal by lunch in most mortgage phone rooms.lol high quality data = high quality apps bottom line. problems on the front end of the pipeline are unacceptable and easily cured in all situations with a proper TM,

mortgagemessiah

7907 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 : 1:07:10 PM

and your website you listed in your profile isn't up! hmmm!

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 : 1:26:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mortgagemessiah

and your website you listed in your profile isn't up! hmmm!

just switched from the a Linux plan to windows based.
which is easier (for me any way)to upload ftp. Site should be up be tomorrow evening.

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 : 1:29:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Banker0679

your profile was created in June...and you're using big fonts .... AND your username has the word BUD in it. lololol

Gee I wonder who you are...

quote:
Originally posted by mortgagebud

I am really thinking more than that if true TM skill are present. I know dealing with banks on the back end should be the only delay in results of making money with this marketing avenue.I do have other campaigns going as far as leads are concerned. 1.online leads 2.working on seo campaign(do it yourself I suggest ROI).I already have a dialer and leads i am calling data not as tergeted as i like. Getting apps bad credit no equity all of my lead sources are working great for me so far.I trained telemarketers at Kaplan University before i came back to mortgages. Only issue with producing over the phone (assuming we are all true TM's) is staying on the phone.2-5 quality apps a day is a minimal by lunch in most mortgage phone rooms.lol high quality data = high quality apps bottom line. problems on the front end of the pipeline are unacceptable and easily cured in all situations with a proper TM,

Yes you got me I am new to blogging i guess my disguise was not good enough Banker0679 I apologize. If i violated any rule with the text. Was that my tell

hpmfinancial

1449 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 : 2:01:04 PM

This is a premium member, meaning he is paying. Raymondb is a premium member. I find it hard to believe that there are two premium members on one paypal account, the outpost would not allow it. Why don't we stop assuming for just a minute guys. I doubt this is Raymond. Is it impossible to believe that someone is testing out Raymonds service and doing a review? I don't.

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 : 2:24:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Banker0679

seriously....it's obvious you're here soliciting with another username ray.

nobody writes what you just wrote in loan officer training.

Just like how you highlighted ROI, and use huge fonts.

this is just another Advertisement

I feel truly honored to be to mistaken for someone who I consider very talented. Banker0679 you get

because you made my day....
back to business... true tm's are not easily side tracked but we are all human.......
Ok I received my headset at 07/01/08 at noon...sent an email to Zach South to see when i can start calling. I called Best Rate Referrals to load a separate campaign(I spoke to Cody) he said it would be no problem inform my rep to load the extra campaign. I received an email from Zach and i quote' Hi ,

We are currently having issues with the DNC site which is hindering us from scrubbing all clients list. The DNC has stated that they have found the problem and are attempting to resolve it ASAP, however they did not give us a time frame. This does happen from time to time and usually gets cleared up within 24 hours. If it is not back up by today then it should be back up tomorrow. This is a site wide issue effecting all users of the DNC. I do have a dialer with another company already setup so business moves forward....until I am all set up with BRR
'

hpmfinancial

1449 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 : 3:16:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Banker0679

lololol yea ok. just read this guy's 1st post on this thread.

This is a true journal/log of a true telemarketer/Licensed broker with a goal to be the most accurate tracking log on the post.Prior to my order I called Raymonb who answered every call I made.He is a true hands on guy it seems. after some small talk and a few simple ?'s about the data provided I mailed raymondb my receipt and contact info. It seemed almost instant that Zack South responded waiting for my info(SAN+Organization I.D.)so he could compile my data list in my area codes....... Like i said accurate as i can be.

I don't get what you are saying, because he said true, he is automatically lying?

