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bramous

972 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  12:01:59 PM
Okay...I can't figure this out, and my brain is hurting. I have one borrower, refinancing two different investment properties. Both are cash out, paying off all debts. Both properties are SFR, in the same county in Florida. Both are 75% LTV. Borrower has a 717 mid score, back end ratio is 57.65%, 12 months reserves. I run both through DU and get one Approve Eligible, and the other Refer/Eligible.

Can anyone tell me why I am getting different findings? All of the info on both findings are identical except for the feedback....
Layne Jones

1478 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  12:05:50 PM
loan amounts? or maybe the amount of cash out?
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bramous

972 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  12:06:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Layne Jones

loan amounts? or maybe the amount of cash out?



One loan is $135,000. The other loan is $105,000. Cash out is only approximately $4k each loan.

BB

989 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  12:19:18 PM
Try reducing your cash out on the 105K loan. I assume the 135k loan is getting approved.
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bramous

972 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  12:20:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BB

Try reducing your cash out on the 105K loan. I assume the 135k loan is getting approved.



Other way around. The $105k is Approve/Eligible, the $135k is refer.
vburek

522 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  12:32:30 PM
show some debts being paid off from the first closing to lower dti on 2nd refi.
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bramous

972 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  12:41:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by vburek

show some debts being paid off from the first closing to lower dti on 2nd refi.



Both DTI's are identical. I ran it with full diclosure of the other loan that was being done.
joeyostjr

181 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  12:54:33 PM
just throwing this out there but is your approve on 5.7 and your refer on 7.0? only if you are using emagic instead of going to the source but wanted to throw it out there.
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bramous

972 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  12:59:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by joeyostjr

just throwing this out there but is your approve on 5.7 and your refer on 7.0? only if you are using emagic instead of going to the source but wanted to throw it out there.



That crossed my mind...but I'm running both through the same lender's AUS(7.0)

vburek

522 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  1:08:27 PM
Again, on the one you ran that go the refer. Lets assume you close that a day later, with the funds that you are pulling out of the first property, use them to pay off a debt, which will lower dti and maybe you will get the approval on the other one.
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bramous

972 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  1:54:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by vburek

Again, on the one you ran that go the refer. Lets assume you close that a day later, with the funds that you are pulling out of the first property, use them to pay off a debt, which will lower dti and maybe you will get the approval on the other one.



I am paying off all of the borrower's debt. All that I have is PITI on the properties and his primary.


katbunk

2191 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  2:00:09 PM
What does it say it's referring for?
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bramous

972 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  2:03:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by katbunk

What does it say it's referring for?



Excessive DTI....but like I mentioned, the approval has the identical DTI.

I can't figure it out. I've triple checked my #'s....and everything matches up, I'm just getting two different feedbacks.

katbunk

2191 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  2:05:05 PM
Wierd. You never know, maybe in the half hour time period from the first one to the second one Fannie tightened, LOL. Nowadays nothing would surprise me.
khoiey

1585 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2008 :  2:12:43 PM
Still have bugs???
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