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mustang05
214 Posts |
 Posted - 05/23/2008 : 09:53:27 AM
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I hope BJ Penn chokes him out in the first round!
I hope Tito doesn't get completely dominated in his last UFC fight, but he will probably get creamed.
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reliable
61 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 09:54:55 AM
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| BJ, Tito, Wand will get the win |
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mustang05
214 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 11:58:39 AM
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| I guess nobody likes to watch the UFC? |
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DINEROS
1156 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 12:01:43 PM
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| I have no idea what is being talked about. But, I will google UFC. |
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NobleHouse
357 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 12:14:28 PM
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| Has Tito won a match lately? Wanderlei looks like a cromagnon he should win by intimidation alone. |
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williamspeaking
4058 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 12:33:42 PM
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tito= washed up, ccouldnt even take rashard lewis...lyoto will take him out
bj penn= the prodigy...F steroid sherk
i cant call the silva fight...the dean of mean has been on a tear lately, and silva isnt living anywhere near up to his pre-ufc hype..... |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:09:22 PM
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I know BJ, he is the man. He is going to put sherk on his back and do what GSP did to him. Take it from someone who has been training Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for more then 10 years.
Wanderlei fights for the fans not so much for the win. That having been said I see Wanderlei winning via KO. |
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StayInHomeGuy
281 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:14:36 PM
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
I know BJ, he is the man. He is going to put sherk on his back and do what GSP did to him. Take it from someone who has been training Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for more then 10 years.
Wanderlei fights for the fans not so much for the win. That having been said I see Wanderlei winning via KO.
Finally somebody who knows what they are saying.
BJ will dominate Sherk my guess is win via choke,I too practice BJJ, only for 3 years thus far
Tito is going to monkey stomp Lyoto, don't get me wrong, I like Machida but I'm old school UFC, team punishment for life.
Wandy is focused, he knows he can't lose this fight, round 1 KO becasue Jardin is crazy enough to stand and bang with him.
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swmsn
4205 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:15:43 PM
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Tito ( good fight )
Penn
Jardin
all winners. |
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StayInHomeGuy
281 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:19:28 PM
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Originally posted by swmsn
Tito ( good fight )
Penn
Jardin
all winners.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I like the Dean but what youd on't realize is that Wandy cant be KO'd..Did you see the fight with Chuck?
Nobody has ever taken those kinds of shots from the Iceman and finsished the fight standing. On the flipside...... well we all saw Jardin get knocked out COLD 3 fights back. |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:19:33 PM
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Originally posted by StayInHomeGuy
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
I know BJ, he is the man. He is going to put sherk on his back and do what GSP did to him. Take it from someone who has been training Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for more then 10 years.
Wanderlei fights for the fans not so much for the win. That having been said I see Wanderlei winning via KO.
Finally somebody who knows what they are saying.
BJ will dominate Sherk my guess is win via choke,I too practice BJJ, only for 3 years thus far
Tito is going to monkey stomp Lyoto, don't get me wrong, I like Machida but I'm old school UFC, team punishment for life.
Wandy is focused, he knows he can't lose this fight, round 1 KO becasue Jardin is crazy enough to stand and bang with him.
Lyoto is very very difficult. I used to train Judo for about a year with Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou for Judo. This was when I was training with the Olympic Team in San Diego. Thierry is a olympic caliber judo black belt and has beat some big names in MMA. Lyoto took him apart with ease. I think Tito might have some trouble up his sleeves. |
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darkstar
19300 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:21:05 PM
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Penn
Jardine
Gouveia
Machido(Jameson HAS to keep Ortiz weak in the kness)
T.Silva - won!
Palhares
Nakamura
Clementi
Yoshida
Kim
Wellsch |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:23:12 PM
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Originally posted by StayInHomeGuy
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Originally posted by swmsn
Tito ( good fight )
Penn
Jardin
all winners.
I like the Dean but what youd on't realize is that Wandy cant be KO'd..Did you see the fight with Chuck?
Did you see when Wanderlei fought Dan Henderson and Cro Cop. |
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StayInHomeGuy
281 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:23:56 PM
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
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Originally posted by StayInHomeGuy
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
I know BJ, he is the man. He is going to put sherk on his back and do what GSP did to him. Take it from someone who has been training Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for more then 10 years.