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2008 : 10:17:21 PM

ok i received all my login info on 7/2/08@noon. I am still waiting for my 100 data records with recast info...it's just data with extra filter results.I have only called for 20 mins.And I received a mini 1003 or aka a mini app.. I will tell you what to expect from the system ....I have a beast of a computer..3.6 mhz processor gig of ram .another gig on the way..42 inch monitor Lcd...intel...mushkin ram.. this truly effects your dial speed(along with your internet connection speed). there is a read out telling you how many lines are dialing at once... a very nice feature ...but I thought it was 3 lines dialing at once. (I will get an explanation from BRR on this and post it). BRR has a great admin feature which lets you view and export campaign results... very nice and user friendly tool. How could it be no one mentioned this to brokeroutpost.com.. If they did and i missed it and i apologize but i dont see it in any post. The dialer is exquisite piece of equipment cut and dry. Its a great tool as long as you understand the psychology of a sales pitch...if you go into a call talking about strictly business terminology your done.. I am very excited to combine my skill with unlimited dialing for 1 month,.. I am seriously going to put a huge amount of hours on the dialer to make my purchase worth my $550. I have used multiple voip dialers and by far BRR has the best tool for a serious business.. now about the calls I took that I did not close... they went great! all of them! if I did not pull an app the prospect provided me with a valid reason why i could not continue ... so far very accurate data... I know it all sounds great up to this point ..but I only dialed for 30 mins...but as a true tm i know i am going to produce tremendously from this system.$550 for the system.. recouping this expense should be the last thing on any real closers mind ...now if you are the type of person or individual that questions yourself including your results..example = I am not sure if i will get an app today.. or I just got hung up on twice in a row I need a cigarette. or if your the type of person that prefers to talk on the phone to a family memeber aka (mom, dad, grandma, little brother,sister who ever..) their is no dialer..and no data that exist that will make you successful .. sorry...I will be loading an additional campaign to take advantage of the the unlimited dialing..this is data from another source...I will be purchasing more arm data from Elie .....I already got stips in from one elie record list which will be 20 times the amount I invested with him ....Elie you can trust I fully endorse this guy......when all said and done i will have 3 separate campaigns for this month..and be calling from 9am-9pm mon-sun. This is minus any time I spend processing the leads I produce for the loans to come to fruition ....I have been backed up i will update every few days.

raymondb

3890 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2008 : 11:03:13 AM

Banker, Your right he is giving feedback of the training and help he is receiving from my staff.

banker your claims are making you look so foolish. Do you really have nothing better to do than track every thread im mentioned on. I know your mad at me because I put so many competitors out of business and your friends is about to be next on that list, but honestly just because you don't like me does not mean that I am not getting business and making folks of the outpost money. I have been doing so for 2.5 years and Im ready for the next 2.5 yrs. Im just wondering when you will run out of time to stop posting your BS all over the place. Denial is a dangerous thing and you desperatly trying to discredit me everywhere to try and "save" your buddies business but at some point you will wake up and smell the roses.

My question is what are you going to do Banker when Stephen is gone and no other provider wants to do business with you because of hte way you have acted on here? Im just sayin!!

raymondb

3890 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2008 : 11:07:07 AM

i look forward to helping you guys grow your business and hopefully get you that in house call center you want. If you need anything along the way let me know.

Thanks for taking the time to track your results. It lets us all watch you grow through my services.....I can not complain about that.

quote:
Originally posted by mortgagebud

Hello to all I am starting my thread keeping a detailed log of my experience Best Rate Referrals. almost as a journal so to speak. the reason i started this thread is I didn't see any seasoned telemarketing veterans writing any results.i didn't say they were not there. i could not find any after a little digging so here I go. I don't care how much money you made,executive level jobs, how many closed loans, or your marketing budget, The phone is it's own beast. It weeds out the weak minded individuals instantly, This is a field where 90 % failure is a stupendous accomplishment... the problem is people get on the phone to cold call and for some reason i don't know why but they feel like telemarketing is a scumbag job or something...and that concept alone causes them to not try as hard as if it was a job accepted as successful amongst society.....True telemarketing vets do not have this mental block.. they walk around the room and pitch.. the smile all the time while dialing, and are very animated on the phone.. ..enough free psychology for now....13 years and (counting) cold calling for me. I am excited to post my results which i guarantee will be very interesting for all... i cant believe brokers are calling it quits due to having to cold call for the first time in a decade...more for me....i told ya the phone will bring the most powerful and successful to their knees.... To all my true tm's smile and dial

Back to business. I ordered the Pipeline Builder Phase 2 on
Thu 6/26/2008 2:03 PM
I sent them my SAN information and Organization I.D. and did not customize the filters. My package is shipped going out today(Thu 6/26/2008 2:03 PM) UPS 2nd Day Air. As soon as I receive the package I will post the arrival time and date. This is a true journal/log of a true telemarketer/Licensed broker with a goal to be the most accurate tracking log on the post.Prior to my order I called Raymonb who answered every call I made.He is a true hands on guy it seems. after some small talk and a few simple ?'s about the data provided I mailed raymondb my receipt and contact info. It seemed almost instant that Zack South responded waiting for my info(SAN+Organization I.D.)so he could compile my data list in my area codes....... Like i said accurate as i can be.

