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chasjh46
210 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2008 : 09:05:16 AM
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| I live in San Diego just 15 minutes from the Mexican border. The lines at the border are a mile long with folks try to buy gas in Mexico where it's just $2.27 a gallon. No wonder, I was watching FOX news this morning and was stunned to find out that Mexico, China, Venzuala, Argintina, Bolivia,and a host of other countries are pumping oil just outside the US 3 mile territorial limit all up & down the west coast and the Gulf. Thanks to our libs in congress and their hug a tree constituents, we are not allowed to drill for oil in those areas. Wonder how much of this oil is sold back to the US at $137 a barrel? Want to know how to vote in November? Just fill up your tank on the way to the polls. |
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crankyusi
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 09:15:11 AM
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| Heard too that some truckdrivers in Texas are saving a couple hundred per fillup by buying diesel across the border. Drivers say they need to go thru some paperwork and explanations when re-entering but its worth it. |
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propertylender.c
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 09:19:11 AM
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quote: Originally posted by chasjh46
I live in San Diego just 15 minutes from the Mexican border. The lines at the border are a mile long with folks try to buy gas in Mexico where it's just $2.27 a gallon. No wonder, I was watching FOX news this morning and was stunned to find out that Mexico, China, Venzuala, Argintina, Bolivia,and a host of other countries are pumping oil just outside the US 3 mile territorial limit all up & down the west coast and the Gulf. Thanks to our libs in congress and their hug a tree constituents, we are not allowed to drill for oil in those areas. Wonder how much of this oil is sold back to the US at $137 a barrel? Want to know how to vote in November? Just fill up your tank on the way to the polls.
Sorry, but I would not trust gas from Mexican gas stations. |
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chasjh46
210 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2008 : 09:23:44 AM
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quote: Originally posted by crankyusi
Heard too that some truckdrivers in Texas are saving a couple hundred per fillup by buying diesel across the border. Drivers say they need to go thru some paperwork and explanations when re-entering but its worth it.
Here to, half of the line at the border are truckers. Diesel in Mexico $1.98 a gallon. Funny, the first gas station you see in Mexico is $2.27 a gallon and you get a free drive through car wash and full pump service, they even check your oil and wash the windsheild. While the first station on the US side of the border is $4.67 a gallon and thats self service. |
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chasjh46
210 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2008 : 09:32:20 AM
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quote: Originally posted by propertylender.com
quote: Originally posted by chasjh46
I live in San Diego just 15 minutes from the Mexican border. The lines at the border are a mile long with folks try to buy gas in Mexico where it's just $2.27 a gallon. No wonder, I was watching FOX news this morning and was stunned to find out that Mexico, China, Venzuala, Argintina, Bolivia,and a host of other countries are pumping oil just outside the US 3 mile territorial limit all up & down the west coast and the Gulf. Thanks to our libs in congress and their hug a tree constituents, we are not allowed to drill for oil in those areas. Wonder how much of this oil is sold back to the US at $137 a barrel? Want to know how to vote in November? Just fill up your tank on the way to the polls.
It's actually better gas than here. .89 octane vs .87 octane here and it doesn't have the carbon level we have here due to centerfuged pumps and filters. Sorry, but I would not trust gas from Mexican gas stations.
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slittman
61 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2008 : 09:42:38 AM
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Hmm, I'm seeing a trend, Mexican gas (89 octane) works harder, costs less than U.S. Gas....
Somehow I blame George W Bush(the little one). |
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Coronasteve
1509 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2008 : 09:56:58 AM
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Never have a problem buying Pee-mix (Pemex for you unfamiliar folks).
Gimme a fill-up, tres tacos, dos Pacificos, Andele. Gotta go get me picture taken on a Zee-Burro. Entiendes?
Copy & Paste for Zee-Burro
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s82/Coronasteve/Travel/Zee-Burro.jpg
quote: Originally posted by chasjh46
quote: Originally posted by propertylender.com
quote: Originally posted by chasjh46
I live in San Diego just 15 minutes from the Mexican border. The lines at the border are a mile long with folks try to buy gas in Mexico where it's just $2.27 a gallon. No wonder, I was watching FOX news this morning and was stunned to find out that Mexico, China, Venzuala, Argintina, Bolivia,and a host of other countries are pumping oil just outside the US 3 mile territorial limit all up & down the west coast and the Gulf. Thanks to our libs in congress and their hug a tree constituents, we are not allowed to drill for oil in those areas. Wonder how much of this oil is sold back to the US at $137 a barrel? Want to know how to vote in November? Just fill up your tank on the way to the polls.
It's actually better gas than here. .89 octane vs .87 octane here and it doesn't have the carbon level we have here due to centerfuged pumps and filters. Sorry, but I would not trust gas from Mexican gas stations.