Wanderlei fights for the fans not so much for the win. That having been said I see Wanderlei winning via KO.
Finally somebody who knows what they are saying.
BJ will dominate Sherk my guess is win via choke,I too practice BJJ, only for 3 years thus far
Tito is going to monkey stomp Lyoto, don't get me wrong, I like Machida but I'm old school UFC, team punishment for life.
Wandy is focused, he knows he can't lose this fight, round 1 KO becasue Jardin is crazy enough to stand and bang with him.
Lyoto is very very difficult. I used to train Judo for about a year with Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou for Judo. This was when I was training with the Olympic Team in San Diego. Thierry is a olympic caliber judo black belt and has beat some big names in MMA. Lyoto took him apart with ease. I think Tito might have some trouble up his sleeves.
Yeah, I like Lyoto, he is awkward, and I never thought it would be an easy fight, but I'm going with my heart on this one, Tito was one of the first guys I liked when MMA started.
Thats badass that you trained with BJ and Sokoudjou, have you ever heard of AMC in Kirkland? Maurice Smith, Tsuyoshi Kosaka and Bob Sapp train here, the gym is run by Matt Hume. |
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StayInHomeGuy
281 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:25:49 PM
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
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Originally posted by StayInHomeGuy
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Originally posted by swmsn
Tito ( good fight )
Penn
Jardin
all winners.
I like the Dean but what youd on't realize is that Wandy cant be KO'd..Did you see the fight with Chuck?
Did you see when Wanderlei fought Dan Henderson and Cro Cop.
Yes I know, everybody has been KO'd but Keith Jardin is neither Hendo or Mirko.
I know you saw the fight with Chuck....tell me that wasn't ridiculous. |
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darkstar
19300 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:31:00 PM
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| I think they are both true warriors, I just like Jardine and would like to see him get this big win...I think Tito always has a chance of winning, I can just never think like that, pains me... |
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samwillsonbiz
194 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:32:19 PM
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Watch MMA.
I'm excited for July 19th. The affliction card is the best I've ever seen... EVER |
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StayInHomeGuy
281 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:40:43 PM
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Originally posted by samwillsonbiz
Watch MMA.
I'm excited for July 19th. The affliction card is the best I've ever seen... EVER
I will second that
although i think Silvia-Fedor is laughable. Wait until they pick up Arlovski......UFC might be #2 |
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NobleHouse
357 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:43:17 PM
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Didn't see the CroCop fight but I was at that fight in LV when Wandy got KO'd by Henderson. Wandy was in the hospital the night before with a stomach flu, I found out from the promoter just as the bell rung. They were prohibited from disclosing that info. I was a little upset he didn't hook me up with that info I lost a few hundred on Wandy that night.
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
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Originally posted by StayInHomeGuy
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Originally posted by swmsn
Tito ( good fight )
Penn
Jardin
all winners.
I like the Dean but what youd on't realize is that Wandy cant be KO'd..Did you see the fight with Chuck?
Did you see when Wanderlei fought Dan Henderson and Cro Cop.
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mustang05
214 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 1:52:33 PM
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Originally posted by StayInHomeGuy
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Originally posted by swmsn
Tito ( good fight )
Penn
Jardin
all winners.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I like the Dean but what youd on't realize is that Wandy cant be KO'd..Did you see the fight with Chuck?
Nobody has ever taken those kinds of shots from the Iceman and finsished the fight standing. On the flipside...... well we all saw Jardin get knocked out COLD 3 fights back.
I was front row at UFC 79, Chuck threw some of the hardest shots I have ever seen any fighter throw and Silva ate um up. I have a ton of respect for Silva and wouldn't bet against him on this one! |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 2:22:44 PM
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I have rolled with a large number of famous BJJ and Judo fighters. Minotaro Nogiera, Andre Galvao, Karo, Eddie Bravo, Clark Gracie, Dan Hardy, richie hightower, Jayson Mayhem Miller, Eddie Sanchez, Bibiano Fernandes, Rodrigo Medieros, Nelson Montiero, Wander Braga, Therry, and many more. The best are Eddie Bravo and Nogierua.