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2008 : 12:14:55 PM

Thanks raymondb I was going to notify you of this matter.I was hoping it would go away.You know the devil just gets a hold of some people and won't let go. Me being the righteous individual I am not truly bothered nor eager to respond to liable statements. He was making all sort of malicious comments. I Know what the issue is and want no part of it in here. He needs to let it go. Ray hit it on the head once the word is out hope vendors will still accept business from you. I hope the best for the other individual I plan on tracking them as well in the near future. I appreciate the support big time ray!

Back to business
I just got my 100 FREE LEADS FROM Best Rate Referrals. Damn ray you out did yourself(or Zach did for ya lol)there is more filters in the data than I am willing to type. The list is very easy to read and use even if you are horrible using Microsoft excel.I will put up more info on the report portal(nice tool for stat junkies)call quality, and customer service. Keep in mind I want to answer questions for all who have them. Any I don't care just post it/ jcarrier I will get back to you today sorry for the delay...

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2008 : 1:17:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jcarrier

Mortgagebud, great idea. I wish you the best of luck. I was looking at getting the same thing...Phase 2. I was told by someone else on this board that I could expect to close 2-3 loans a month using this Hosted dialer calling every evening. I was really hoping for more. What are your expectations, planned time for calling? Are you working any other lead source or will this be your only one? Thank you and GO GET 'EM

I will be posting stats after tonights session.

darkstar

15996 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2008 : 05:28:49 AM

Since this is a training section, how about putting some training in here or this belongs in the announcement section in one of his threads...

I'm glad to hear you're doing well with his product, but this section is for training, not advertising...Unless you're going to offer tips and techniques and not just a yahoo type chat about a "product", this belongs in the announcement section...I tried to say that really really nicely so you couldn't read anything else into it! LOL

And posting stats isn't training, that can go in his thread in the announcement section where it belongs...Keep up the good work, you've made it this long in the biz, you'll do fine!...

***notice no personal attacks, as always from me*** Just asking you to respect the forum...

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2008 : 11:12:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by darkstar

Since this is a training section, how about putting some training in here or this belongs in the announcement section in one of his threads...

I'm glad to hear you're doing well with his product, but this section is for training, not advertising...Unless you're going to offer tips and techniques and not just a yahoo type chat about a "product", this belongs in the announcement section...I tried to say that really really nicely so you couldn't read anything else into it! LOL

And posting stats isn't training, that can go in his thread in the announcement section where it belongs...Keep up the good work, you've made it this long in the biz, you'll do fine!...

***notice no personal attacks, as always from me*** Just asking you to respect the forum...

We all know what a dog does when it is stressed, tired, and in fear of it's life. But what about a business owner who is stressed, tired and worried about their lively hood. what are their behavior patterns like.I have no clue..But If i Had to guess they would piggy back like a parasite to survive by all means necessary(it's human nature I don't blame them).just like paparazzi.whats worse? some celeb's cooch hangin out of her dress as she exits her expensive car...or the one's reporting it..taking pics.. and sending it across the globe...you know what they say there is no bad publicity. They(the tired dog,aka plummeting business owners..) know this! so like paparazzi they are willing to do anything to survive...Free publicity is all they want. You can let the images distract you or keep it moving to positive, profitable ideas. Once in another blog some idiot had a issue with my thread and never hit the moderator alert button in the top of the thread.An associate(who has a phd in psychology)of mine said that upset individuals very rarely have the capability to shut their mouth. If the mental capacity exist to create an effort to disguise the truth the attempts are very poor.They also live by 'thats my story and I'm sticking to it'. And some even believe(or fall so deep into character)their own lies and they also use blanket statement..say very damaging things and then they cover it with a blanket of kind words. example:1 I hate you your business and all you stand for.blanket statement = I am good to all good people...my friend also clued me in to a very easy analysis procedure... do happy people waste their energy bothering people...reading negative articles...or complaining...or doing anything for that matter that does not yield positivity....../let that one marinate..I know people who do just that. And they are always easily spotted...like a serpent.And always try to use what they believe is a cunning tactic like smooth talking, or intimidation. All i ask is you use your natural god given ability to evaluate who is a parasite,dying dog or plummeting business owner In today's current economic situation...
the training in this post was right on the topic. my goal with this post was to help fine tune your 3rd eye so to speak.back to my other blog issues. So the individual was always coming into my thread to disburse their negative opinion about the topic but not providing any insight on the topic. any light bulbs go off yet!. darkstar any Fla Samples.before I forget. These are signs of a negative individual you will use this on the phone, or in person with clients believe it or not remember 90% failure means your in the up side of success as a TM It's all mental. I hope this does enlighten some.

