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MisterVA

5805 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2008 :  7:49:21 PM
I just do not have any for Ted Kennedy. Reading about Kerry's claim he has helped millions only magnifies the instance where he did not help one. I just cannot feel any sympathy for him.
mantixmortgage

2660 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2008 :  8:09:35 PM
you cant feel any sympathy for a dude with a brain tumor? im sorry.
MisterVA

5805 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2008 :  8:12:32 PM
Nope. I tried. But I keep thinking of what happened to Mary Jo Kopechne.
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toddblue

1795 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2008 :  8:14:39 PM
I don't agree with Kennedy politically. But a man facing a life threatening illness trumps our political differences.

I wish Ted Kennedy peace in his time of trial. He is in my prayers.
MisterVA

5805 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2008 :  8:22:12 PM
Has nothing to do with politics. Although, I find it difficult to have sympathy, it does not mean I am jumping for joy. But the thoughts of her being left to die in that car when he could have gone for help are pretty overpowering.
mantixmortgage

2660 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2008 :  8:26:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MisterVA

Nope. I tried. But I keep thinking of what happened to Mary Jo Kopechne.



thats a bizarre story from what i have read on it
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rtrefflich

2634 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2008 :  11:14:14 PM
I am with you, I feel for him as a person suffering, but I dislike a lot of what he did as a person and a political figure. There are so many stories about him going back and forth on certain issues, treating people like trash and abusing his name and power. I cannot wish ill upon anyone. I am a big believer in Karma and what goes around comes around. This may be a long painful experience for him to think about the hurt that he has caused so many people, including what happened in Chapaquitic.
LoanPro71

1599 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  01:12:12 AM
John McCain must be devastated. He and Ted are old pals.

If I recall correctly, aren't they the two d*ckheads that came up with the Immigration Bill that would have granted amnesty to over 10 Million illegal aliens?

McCain is definitely a "Patriot"
assassin17

3298 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  02:18:27 AM
Kennedy also worked with Bush to create the "No Child Left Behind" program. It's just that the Dems don't want to mention that now.
MisterVA

5805 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  05:26:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mantixmortgage

quote:
Originally posted by MisterVA

Nope. I tried. But I keep thinking of what happened to Mary Jo Kopechne.



thats a bizarre story from what i have read on it



I don't think 'bizarre' is the right word to use in that situation.
vburek

503 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  05:46:11 AM
They are not illegal aliens breaking laws, they are undocumented workers.
Cool Hand Luke

250 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  05:52:40 AM
There will be a void in the libs quest for socialism, income redistribution, abortion, higher taxes, less traditional values, more gov't regulation, more welfare, more social programs, less responsibility for citizens, and the libs desire to gain power over the people because we aren't smart enough to make the right decisions on how to lead over lives. I will miss Ted, because I can't think for myself. We are all like sheep, and he was our shepard.
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mortgagemessiah

7834 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  05:53:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by vburek

They are not illegal aliens breaking laws, they are undocumented workers.



Undocumented Worker is the politically correct phrase for Illegal Alien. Either way, they are in this country illegally and should be booted.
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mortgagemessiah

7834 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  06:00:54 AM
What's Teddy done for me and what has he really done to inspire people? His old man had the money, Jack had the chrisma and Bobby had the brains. Teddy only got where he was because he was a Kennedy and because of the coattails of his two brothers.
brandie

3118 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  06:00:57 AM
Paul
I have to agree with you. Kennedy used his power to cover up the car crash that killed Mary Jo Kopechne.

One thing that burns me, is the fact that if it was any of us plain joes killing someone in a car crash, we would have been tried and convicted.
velecico

3200 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  07:25:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MisterVA

Nope. I tried. But I keep thinking of what happened to Mary Jo Kopechne.



How do you know what happened ?
velecico

3200 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  07:28:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mortgagemessiah

quote:
Originally posted by vburek

They are not illegal aliens breaking laws, they are undocumented workers.



Undocumented Worker is the politically correct phrase for Illegal Alien. Either way, they are in this country illegally and should be booted.




Who do you think puts together all those commercial buidings you are trying to finance ?
ritabradley01

2198 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  07:58:21 AM
There are a lot of people in the world that need my sympathy. I'm not feeling it for this guy though.
frank drigotas j

762 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  08:03:21 AM
When I was young, I must confess that on occasion I wished ill upon my perceived antagonists.

With each passing year, I have come to realize that it was an immature thought process.

I now can say that I harbor only the desire that those whom I dislike might change, and pray them no harm.

