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Managing Prime
2802 Posts |
 Posted - 06/04/2008 : 09:00:11 AM
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In addition to our rent-a-telemarketer services Prime Processors will now be offering exclusive and semi-exclusive leads on a pay-per-lead basis.
LEAD QUALITY
Leads will contain full contact information, 1st and 2nd mortgage information, occupational and credit history as well as social security numbers. Contact us to see a sample lead. Exclusive Leads are telemarketed in your name. We also maintain a very generous return policy.
EXCLUSIONS
We will not be offering this product in California.
PRICING
-Exclusive Leads
10 Leads = $60/ea
25 Leads = $55/ea
50 Leads = $50/ea
100 Leads = $45/ea
-Non-Exclusive Leads (sold to one other client)
10 Leads = $40/ea
25 Leads = $35/ea
50 Leads = $30/ea
100 Leads = $25/ea
For more information about this program please email John Tattan @ jtattan@closingprime.com
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justifyleo
22 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2008 : 4:05:57 PM
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John do you ever answer your phone, my manager and I have been trying to reach you for like 2 weeks now??? |
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Dialing Prime
162 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2008 : 11:31:13 AM
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Justin,
I have responded to you through the BO and via normal email... perhaps you are not receiving my replies 
With the large number of people that contact Patrick and I, it can be very hard to reach us via phone or email. By far the best way to contact us is WebEx AIM Pro (click the link in my signature for the free download). While we are almost always online, we are usually speaking with multiple prospects, Tmers, and current clients via AIM. It is also an essential part of our services, as you will need it to communicate with your TMer during your shift.
I look forward to working with you, and know that once you see how our system works, you will be excited as well 
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Originally posted by justifyleo
John do you ever answer your phone, my manager and I have been trying to reach you for like 2 weeks now???
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FLProcessor
429 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2008 : 10:49:02 PM
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Patrick/John,
Where do these originate (phone, net, direct mail) and ... are there any parameters? For example, is it just "take what you get, could be a 500 FICO" sort of deal, or is there any pre-qual/filtering?
Thank you in advance! |
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U812
390 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2008 : 10:08:53 AM
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Pat, might that be flirting with RESPA???? Something of value on the condition of sending the business to you, i.e. the processing???
Just an observation. |
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justifyleo
22 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2008 : 11:29:07 AM
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| Ok John got in touch with me! Looking forward to his service. |
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Managing Prime
2802 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 06:01:53 AM
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Nope. All the "legs" are not there. We would charge the same price to a processing client and a non-processing client. This is simply the start of the limiting our services to processing clients only.
See: http://www.valuationreview.com/Media/MediaManager/RESPA%20Compliant%20-%20A%20Guide%20for%20Managing%20Your%20Affinity%20Relationships.pdf
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Originally posted by U812
Pat, might that be flirting with RESPA???? Something of value on the condition of sending the business to you, i.e. the processing???
Just an observation.
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Managing Prime
2802 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 06:04:17 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by FLProcessor
Patrick/John,
Where do these originate (phone, net, direct mail) and ... are there any parameters? For example, is it just "take what you get, could be a 500 FICO" sort of deal, or is there any pre-qual/filtering?
Thank you in advance!
Phone.
I'll be 100% upfront on this issue. The filters & guarantee are the exact same as what's offered by best rate. The only difference is that we guarantee the SSN and the price point. |
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U812
390 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 06:51:24 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Managing Prime
Nope. All the "legs" are not there. We would charge the same price to a processing client and a non-processing client. This is simply the start of the limiting our services to processing clients only.
See: http://www.valuationreview.com/Media/MediaManager/RESPA%20Compliant%20-%20A%20Guide%20for%20Managing%20Your%20Affinity%20Relationships.pdf
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Originally posted by U812
Pat, might that be flirting with RESPA???? Something of value on the condition of sending the business to you, i.e. the processing???
Just an observation.
In quoting your original post, "We will only be offering this product to processing clients.", isn't that a restricted offering?????
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Managing Prime
2802 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 07:10:42 AM
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Yes.
RESPA's concern is with kickbacks, unearned fees and things of value of referral activities.