mcamp60610

550 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2008 : 12:44:20 AM

"I hope this does enlighten some."

[Don't know about anyone else but, you lost me here] "some celeb's cooch hangin out of her dress as she exits her expensive car...or the one's reporting it..taking pics.."

darkstar

15996 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2008 : 04:35:50 AM

>>>> darkstar any Fla Samples.before I forget

Thanx for putting that in caps, never would have seen it otherwise, shoot me an email and I'll send info and sample!...

Still no training in the thread, results are not training...To see an example of a "real" training thread, go here: http://www.brokeroutpost.com/loans/brokers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=228461 At least you can learn something there!...Please lend us your 13yrs of experience there, it'll help many!

This may help:

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–noun
1. the education, instruction, or discipline of a person or thing that is being trained: He's in training for the Olympics.
2. the status or condition of a person who has been trained: athletes in top training.
–adjective
3. of, pertaining to, or used in or for training: a training manual.
4. intended for use during an introductory, learning, or transitional period: a training cup for weaning a baby; a training bra.

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2008 : 10:02:09 AM

Obviously i was doing a lousy job showing insight or my perspective of training in the forum based module. Thread was moved to announcements.Like I care where it's located.
update..so far i have committed a tm sin and thats not being on the phone 24-7. Never blame the process for your mistakes...training note....great tm utilize time very wisely...and like a mechanic analyze the problem and correct it...as for as the call quality, great it is just fine. Free arm data 100 Thanks again Raymondb.you guys can close on just this list alone...I wont lie i was so eager to apply my skills to high level data. When i received the arm list I put the dialer on the back burner (this was a bad decision and bad time management). I called a total of 7 records the app i pulled was upside down..(training note)if some one is extremely eager to give up personal info there is a reason. and usually this is not a good sign..this is not written in stone in the tm law i get nervous when a prospect starts spewing their social and dob..that is an indication they need assistance(possibly more than you can offer ). they want you to throw a life preserver to them. please keep in mind I called less than an hour on the dialer,and called a total 7 records of recast data. 2 apps. in less than 2 hours of work.(the TM sin (not being on the ph0ne) 24-7 is the problem with this formula)we all know that not all apps will close to improve this number you need to increase contact attempts....which will increase interviews, which will increase the number of quality apps, and this in turn will increase the number of closed loans..I hope that made it clear enough....folks.. it is a very simple formula to comprehend. but the disciple is the only requirement to be successful tm'ing...Getting the deals closed is a whole other beast make sure you can do that too...lol the 2 apps i pulled are not going to close....ASK yourself What if i stayed on the phone what do you think would have happened my true TM's smellll what i'm cooking..Dont clap for the app...is what i tell all my TM's aka junior LO whatever your calling unlicensed individuals the industry.

darkstar

15996 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2008 : 03:39:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mortgagebud

quote:
Originally posted by darkstar

Since this is a training section, how about putting some training in here or this belongs in the announcement section in one of his threads...

I'm glad to hear you're doing well with his product, but this section is for training, not advertising...Unless you're going to offer tips and techniques and not just a yahoo type chat about a "product", this belongs in the announcement section...I tried to say that really really nicely so you couldn't read anything else into it! LOL

And posting stats isn't training, that can go in his thread in the announcement section where it belongs...Keep up the good work, you've made it this long in the biz, you'll do fine!...