Ted Kennedy, politics aside, has already endured more heartbreaks as a human being than most of us, and we all have had some. He could have, with his wealth, chosen a life of ease, playing out the years with the equally rich and privileged. Instead, he has been a tireless worker on behalf of the less fortunate, and in so doing in Congress, is almost universally praised for it by members of both/all parties.

His foibles have been unfortunate, and I have no doubt that if he could undo his personal mistakes he would do so in a heartbeat. Alas, he is only human.

He bore the passing of close family with dignity, and accepted the role of family leadership even though he could have elected not to do so. I am not so certain that all of us would have shouldered tragedy and responsibility as well.

dollar

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rtrefflich

2634 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  08:05:36 AM
Steve, haven't you listened to our wonderful fearless leader, they are here doing jobs that Americans just won't do. If they leave I will have to cut my own grass, clean my own house and take care of my own kids, then I'm letting the terrorists win.

quote:
Originally posted by mortgagemessiah

quote:
Originally posted by vburek

They are not illegal aliens breaking laws, they are undocumented workers.



Undocumented Worker is the politically correct phrase for Illegal Alien. Either way, they are in this country illegally and should be booted.

EMScommercial

4688 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  08:07:20 AM
wow steve.... we see eye to eye on something quasi-political (illegals)....

as far as kennedy's ailment goes..... i have to look past my entire life with this pugnatious definition of a politian (in a bad way).... and remember that he is still a human being.... and to have a brain tumor must be some extreme pain and suffering.....

my father tells me a story about how most of his union buddies really disliked jfk.... and how he claimed he never shed a tear for the president being killed, but in later years he felt remorse for not having any compassion for the man and the family.... it helped me understand.....

everyone has their way of thinking.... that's mine....
RodneyLO

800 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  08:39:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by frank drigotas jr

When I was young, I must confess that on occasion I wished ill upon my perceived antagonists.

With each passing year, I have come to realize that it was an immature thought process.

I now can say that I harbor only the desire that those whom I dislike might change, and pray them no harm.

Ted Kennedy, politics aside, has already endured more heartbreaks as a human being than most of us, and we all have had some. He could have, with his wealth, chosen a life of ease, playing out the years with the equally rich and privileged. Instead, he has been a tireless worker on behalf of the less fortunate, and in so doing in Congress, is almost universally praised for it by members of both/all parties.

His foibles have been unfortunate, and I have no doubt that if he could undo his personal mistakes he would do so in a heartbeat. Alas, he is only human.

He bore the passing of close family with dignity, and accepted the role of family leadership even though he could have elected not to do so. I am not so certain that all of us would have shouldered tragedy and responsibility as well.

dollar





Ah, the wisdom of age. Thanks Dollar.

I myself abhor politics, so do not try to classify my response thusly.

He is, like it or not, an American icon, and the last of the great Kennedy lineage. I find it sad that he will be leaving soon, but we will all go eventually.

I wish all the best for him and his loved ones.
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ANTHONY6977

883 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  11:13:04 AM
Posted - 05/21/2008 : 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by vburek

They are not illegal aliens breaking laws, they are undocumented workers.

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Undocumented Worker is the politically correct phrase for Illegal Alien. Either way, they are in this country illegally and should be booted.

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swtrnsassy1

59 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  12:44:26 PM
Well I can say officially my stomach has turned upside down.... I don't know where most of you are located, but I'm in California.... Is there any one person here who didn't come from another country or continent. Or let me rephrase, whose ancestors did not come from another? If it weren't for all of the opportunities those that first came here were offered, well where would all of us be today. That aside, wasn't california partially mexico, and what wasn't werent the indians here first. And isn't it a fact that most Hispanics to be politically correct, have some type of indian in them. So who are all of you to down the people who are trying to give their families a better life. So they don't have the education to sit on a computer all day thinking they are holier than though, but yes some cut lawns, as most of you are probably to lazy to do it. They work in hot sun, and fields. And they don't have glorious jobs, or silver spoons in their mouth. I am proud of my heritage. My great grandfather worked in the fields his family in tents for a portion of the year. And thanks to his hard work and dedication, thats what we were taught. The harder you work, and the more you try the more you have to give to your children. Even if its only an education. Pompass, a** people. I thought racism was on its way out. you all make me sick. where did your relatives come from? And on my mothers side, scottish/irish, well hell maybe you think I have no right to be here either. ugh grow up.
katbunk

1524 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  12:53:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by swtrnsassy1