It would be one thing if we were giving the leads away, say 10 at a time per funded loan processed with us (or even if we were charging say a dollar each). However, that is not the case. We are simply going back to the way things were a little over 6 months ago.
Offering marketing services to non-processing clients is new for us and we are moving back to the full-service business model.
Processing is our core business and the simple fact of the matter is that we prefer full service clients and we are restructuring our offerings to reflect such a desire.
I could see where one might view this as flirting with RESPA, but I'm quite confident that HUD would not see this as a violation. As a business owner in the United State of America i have quite a bit of lateral movement in deciding who to offer services to. RESPA is not nearly as unyielding as people would think.
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Originally posted by U812
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Originally posted by Managing Prime
Nope. All the "legs" are not there. We would charge the same price to a processing client and a non-processing client. This is simply the start of the limiting our services to processing clients only.
See: http://www.valuationreview.com/Media/MediaManager/RESPA%20Compliant%20-%20A%20Guide%20for%20Managing%20Your%20Affinity%20Relationships.pdf
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Originally posted by U812
Pat, might that be flirting with RESPA???? Something of value on the condition of sending the business to you, i.e. the processing???
Just an observation.
In quoting your original post, "We will only be offering this product to processing clients.", isn't that a restricted offering?????
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FLProcessor
429 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 10:19:59 AM
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| Patrick - I had asked a question a couple posts back, regarding the type of lead you're selling.. Interested in learning more... |
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Managing Prime
2802 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 10:27:55 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by FLProcessor
Patrick - I had asked a question a couple posts back, regarding the type of lead you're selling.. Interested in learning more...
I responded. |
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FLProcessor
429 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 11:36:57 AM
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Sorry about that, I missed that! Based on your answer, this sounds pretty good -- I'm just not sure about the filters (I'm not familiar with Best Rate's filters). Can you elaborate?
Quote: The filters & guarantee are the exact same as what's offered by best rate. The only difference is that we guarantee the SSN and the price point. |
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FLProcessor
429 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2008 : 4:38:17 PM
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| Just checking, thought you might have missed this :-). |
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Managing Prime
2802 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2008 : 4:40:01 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by FLProcessor
Just checking, thought you might have missed this :-).
Think John was supposed to get with you. You can drop him a line at 614.316.7871  |
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FLProcessor
429 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2008 : 7:53:51 PM
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| I know someone mentioned you have a hard time getting to the phone, which is similar to my situation. Can you have him email me at: mortgage support at gmail dot com (remove spaces). Thanks Patrick! |
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Managing Prime
2802 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2008 : 07:41:48 AM
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Effective Monday June 16th at 5PM EST new orders for Prime Processors Rent-a-Telemarketer service will only be accepted from Prime Processors processing clients.
As some clients branch agreements do not allow them to use our processing services we will be making our pay per lead program available to all LO's effective immediately.
If you have any questions please email jtattan@closingprime.com
Thank you for your understanding.
Regards,
Pat Lawson
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bry7982
263 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2008 : 3:46:32 PM
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| What kind of Data are you folks dialing? |
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Managing Prime
2802 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2008 : 4:13:56 PM
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Old credit, Internet and ARMS for the most part.
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Originally posted by bry7982
What kind of Data are you folks dialing?
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PHELoanOfficer
90 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2008 : 09:05:25 AM
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First of all, John and Patrick are impossible to get ahold of. Both my branch manager and I have sent emails and left voicemails to check on the status of our telemarketing campaigns with no response. The first scheduled campaign was never scheduled (I was told that the session was open and that it was ours) however they were right on the ball to collect the money from my branch managers card. Second you're supposed to be able to listen in to the telemarketers and communicate with them via instant messenger so you can yield better results, however we got no response on how to get set up to take advantage of that. Our first session was on Monday from 4-8 CST and out of 400 calls we got 2 mini apps. I'm not sure if our second session, last night from 4-8 CST, even went on because there is no communication whatsoever from their end and we received no apps. We still have tonight from 4-8 CST and tomorrow 4-8 CST. Last nights campaign, if it happened, produced no apps and I'm clueless on how many calls were made. I hate to speak negatively about a company that seemed to have nothing but positive feedback and seemed legit, but I just want to share our experience. I have to convince my branch manager that these guys are legit and they're not a scam. Maybe they can rectify the situation, maybe they can't. I hope they can because we were planning on doing 5-10 telemarketing sessions a month.