***notice no personal attacks, as always from me*** Just asking you to respect the forum...
We all know what a dog does when it is stressed, tired, and in fear of it's life. But what about a business owner who is stressed, tired and worried about their lively hood. what are their behavior patterns like.I have no clue..But If i Had to guess they would piggy back like a parasite to survive by all means necessary(it's human nature I don't blame them).just like paparazzi.whats worse? some celeb's cooch hangin out of her dress as she exits her expensive car...or the one's reporting it..taking pics.. and sending it across the globe...you know what they say there is no bad publicity. They(the tired dog,aka plummeting business owners..) know this! so like paparazzi they are willing to do anything to survive...Free publicity is all they want. You can let the images distract you or keep it moving to positive, profitable ideas. Once in another blog some idiot had a issue with my thread and never hit the moderator alert button in the top of the thread.An associate(who has a phd in psychology)of mine said that upset individuals very rarely have the capability to shut their mouth. If the mental capacity exist to create an effort to disguise the truth the attempts are very poor.They also live by 'thats my story and I'm sticking to it'. And some even believe(or fall so deep into character)their own lies and they also use blanket statement..say very damaging things and then they cover it with a blanket of kind words. example:1 I hate you your business and all you stand for.blanket statement = I am good to all good people...my friend also clued me in to a very easy analysis procedure... do happy people waste their energy bothering people...reading negative articles...or complaining...or doing anything for that matter that does not yield positivity....../let that one marinate..I know people who do just that. And they are always easily spotted...like a serpent.And always try to use what they believe is a cunning tactic like smooth talking, or intimidation. All i ask is you use your natural god given ability to evaluate who is a parasite,dying dog or plummeting business owner In today's current economic situation...
the training in this post was right on the topic. my goal with this post was to help fine tune your 3rd eye so to speak.back to my other blog issues. So the individual was always coming into my thread to disburse their negative opinion about the topic but not providing any insight on the topic. any light bulbs go off yet!. darkstar any Fla Samples.before I forget. These are signs of a negative individual you will use this on the phone, or in person with clients believe it or not remember 90% failure means your in the up side of success as a TM It's all mental. I hope this does enlighten some.

Well, they moved it...All that grief, lil innuendos, insults you guys gave me and it looks like I was right, again...You took bad advise from, ummm...LOL...It's ok, others have fallen for the same thing...

For dialer meat, since I think you said like to try many sources, go to http://www.melissadata.com/ cheapest homeowner data out there....Many of the vendors on this site use them so cut out the middle man!....Infousa.com and listslources.com are 2 others GO TO THE SOURCE!

raymondb

3890 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2008 : 06:53:30 AM

That is a False statement. none of those data sources beat Best Rate Referrals prices. I have the ability to come down to a penny if i need to on a volume order. And for your Information Stephen, i had no idea he was going to start this thread let alone where he was going to put it. Heck If i had my choice it would be in the announcements anyhow since that part of the site gets more traffic.

Also info USA may be the most expensive data source out there so your training on pointing to them is way off. Do your research.

Tell you what save you some time....bring me an invoice from another vendor and ill beat it just to shut up the competitor here. its pretty simple really....you just cant beat the BEST!!

raymondb

3890 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2008 : 08:46:31 AM

Are you talking about ARM data or the data Stephen is referring to form the other vendors? Stephen is talking about consumer data (not that i would expect you to understand that banker) and yes if anyone brings me an invoice from another consumer vendor I will beat the pricing and the data will be the same. It is always the same if it comes out of that database. That is what info, century, nationwide, martin ww, sales prospects, and many others use.

If you bring me an invoice form any of them data sources i will beat it. This database is updated every 3 months no matter who you use.

No on the ARMs which i think is what your referring to banker since that is what first american is most known for selling. I update my ARM databank once every 3 months.....To be honest what's the difference since i give that away FREE. Even for the ones that want to just buy the data I can go as low as 5 cents per name on quantity.

Who else is doing that?

Best Rate Referrals can give the BEST pricing because we have the BEST platform with multiple options. I don't have to make max profit per unit on any one product because I make money in so many areas and fields of industry. There fore my clients get best pricing around.