Well I can say officially my stomach has turned upside down.... I don't know where most of you are located, but I'm in California.... Is there any one person here who didn't come from another country or continent. Or let me rephrase, whose ancestors did not come from another? If it weren't for all of the opportunities those that first came here were offered, well where would all of us be today. That aside, wasn't california partially mexico, and what wasn't werent the indians here first. And isn't it a fact that most Hispanics to be politically correct, have some type of indian in them. So who are all of you to down the people who are trying to give their families a better life. So they don't have the education to sit on a computer all day thinking they are holier than though, but yes some cut lawns, as most of you are probably to lazy to do it. They work in hot sun, and fields. And they don't have glorious jobs, or silver spoons in their mouth. I am proud of my heritage. My great grandfather worked in the fields his family in tents for a portion of the year. And thanks to his hard work and dedication, thats what we were taught. The harder you work, and the more you try the more you have to give to your children. Even if its only an education. Pompass, a** people. I thought racism was on its way out. you all make me sick. where did your relatives come from? And on my mothers side, scottish/irish, well hell maybe you think I have no right to be here either. ugh grow up.



And out comes the race card. What part about "illegal" don't you understand? I don't care where they come from, north or south, just do it legally.
JINGLISH

72 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  1:12:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by katbunk

quote:
Originally posted by swtrnsassy1

Well I can say officially my stomach has turned upside down.... I don't know where most of you are located, but I'm in California.... Is there any one person here who didn't come from another country or continent. Or let me rephrase, whose ancestors did not come from another? If it weren't for all of the opportunities those that first came here were offered, well where would all of us be today. That aside, wasn't california partially mexico, and what wasn't werent the indians here first. And isn't it a fact that most Hispanics to be politically correct, have some type of indian in them. So who are all of you to down the people who are trying to give their families a better life. So they don't have the education to sit on a computer all day thinking they are holier than though, but yes some cut lawns, as most of you are probably to lazy to do it. They work in hot sun, and fields. And they don't have glorious jobs, or silver spoons in their mouth. I am proud of my heritage. My great grandfather worked in the fields his family in tents for a portion of the year. And thanks to his hard work and dedication, thats what we were taught. The harder you work, and the more you try the more you have to give to your children. Even if its only an education. Pompass, a** people. I thought racism was on its way out. you all make me sick. where did your relatives come from? And on my mothers side, scottish/irish, well hell maybe you think I have no right to be here either. ugh grow up.



And out comes the race card. What part about "illegal" don't you understand? I don't care where they come from, north or south, just do it legally.



Couldn't have said it better, just do it "legally" then we'll all shut up. Being in this country is a privilege not a right. How is it fair to all the people standing in line, waiting patiently to come here legally!
MoneyLenderP

1270 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  1:14:59 PM


And out comes the race card. What part about "illegal" don't you understand? I don't care where they come from, north or south, just do it legally.
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YES PLEASE!
brandie

3118 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  1:39:39 PM
I am sorry, but I do have a problem with illegals coming in and expecting free health care, free govie programs, while the legals are paying taxes, paying for their own health care and getting no type of govie programs trying to make ends meet.

MisterVA

5805 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  1:47:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by velecico

quote:
Originally posted by MisterVA

Nope. I tried. But I keep thinking of what happened to Mary Jo Kopechne.



How do you know what happened ?



Are you really asking that question? It is well documented that she had a pocket of air and had Senator Kennedy gone back to the house for help, she could have been saved. But he chose another route. I watched the statement made by him after the event. I am not going to reiterate the events when you can easily find them yourself.
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mortgagemessiah

7834 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  2:03:02 PM
Paul, I didn't know you were that old.
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clarenceworley

3813 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  2:06:21 PM
Bill Clinton's biggest mistake with Monica Lewinsky: he should have had Ted Kennedy drive her home.
assassin17

3298 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  2:22:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by swtrnsassy1

Well I can say officially my stomach has turned upside down.... I don't know where most of you are located, but I'm in California.... Is there any one person here who didn't come from another country or continent. Or let me rephrase, whose ancestors did not come from another? If it weren't for all of the opportunities those that first came here were offered, well where would all of us be today. That aside, wasn't california partially mexico, and what wasn't werent the indians here first. And isn't it a fact that most Hispanics to be politically correct, have some type of indian in them. So who are all of you to down the people who are trying to give their families a better life. So they don't have the education to sit on a computer all day thinking they are holier than though, but yes some cut lawns, as most of you are probably to lazy to do it. They work in hot sun, and fields. And they don't have glorious jobs, or silver spoons in their mouth. I am proud of my heritage. My great grandfather worked in the fields his family in tents for a portion of the year. And thanks to his hard work and dedication, thats what we were taught. The harder you work, and the more you try the more you have to give to your children. Even if its only an education. Pompass, a** people. I thought racism was on its way out. you all make me sick. where did your relatives come from? And on my mothers side, scottish/irish, well hell maybe you think I have no right to be here either. ugh grow up.
It's "racism" to ask that someone come here legally by doing a little paperwork? Ask your ancestors if they stood in line for weeks at Ellis Island and what they would think of someone who skipped past them and laughed in their face.