By the way I used to train with Eddie and Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is no joke, he is a bad ass mofo and can kick some serious ass. |
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samwillsonbiz
194 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 2:49:16 PM
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
I have rolled with a large number of famous BJJ and Judo fighters. Minotaro Nogiera, Andre Galvao, Karo, Eddie Bravo, Clark Gracie, Dan Hardy, richie hightower, Jayson Mayhem Miller, Eddie Sanchez, Bibiano Fernandes, Rodrigo Medieros, Nelson Montiero, Wander Braga, Therry, and many more. The best are Eddie Bravo and Nogierua.
By the way I used to train with Eddie and Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is no joke, he is a bad ass mofo and can kick some serious ass.
That is awesome.
Ya, Joe Rogan is not joke at all. Thats cool that you've trained with them. How did you get that right? |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 2:52:20 PM
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Originally posted by samwillsonbiz
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
I have rolled with a large number of famous BJJ and Judo fighters. Minotaro Nogiera, Andre Galvao, Karo, Eddie Bravo, Clark Gracie, Dan Hardy, richie hightower, Jayson Mayhem Miller, Eddie Sanchez, Bibiano Fernandes, Rodrigo Medieros, Nelson Montiero, Wander Braga, Therry, and many more. The best are Eddie Bravo and Nogierua.
By the way I used to train with Eddie and Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is no joke, he is a bad ass mofo and can kick some serious ass.
That is awesome.
Ya, Joe Rogan is not joke at all. Thats cool that you've trained with them. How did you get that right?
I trained at legends gym in Hollywood. 10th planet Jiu Jitsu is at that gym. |
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samwillsonbiz
194 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 2:58:50 PM
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
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Originally posted by samwillsonbiz
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
I have rolled with a large number of famous BJJ and Judo fighters. Minotaro Nogiera, Andre Galvao, Karo, Eddie Bravo, Clark Gracie, Dan Hardy, richie hightower, Jayson Mayhem Miller, Eddie Sanchez, Bibiano Fernandes, Rodrigo Medieros, Nelson Montiero, Wander Braga, Therry, and many more. The best are Eddie Bravo and Nogierua.
By the way I used to train with Eddie and Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is no joke, he is a bad ass mofo and can kick some serious ass.
That is awesome.
Ya, Joe Rogan is not joke at all. Thats cool that you've trained with them. How did you get that right?
I trained at legends gym in Hollywood. 10th planet Jiu Jitsu is at that gym.
Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the info. You know where I'm training next time i hit the gym  |
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StayInHomeGuy
281 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 3:09:02 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by hpmfinancial
I have rolled with a large number of famous BJJ and Judo fighters. Minotaro Nogiera, Andre Galvao, Karo, Eddie Bravo, Clark Gracie, Dan Hardy, richie hightower, Jayson Mayhem Miller, Eddie Sanchez, Bibiano Fernandes, Rodrigo Medieros, Nelson Montiero, Wander Braga, Therry, and many more. The best are Eddie Bravo and Nogierua.
By the way I used to train with Eddie and Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is no joke, he is a bad ass mofo and can kick some serious ass.
HAHAHAHA
I remember about a year back there were rumors about a mega-celebrity MMA fight between Rogan and Wesley Snipes....
I got Blade |
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samwillsonbiz
194 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 3:10:48 PM
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| Wes as a striker, I think Joe would take him on the ground. So if they went UFC MMA style, not like K1 or something, money on Joe. |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 3:11:20 PM
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Originally posted by StayInHomeGuy
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
I have rolled with a large number of famous BJJ and Judo fighters. Minotaro Nogiera, Andre Galvao, Karo, Eddie Bravo, Clark Gracie, Dan Hardy, richie hightower, Jayson Mayhem Miller, Eddie Sanchez, Bibiano Fernandes, Rodrigo Medieros, Nelson Montiero, Wander Braga, Therry, and many more. The best are Eddie Bravo and Nogierua.
By the way I used to train with Eddie and Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is no joke, he is a bad ass mofo and can kick some serious ass.
HAHAHAHA
I remember about a year back there were rumors about a mega-celebrity MMA fight between Rogan and Wesley Snipes....