And ill beat the invoice with no strings attached. I give the ARM stuff away with other orders as a BONUS, if they want to buy it then they can just buy it for pennies on the dollar. still much better deal than your BFF in Kentucky

quote:
Originally posted by Banker0679

so you're willing to beat the leads with no strings attached?

like they dont have to sign up for your TM or sign up to win a brand new car?

most of those big companies usually go through their leads every week to filter them.
For example, first american goes through their leads to make sure they haven't refinanced or sold their home. Do you provide that with no strings attached?

hockeyguy

218 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2008 : 09:14:23 AM

I just have to say just bought some ARM leads from Ray. WOW what a great deal! 200 leads for $29. Will be looking to hit them hard. Once again thanks Ray.

raymondb

3890 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2008 : 09:19:04 AM

I give that same 100 ARM leads away free! just check out this months issue of hte niche report......BTW on here there are orders required to get the ARM Leads free but those products they order make them money.

You are really funny trying to explain databases....

renter-come form same consumer database you are talking about earlier. those all get pulled day of order form the database that is updated every 3 months. same as everyone else....

high rate...same deal

ARMs, I only update this one every 3 months...(reason is i sell it for pennies not dollars and in a lot of cases i give it away FREE!) whether or not its updates daily, monthly or quarterly its still good data and i dont over charge for it. Didn't you read the post in this thread about those 100 names being good?

Your opinion on databases and how I filter them is so far off base that its almost funny. I filter each and every list for my clients. I too have margin and index and LTV filtering capability on the ARMs too but its such a small database I don't sell it like that.

Banker, i know your mad because your freind cant keep up with my company, but lets leave the professionals to handle the marketing. You stick to being the annoying screen name that EVERYONE is getting tired of seeing.

quote:
Originally posted by Banker0679

you don't give it away for free....there are strings attached.

You have to purchase a product in order to obtain those leads.

Free is when infousa offers 100 lead for free for just signing up, and it doesnt include with 'an order'

All leads are not all the same.
Someone can receive 1000 leads from you and they can be all junk.
Someone can go to another provider who filters the leads, and will give a better quality.

All leads need filters.
Renters list - Did they already purchase a home yet?
High rate loan - did they already refinance or sell their home?
ARM - did they already refinance or sell their home?
BK leads - when did they discharge ?
FHA/VA - did they already streamline?
Most common filter - What is the interest rate on the current loan to refinance?
If it's going to adjust to 6.25% or it's a 30yr fixed than the chances are really low of refinancing.

If you're just giving away raw data without these filters, then you're only wasting the loan officers time. Anyone can give away free garbage

raymondb

3890 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2008 : 09:23:15 AM

Your welcome. Shoot you got over 200 and you would have only gotten 6 with you know who for the same price. If you wanted them all in MN that would have ran you $1000. $29 is much better for you and for me its much better to see your 29 than for my competitor to see any of it. Let us know how it goes once you start working your list.

Thanks!

quote:
Originally posted by hockeyguy

I just have to say just bought some ARM leads from Ray. WOW what a great deal! 200 leads for $29. Will be looking to hit them hard. Once again thanks Ray.

LUCKYBMAC

87 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2008 : 11:43:13 AM

I want 100 free arm leads.

raymondb

3890 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2008 : 12:30:05 PM

http://www.brokeroutpost.com/loans/brokers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=225193

quote:
Originally posted by LUCKYBMAC

I want 100 free arm leads.

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2008 : 1:23:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by raymondb

I give that same 100 ARM leads away free! just check out this months issue of hte niche report......BTW on here there are orders required to get the ARM Leads free but those products they order make them money.

You are really funny trying to explain databases....

renter-come form same consumer database you are talking about earlier. those all get pulled day of order form the database that is updated every 3 months. same as everyone else....

high rate...same deal

ARMs, I only update this one every 3 months...(reason is i sell it for pennies not dollars and in a lot of cases i give it away FREE!) whether or not its updates daily, monthly or quarterly its still good data and i dont over charge for it. Didn't you read the post in this thread about those 100 names being good?

Your opinion on databases and how I filter them is so far off base that its almost funny. I filter each and every list for my clients. I too have margin and index and LTV filtering capability on the ARMs too but its such a small database I don't sell it like that.

Banker, i know your mad because your freind cant keep up with my company, but lets leave the professionals to handle the marketing. You stick to being the annoying screen name that EVERYONE is getting tired of seeing.

quote:
Originally posted by Banker0679

you don't give it away for free....there are strings attached.

You have to purchase a product in order to obtain those leads.