There were no "opportunities" first offered here on the empty and unexplored wilds and plains, they were created through the hard work of immigrants who built a civilized society in a place where none existed before it. Do you think that businesses and farms were built all over this land before the Mayflower sailed over?

The people you mention now benefit from businesses created by extremely hard work done by others for over 200 years, yet you complain about all the hard work they have to put in now. Too bad for them, they had thousands of years to do it first and they didn't. They don't get to sit on their ass for that long and then pop in when the hard stuff is done. They can play by today's rules, just like everyone else has to do.
LoanPro71

1599 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  2:30:53 PM
Assassin,

You nailed it.

So true.

Pulling the 'race card' on this issue is pathetic and simple-minded.

Ted Kennedy and John McCain were responsible for that Amnesty Bill a while back. Just wanted to remind all of you "Republicans" of that fact.

How the GOP can put John McCain on the ticket is beyond comprehension.
lemeuss

268 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  2:38:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by assassin17

Kennedy also worked with Bush to create the "No Child Left Behind" program. It's just that the Dems don't want to mention that now.



The "no child left behind" program has resulted in utter failure...I'd think Dems would be spreading this like wildfire.

I'm personally waiting for the "No broker left behind" program to come into play.
assassin17

3298 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  2:41:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by lemeuss

The "no child left behind" program has resulted in utter failure...I'd think Dems would be spreading this like wildfire.
They are. They just aren't mentioning that Kennedy helped to create it.
assassin17

3298 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  2:51:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by LoanPro71

Pulling the 'race card' on this issue is pathetic and simple-minded.
You'll notice that it is only pulled out by people named "Martinez" or similar, who don't understand the consequences of letting just anyone waltz in to blow the place up, nor do they care as long as their own family and friends aren't inconvenienced by having to fill out a couple of forms.

It's funny that so many people who come North from a country with no jobs and no pay do not understand what will happen if they all flood into America to reduce the number of jobs and the legal pay scale here. They'll end up in the same poverty, only they will extend it to affect "legal" Americans.

They choose to scream bloody murder at our government because they don't have the guts to scream at their own piece of crap. Of course, that would be "racist" of them, I guess.
samwillsonbiz

188 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  3:05:15 PM
My family and I are foreign.

We have spent years and thousands upon thousands of dollars to move to this country. It is overwhelmingly frustrating to go through the process, then to hear of illegals and what benefits they are asking for/getting just takes the cake.

It is a great country, make the sacrifice to get here legally!

mykal5

968 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  3:08:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by frank drigotas jr

When I was young, I must confess that on occasion I wished ill upon my perceived antagonists.

With each passing year, I have come to realize that it was an immature thought process.

I now can say that I harbor only the desire that those whom I dislike might change, and pray them no harm.

Ted Kennedy, politics aside, has already endured more heartbreaks as a human being than most of us, and we all have had some. He could have, with his wealth, chosen a life of ease, playing out the years with the equally rich and privileged. Instead, he has been a tireless worker on behalf of the less fortunate, and in so doing in Congress, is almost universally praised for it by members of both/all parties.

His foibles have been unfortunate, and I have no doubt that if he could undo his personal mistakes he would do so in a heartbeat. Alas, he is only human.

He bore the passing of close family with dignity, and accepted the role of family leadership even though he could have elected not to do so. I am not so certain that all of us would have shouldered tragedy and responsibility as well.

dollar





Very well said. We need more like you on this little planet of ours.
haiku

408 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  3:11:36 PM
Race card, opportunities... so, I guess it was an opportunity for slaves to come over unwillingly to provide means so others can get rich. I feel for Ted Kennedy... however, about him being rich and deciding to be a public servant. Well, most in congress are rich. That is why they are in congress so they can stay rich.
mykal5

968 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  3:16:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by assassin17

quote:
Originally posted by LoanPro71

Pulling the 'race card' on this issue is pathetic and simple-minded.
You'll notice that it is only pulled out by people named "Martinez" or similar,




You have to help me out here, as I have read that Martinez' post and failed to see any race card pulled. I think you may be on edge.
DINEROS

1008 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  3:16:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by clarenceworley

Bill Clinton's biggest mistake with Monica Lewinsky: he should have had Ted Kennedy drive her home.