I got Blade
Rogan is on the brink of getting his Black Belt from Eddie Bravo and he is a black belt in TKD. Snipes has no chance. Snipes needs to work on not getting raped in prison right now. Joe would destroy Snipes any way he wants. |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 3:19:24 PM
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| BTW: Joe is a solid 195 and he is VERY VERY strong with amazing technique. When he throws kicks they hurt, I held the bags for him and still got bruises. |
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StayInHomeGuy
281 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 3:32:35 PM
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
BTW: Joe is a solid 195 and he is VERY VERY strong with amazing technique. When he throws kicks they hurt, I held the bags for him and still got bruises.
I know bro, Rogan is a badass IRl and wesley is just an actor
it was a joke
but I still got Simon Phoenix aka Passenger 557 aka Sidney Deane aka Nino Brown
Ya dig? |
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hockeyguy
255 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 3:37:28 PM
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| I have to go for Sherk, he's from my home town. A guy that came from a lower class family and never given a thing. I love the steriod talk, how many guys that train for MMA took some kind of steriod at some point? Its just like any other sport someones always trying to get an edge. Doesn't make it right by any means. But if you think he's the only guy in MMA thats done it at some point you must re-think. Lets go Sherk pull the upset! |
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StayInHomeGuy
281 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 3:38:59 PM
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Originally posted by hockeyguy
I have to go for Sherk, he's from my home town. A guy that came from a lower class family and never given a thing. I love the steriod talk, how many guys that train for MMA took some kind of steriod at some point? Its just like any other sport someones always trying to get an edge. Doesn't make it right by any means. But if you think he's the only guy in MMA thats done it at some point you must re-think. Lets go Sherk pull the upset!
Sherk is garbage, BJ has never touched a roid, no way.
Name another grown man who eats baby food, I mean, cmon guy.... |
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hockeyguy
255 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 3:48:57 PM
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| What does eating baby food have to do with anything? I have a little boy myself and I'll be the first to tell you that the baby apple sauce is pretty good. Now a days with tons of different types of performance drugs who knows what someone did at one time in there life to get an edge. Like I say I don't support it by any means but also not willing to through someone under the bus either. Everyone has made some bad choices in life ask your budy Penn, you learn from them. I think Penn is an all alround great fighter theres no taking that away but like I say The Muscle is from Anoka MN and I must support him. Did you watch the 1hr long special on Spike last night? Either way I think you'll see a good fight. |
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StayInHomeGuy
281 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 4:03:49 PM
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Originally posted by hockeyguy
What does eating baby food have to do with anything? I have a little boy myself and I'll be the first to tell you that the baby apple sauce is pretty good. Now a days with tons of different types of performance drugs who knows what someone did at one time in there life to get an edge. Like I say I don't support it by any means but also not willing to through someone under the bus either. Everyone has made some bad choices in life ask your budy Penn, you learn from them. I think Penn is an all alround great fighter theres no taking that away but like I say The Muscle is from Anoka MN and I must support him. Did you watch the 1hr long special on Spike last night? Either way I think you'll see a good fight.
yeah i watched, i mentioned the baby food thing becasue Sherk went WAAAAY out of his way to act like some nutritional superfreak when he was really just doing roids.
Bj smoked weed bro, that is in NO WAY performance enhancing (unless you are in an eating cotest)
BJ by choke round 1 |
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jjacovo
103 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 4:25:06 PM
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| I would say BJ Penn wins with a submission but after seeing GSP get tagged by Serra it's hard to predict anymore. I think the same could happen here. did anyone see Forrest shoot Rampage with a net gun on Ult F? Holy sh*t. Rampage is one cool cat. I thought he would lose it. GSP vs. Fitch looks promising. |
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jjacovo
103 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 4:33:07 PM
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Originally posted by StayInHomeGuy
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
BTW: Joe is a solid 195 and he is VERY VERY strong with amazing technique. When he throws kicks they hurt, I held the bags for him and still got bruises.
I know bro, Rogan is a badass IRl and wesley is just an actor
it was a joke
but I still got Simon Phoenix aka Passenger 557 aka Sidney Deane aka Nino Brown
Ya dig?
Im still waiting for Rogan vs. Mencia. I remember Rogan was commentating a fight and as the night went on both his eyes proceeded to blacken. it was hilarious I don't think he spars any more before fight night. |
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hockeyguy
255 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 5:07:42 PM
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| Penn probably will win but I still go with the HUGE underdog Sherk. |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 5:41:52 PM
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Originally posted by hockeyguy
Penn probably will win but I still go with the HUGE underdog Sherk.