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coopercash
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 10:33:32 AM
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Don't heap all the blame for the absurd mess that our Nation's energy crisis is in on George Bush. He, and his entire Administration, can be seen as a consecutive contributor to a failed National Energy Development policy that has been a constant since the late 1960s = BOTH Parties have put their heads in the sand, ignored the inevitable = $4.50+ per gallon in many parts of the USA today.
The immediate future doesn't look too bright with projections of $5 - $7 per gallon mid-grade and premium gas on the horizon for 2009!
Even if you extract the speculative investor out of the equation, we are still looking today at an adjusted "real" retail price of around $3.25 per gallon based on our being held hostgage to OPEC controlled imports. Think huge demand increases from China are going to vanish? Think again!
America's deficient Energy policies or lack thereof have put "us" in the crapper. Maybe we can recover by aggressive energy development over the next five years. On that subject, who do you believe can achieve that goal with our current crop of Presidential hopefuls?
Other than Ron Paul (who really doesn't have a chance) it's down to Barrack "Slick" Obama or John "maybe I can" McCain. Those who actually have the ba..s to be truly effective don't want to go near the job of President because of the crazed partisanship in DC that road block pro-USA legislation and prevent an elected Party from doing the job they are supposed to be doing.
So, as you fill up at the gas station (1/4 of a tank?) and shop for a loaf of bread that now costs anywhere from $2 - $4 per loaf and look at price increases of 14% -25% of just about everything we buy you may well ask "Why have WE let this happen?"
Think on that as we approach the General Election!
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chasjh46
210 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2008 : 10:40:01 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Coronasteve
Never have a problem buying Pee-mix (Pemex for you unfamiliar folks).
Gimme a fill-up, tres tacos, dos Pacificos, Andele. Gotta go get me picture taken on a Zee-Burro. Entiendes?
Copy & Paste for Zee-Burro
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s82/Coronasteve/Travel/Zee-Burro.jpg
quote: Originally posted by chasjh46
quote: Originally posted by propertylender.com
quote: Originally posted by chasjh46
I live in San Diego just 15 minutes from the Mexican border. The lines at the border are a mile long with folks try to buy gas in Mexico where it's just $2.27 a gallon. No wonder, I was watching FOX news this morning and was stunned to find out that Mexico, China, Venzuala, Argintina, Bolivia,and a host of other countries are pumping oil just outside the US 3 mile territorial limit all up & down the west coast and the Gulf. Thanks to our libs in congress and their hug a tree constituents, we are not allowed to drill for oil in those areas. Wonder how much of this oil is sold back to the US at $137 a barrel? Want to know how to vote in November? Just fill up your tank on the way to the polls.
It's actually better gas than here. .89 octane vs .87 octane here and it doesn't have the carbon level we have here due to centerfuged pumps and filters. Sorry, but I would not trust gas from Mexican gas stations.
That was funny Steve |
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mmizer
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 10:44:17 AM
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| I just paid $4.65 per gallon to fill my tank with prem unleaded this morning. And diesel is $5.00 per gallon. |
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chasjh46
210 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2008 : 10:45:07 AM
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quote: Originally posted by coopercash
Don't heap all the blame for the absurd mess that our Nation's energy crisis is in on George Bush. He, and his entire Administration, can be seen as a consecutive contributor to a failed National Energy Development policy that has been a constant since the late 1960s = BOTH Parties have put their heads in the sand, ignored the inevitable = $4.50+ per gallon in many parts of the USA today.
The immediate future doesn't look too bright with projections of $5 - $7 per gallon mid-grade and premium gas on the horizon for 2009!
Even if you extract the speculative investor out of the equation, we are still looking today at an adjusted "real" retail price of around $3.25 per gallon based on our being held hostgage to OPEC controlled imports. Think huge demand increases from China are going to vanish? Think again!
America's deficient Energy policies or lack thereof have put "us" in the crapper. Maybe we can recover by aggressive energy development over the next five years. On that subject, who do you believe can achieve that goal with our current crop of Presidential hopefuls?
Other than Ron Paul (who really doesn't have a chance) it's down to Barrack "Slick" Obama or John "maybe I can" McCain. Those who actually have the ba..s to be truly effective don't want to go near the job of President because of the crazed partisanship in DC that road block pro-USA legislation and prevent an elected Party from doing the job they are supposed to be doing.
So, as you fill up at the gas station (1/4 of a tank?) and shop for a loaf of bread that now costs anywhere from $2 - $4 per loaf and look at price increases of 14% -25% of just about everything we buy you may well ask "Why have WE let this happen?"
Think on that as we approach the General Election!