John or Patrick, if you are out there, please let us know what is up.
Jordan Sanders and/or Justin Wimsatt from Peoples Home Equity |
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Dialing Prime
162 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2008 : 09:40:44 AM
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Jordan,
Your campaign was originally scheduled for a week that ended up needing about 1/2 of it's shifts rescheduled due to the loss of TMer, and another unexpectedly cutting their hours in half. While I understand that this isn't your concern, it is the facts and couldn't be avoided.
Monday's shift produced 2 leads in the 3 hours that were run (you have been credited with the additional hour because it was due to our TMer). This may not be indicative of our typical results, but it certainly isn't nothing.
You actually weren't on the schedule for last night, but are on the schedule from 400p - 900p CST tonight (extra hour credited), and the remainder of your contract is Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
You were "grandfathered" into the old pricing because we had originally spoken before the pricing took effect, and so were receiving the most lenient pricing and ordering policies that we could have given you. As posted on this forum, we are no longer accepting Rent-A-TM orders that are not from current Processing clients of ours.
I'm sorry that you haven't been able to reach us, but those that contact us through AIM Pro (explicitly stated to be our preferred method of contact) typically have no trouble in doing so.
Best,
John Tattan
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Originally posted by PHELoanOfficer
First of all, John and Patrick are impossible to get ahold of. Both my branch manager and I have sent emails and left voicemails to check on the status of our telemarketing campaigns with no response. The first scheduled campaign was never scheduled (I was told that the session was open and that it was ours) however they were right on the ball to collect the money from my branch managers card. Second you're supposed to be able to listen in to the telemarketers and communicate with them via instant messenger so you can yield better results, however we got no response on how to get set up to take advantage of that. Our first session was on Monday from 4-8 CST and out of 400 calls we got 2 mini apps. I'm not sure if our second session, last night from 4-8 CST, even went on because there is no communication whatsoever from their end and we received no apps. We still have tonight from 4-8 CST and tomorrow 4-8 CST. Last nights campaign, if it happened, produced no apps and I'm clueless on how many calls were made. I hate to speak negatively about a company that seemed to have nothing but positive feedback and seemed legit, but I just want to share our experience. I have to convince my branch manager that these guys are legit and they're not a scam. Maybe they can rectify the situation, maybe they can't. I hope they can because we were planning on doing 5-10 telemarketing sessions a month.
John or Patrick, if you are out there, please let us know what is up.
Jordan Sanders and/or Justin Wimsatt from Peoples Home Equity
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PHELoanOfficer
90 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2008 : 09:59:28 AM
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| John or Patrick please call me, Jordan, at 615-727-5593 when you get a chance. |
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Dialing Prime
162 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2008 : 10:24:01 AM
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Jordan,
Please contact either one of us via WebEx AIM Pro, our preferred method of communication.
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Originally posted by PHELoanOfficer
John or Patrick please call me, Jordan, at 615-727-5593 when you get a chance.
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PHELoanOfficer
90 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2008 : 1:02:02 PM
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| I've spoken with Patrick via AIM last week. Neither of you have been on lately (plawson@closingprime.com and jtattan@closingprime.com). I've also downloaded WebEX AIM Pro and neither of you show up. I don't know how we're supposed to contact you if that's your preferred method of contact. I can understand if you're busy, but it would be nice to be contacted to let us know what is going on with this campaign. Come on guys I know you're better than this. |
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Dialing Prime
162 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2008 : 1:06:43 PM
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there's your problem....
Patrick is now "Managing Prime"
I am "john.tattan@dialingprime.com"
AIM should have sent out the message about the new screen names. Figures that it was as simple as this to solve.
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Originally posted by PHELoanOfficer
I've spoken with Patrick via AIM last week. Neither of you have been on lately (plawson@closingprime.com and jtattan@closingprime.com). I've also downloaded WebEX AIM Pro and neither of you show up. I don't know how we're supposed to contact you if that's your preferred method of contact. I can understand if you're busy, but it would be nice to be contacted to let us know what is going on with this campaign. Come on guys I know you're better than this.
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