I am not sure Sherk is a huge underdog, it is just a matter of fact that Penn is a few levels above him. |
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Tim Thompson
405 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 7:36:18 PM
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Originally posted by jjacovo
I would say BJ Penn wins with a submission but after seeing GSP get tagged by Serra it's hard to predict anymore. I think the same could happen here. did anyone see Forrest shoot Rampage with a net gun on Ult F? Holy sh*t. Rampage is one cool cat. I thought he would lose it. GSP vs. Fitch looks promising.
BJ has never been rocked and he has fought HW's. Also BJ has some of the best hands in MMA |
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Tim Thompson
405 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 7:37:57 PM
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| Hughes and GSP killed shrek, BJ controlled huges on the ground Shrek has no chance. BJ looks to be training hard |
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hockeyguy
255 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 8:12:14 PM
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According to what I see here no ones giving Sherk a chance.
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
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Originally posted by hockeyguy
Penn probably will win but I still go with the HUGE underdog Sherk.
I am not sure Sherk is a huge underdog, it is just a matter of fact that Penn is a few levels above him.
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refiguy123
247 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 9:07:04 PM
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| Penn is the best well rounded fighter out there when he is in shape. He is also the best american I have ever seen with BJJ. Silva is by far my favorite fighter in the world though. His attitude is funny as hell, that is one guy I would run from. lol |
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refiguy123
247 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2008 : 9:35:41 PM
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| Silva can be knocked out, I have seen it. Google vitor belfort vs. silva, vitor knocked him out quick as hell. No one out today has hands like vitor though, he is soooo quick. |
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simply commercia
77 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2008 : 12:13:36 PM
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| Tito hasn't faught in a while since he is shacking up with Jenna, but I hope he is game. Silva got rocked by Liddell, but hopefully he can take on Jardin, plus Silva has some crazy workouts. B.J. Penn is prety bad assets! I can't wait to see Rampage and Forrest and would like to see Rampage and Kimbo. Did you hear the rumors of Tyson and Kimbo??? |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2008 : 12:32:44 PM
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| Kimbo is a nobody and should not be discussed. |
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simply commercia
77 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2008 : 12:34:46 PM
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| hahaha, it would still be nice to see :) |
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mustang05
214 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2008 : 12:56:40 PM
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Originally posted by hpmfinancial
Kimbo is a nobody and should not be discussed.
Kimbo is training with Bas Rutten and will be a great fighter in a few years. |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2008 : 1:05:16 PM
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| I trained with at Bas's gym for a little more then a year. That is longer then Kimbo as well as many other people. That does not make us worthy of discussion now does it? Kimbo has no accomplishments except fighting on youtube. We can discuss him when he actually does something. |
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simply commercia
77 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2008 : 1:10:38 PM
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| that's funny considering most people in the UFC came from street fighting/bar brawling. All they ended up doing was training. Ex. Tank Aboott, he was simply a bar brawler; Same with Liddel. They just liked to fight. Until guys like Tito entered the cage, that has technique and training, that's when you started to see a different UFC...my opinion. IF Kimbo can combine his "street" fighting with some technique on the ground...then I think he will have a chance for people to take him seriously. |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2008 : 1:13:10 PM
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If Kimbo develops a record of winning then let us discuss him. I can't tell you how many people there are with two pro fights that we are not discussing. Tank won many fights, liddel was a vale tudo fighter down in brazil (I have a bunch of those fights on vhs) and Ortiz got mentioned once he started winning fights. BTW Chuck has been a Kempo fighter for many years previous to MMA.
I guess I am saying lets discuss those worth discussing. |
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hpmfinancial
1845 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2008 : 6:41:45 PM
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| My picks are Wanderlei and Penn. Lyoto should beat Tito, but I never count him out. |
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clarenceworley
4360 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2008 : 7:15:37 PM
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BJ, Machida, and Dean Jardine will win. Wandy is an alltime favorite but he needs to cut to 185, he walks at 210-about the same as Rich Franklin and Anderson Silva. Tito may be able to lay-n-pray a decision if his back is OK. BJ is unbelievable if in shape. He lost a close decision to Lyoto Machida in Japan.
I am a huge UFC fan since UFC 1.
Most Light heavies cut from 225 these days. |
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