Free is when infousa offers 100 lead for free for just signing up, and it doesnt include with 'an order'

All leads are not all the same.
Someone can receive 1000 leads from you and they can be all junk.
Someone can go to another provider who filters the leads, and will give a better quality.

All leads need filters.
Renters list - Did they already purchase a home yet?
High rate loan - did they already refinance or sell their home?
ARM - did they already refinance or sell their home?
BK leads - when did they discharge ?
FHA/VA - did they already streamline?
Most common filter - What is the interest rate on the current loan to refinance?
If it's going to adjust to 6.25% or it's a 30yr fixed than the chances are really low of refinancing.

If you're just giving away raw data without these filters, then you're only wasting the loan officers time. Anyone can give away free garbage

CHURCH! If you don't know what it means look it up.

raymondb

3890 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2008 : 11:26:43 AM

Any dialing this weekend?

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2008 : 2:12:23 PM

update tonight with stats and all the stuff you want to know

mortgagebud

65 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2008 : 02:39:39 AM

Where to begin. its been a while sorry folks.Things are great on the telemarketing side. Bottom line is you will pull apps from the dialer.The quality is another monster on it's own. I am big on stats. unfortunately the dialer does not give you access to stats like talk time, wait time ect...you can filter your list of leads that's about it.
The pros 1.very user friendly interface 2.the report manager.
The cons 1.extreme amounts of idle time 20 mins sometime between calls.
The system tells you how many lines you have dialing at once my screen has never gone over 2 lines. I sent an email to both Ray and Zach on 7-16
no reply yet on how to increase this. or on the 2 additional data fields the dialer will display during a call(like interest rate,lender,loan amount for example)that I was told about before I signed up. I'm sure they are just busy over there. i am a patient guy.lol If i had to guess my numbers i would say for 25 hours dialing 5 apps. no deals off of the system yet. All apps were upside down. PLease keep in mind i also have other marketing avenue's which require my attention also. So i can not dial on the BRR Phase 2 as much as i like too. I will be honest I also had to get the dust off my old script which is the magic that is producing my apps for me on all of my dialing campaigns. yes I have more than one. I 'am going to make a conscious effort to put a bigger dent in the dialing with this system but my other campaigns are picking better than expected. And sitting Idle for 25 mins between calls is not super productive. I 'am also getting a better response on the 100 free arms than I am calling the list provided. It's like this with the arm data IF the person answers and you pitch it correctly(in other words do not act like you have a slue of information on them just converse)you will pull an app on 1 of 10 easy I don't see how you couldn't. But we are not looking for apps. so I am keeping the bulk of my arm data for the last week of this month. Folks Please throw some ?'s in the mix here. I know I didn't answer all the ?'s you might have about the system or TM'ing. I will do updates once a week from now on. My TM skills are a lot sharper than they were when I initially started the thread. So I am expecting better results calling the data that Best Rate Referrals has supplied. True TM's know when they are off beat. (not closing the proper amount of Prospects). The problem has been properly diagnosed and cured. I definitely am excited to apply the new energy on this pitch for this campaign. I figured out some very needed tweaking calling my other campaigns. And Yes I will Close a deal from the system the goal is 3 or more

raymondb

3890 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2008 : 10:34:34 AM

Thanks for the feedback so far Mike! First lets look at the talk time results for talk time, idle time, etc.... You absolutly can see your results bud, just not from the reports screen. For some of the stats you will need to email Mario. he can pull them and email to you for your review. I know that is a big thing with people that like to analyze numbers. Its just that 90% of people never ask so adding that to the front end was more work than would have been used for. For folks like yourself Mike we can get you these reports too, just email us...

Also i never got an email on th 16th but if you call me we can definitly see why its not dialing faster. Could be a number of things, if the no answer rate is high the dialer will slow way down. It does this to make sure your not abondoning calls AND to make sure that you are NOT burning your list. Since no one is answering the dialer slows so that you don't just burn through the list and not talk to anyone. Calling late at night from 6-9 will speed this up for you bud. One other thing that will help you is after you have gone through the list a couple times you will have eliminated all the disconnects or at least most of them....this will automatically make the dialer seem faster as it will only be using your 2-3 lines to dial connected numbers there for your contact ratios should be much higher leading to more apps and deals. 2-3 is not unrealistic, its more of an average. Give me a call at your convenience to work more of the kinks out and see if we can make it even better for you. Thanks again!

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