Very good post Cooper and you are so right. If your toilet over flows, just blame Bush. I blame every tree loving politician for our current energy crisis. Time to say "audios Opec" and develope are own domestic energy resources. Ive heard alot about magnetic engines which require no fuels, or electricity to operate. |
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fsboguy
3668 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2008 : 11:46:10 AM
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| Casa Sanchez gives you gas. 93 Octane. |
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EMScommercial
5138 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2008 : 10:51:54 AM
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richard... i must say.... that president bush or president kerry.... it wouldn't have mattered....
our issue is a supply and demand issue....
we, americans, seem to think that the world revolves around us..... but it doesn't...... this oil issue is an issue because two of the largest population centers in the world have been pushing harder and deeper for the democratic lifestyle..... i am speaking of course of china and india..... do you realize how many more million drivers the world has seen in the past decade because their economies have been bolstered up and their people can get off of the bicycles and get into their very own cars.... cars which did not exist prior and cars that, of course, burn petroleum.....
so... the supply has not kept up with the blooming demand.....
with that said, what was our administration to do? tell the chinese and indians not to go out and buy a car.... not to drive their car? absurd....
what can be done.... and what needs to be done.... is to open up more sources of petroleum.... if that means utilizing national lands..... or more offshore (which i agree with) or ??....
but the status quo is not the way to go..... and hugging trees isn't the way to go either....
development of new areas of exploration costs big bucks..... but the profit is there and if the american people and their government decided that we needed it to be done and cut all the red tape for the companies..... it could get done... |
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chasjh46
210 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2008 : 12:21:12 PM
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quote: Originally posted by EMScommercial
richard... i must say.... that president bush or president kerry.... it wouldn't have mattered....
our issue is a supply and demand issue....
we, americans, seem to think that the world revolves around us..... but it doesn't...... this oil issue is an issue because two of the largest population centers in the world have been pushing harder and deeper for the democratic lifestyle..... i am speaking of course of china and india..... do you realize how many more million drivers the world has seen in the past decade because their economies have been bolstered up and their people can get off of the bicycles and get into their very own cars.... cars which did not exist prior and cars that, of course, burn petroleum.....
so... the supply has not kept up with the blooming demand.....
with that said, what was our administration to do? tell the chinese and indians not to go out and buy a car.... not to drive their car? absurd....
what can be done.... and what needs to be done.... is to open up more sources of petroleum.... if that means utilizing national lands..... or more offshore (which i agree with) or ??....
but the status quo is not the way to go..... and hugging trees isn't the way to go either....
development of new areas of exploration costs big bucks..... but the profit is there and if the american people and their government decided that we needed it to be done and cut all the red tape for the companies..... it could get done...
Bingo..! very good post |
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SoCalRay
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Posted - 06/16/2008 : 12:34:05 PM
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quote: Originally posted by chasjh46
I live in San Diego just 15 minutes from the Mexican border. The lines at the border are a mile long with folks try to buy gas in Mexico where it's just $2.27 a gallon. No wonder, I was watching FOX news this morning and was stunned to find out that Mexico, China, Venzuala, Argintina, Bolivia,and a host of other countries are pumping oil just outside the US 3 mile territorial limit all up & down the west coast and the Gulf. Thanks to our libs in congress and their hug a tree constituents, we are not allowed to drill for oil in those areas. Wonder how much of this oil is sold back to the US at $137 a barrel? Want to know how to vote in November? Just fill up your tank on the way to the polls.
Typical answer from someone who believe Fox News actually reports news.
How you blame just the Liberals when the Replubicans were in control of congress for the 12 years prior to the last 18 months?
How you can not Blame Cheney and his people that wrote the energy policy for this Administration?
They all should take the blame.
Everyone needs to stop pointing fingers and have a civil conversation on how to fix the problem.
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mortgagemessiah
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Posted - 06/16/2008 : 12:50:32 PM
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| The finger can be pointed at every administration since Gerald Ford. Carter set up the Dept of Energy to help create a national energy policy to try to adress it. His plan worked as well for this country as his support for the Shah of Iran. We've needed a comprehensive energy policy in this country for 35 years. The problem our greed and short sightedness. |
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bramous
972 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2008 : 1:21:12 PM
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| The Mexican Govt provides subsidies for gas....that is why it is so cheap. |
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Tammie
22 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2008 : 4:35:02 PM
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| Read the censured book "creature from Jeckyl Island" by Ed Griffin. Everything done on purpose. |
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jtinoue
76 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2008 : 5:06:11 PM
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I originally posted this on the "Oil Crisis" thread:
We are seeing Futures traders purchase oil using a ratio of 16:1 leverage based on the US margin rules. This helps banks, hedge funds, and financial groups offset loses in other areas such as subprime mortgages. It is estimated that 60% of the price comes from unregulated futures speculation by these organizations. These companies are using the London ICE Futures and New York NYMEX futures exchanges as well as uncontrolled inter-bank or over-the-counter trading to avoid scrutiny.
We also have the issue of the dollar declining in value in comparison to other currencies. The US has seen a 305% increase in the price of oil between 2001 and April 2008. In Euros the price is up 130%, Canadian $ up 170%, and Australian $ up 135%. So you can see that our dollar is weakening in comparison to other currencies for the same commodity.
So maybe we are all to blame. |
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