Dude, this one knocked me off my chair...


DINEROS

1008 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  3:24:38 PM
Ted Kennedy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

Chappaquid**** incident



In 1969, Edward Kennedy drove a car off a bridge into the channel between Chappaquid**** Island and Martha's Vineyard. Kennedy managed to escape, but his passenger, campaign worker Mary Jo Kopechne, drowned in the submerged car. Kennedy left the scene of the accident and did not call authorities until the following day. Kennedy pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident and received a suspended sentence of two months in jail.


What a hero!

also recomended: http://www.ytedk.com/



JINGLISH

72 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  3:30:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by samwillsonbiz

My family and I are foreign.

We have spent years and thousands upon thousands of dollars to move to this country. It is overwhelmingly frustrating to go through the process, then to hear of illegals and what benefits they are asking for/getting just takes the cake.

It is a great country, make the sacrifice to get here legally!





Thank you sir for doing the right thing!!!
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toddblue

1795 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  3:32:02 PM
"Illegal" is such a harsh word. I prefer the more PC phrase "Documentationally Challenged".

The reality of it is that our legal immigration system is broken. My wife is from Mexico. She is a college graduate that migrated here legally. The process from work visa, to permanent resident, to full citizenship took 12+ years. The U.S. immigration system is the most bureaucratic in all of our government. It's no wonder we can't get the problem of illegal immigration under control. We can't even handle the process of legal immigration.

I don't support illegal immigration. I understand it, but I don't support it. Until we streamline our system, it will remain a problem.
velecico

3200 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  4:00:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by toddblue

"Illegal" is such a harsh word. I prefer the more PC phrase "Documentationally Challenged".

The reality of it is that our legal immigration system is broken. My wife is from Mexico. She is a college graduate that migrated here legally. The process from work visa, to permanent resident, to full citizenship took 12+ years. The U.S. immigration system is the most bureaucratic in all of our government. It's no wonder we can't get the problem of illegal immigration under control. We can't even handle the process of legal immigration.

I don't support illegal immigration. I understand it, but I don't support it. Until we



streamline our system, it will remain a problem.








Well said , I so sick of the ellis island posters , blah blah blah , I am not a racist , just come here like others did 100 years ago , well 100 years ago you did not have to go through a 12 year bureaucracy , you just paid for a boat ride across the pond and that was it
starfunder

33 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  4:13:43 PM
Why would anyone feel sorry for Kennedy, he is 76 years old and has lived the life of 20 men. You gotta go sometime from something. 76 isn't too bad.

Why is 12 years too long to get citizenship? That's the problem with people, everyone thinks they are entitled to things immediately, on the spot, right now. Anyone coming to this country should be damn happy if it takes them 20 years to get citizenship and just be thankful they are getting it at all!
financeone

1195 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  4:18:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by starfunder

Why would anyone feel sorry for Kennedy, he is 76 years old and has lived the life of 20 men. You gotta go sometime from something. 76 isn't too bad.

Why is 12 years too long to get citizenship? That's the problem with people, everyone thinks they are entitled to things immediately, on the spot, right now. Anyone coming to this country should be damn happy if it takes them 20 years to get citizenship and just be thankful they are getting it at all!




You're gonna have friends Starfunder! 2nd paragraph- amen.

1st paragraph - adios.
MisterVA

5805 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  4:33:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mortgagemessiah

Paul, I didn't know you were that old.



I was on the porch watching TV when he came on. I was 12. My parents were livid. They were from Massachusetts. I am that old. I remember when CBS was the final network to ditch B/W in 1967.
velecico

3200 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  4:50:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by starfunder

Why would anyone feel sorry for Kennedy, he is 76 years old and has lived the life of 20 men. You gotta go sometime from something. 76 isn't too bad.

Why is 12 years too long to get citizenship? That's the problem with people, everyone thinks they are entitled to things immediately, on the spot, right now. Anyone coming to this country should be damn happy if it takes them 20 years to get citizenship and just be thankful they are getting it at all!



You are such a humanitarian
LoanPro71

1599 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  4:55:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by starfunder

Why would anyone feel sorry for Kennedy, he is 76 years old and has lived the life of 20 men. You gotta go sometime from something. 76 isn't too bad.

Why is 12 years too long to get citizenship? That's the problem with people, everyone thinks they are entitled to things immediately, on the spot, right now. Anyone coming to this country should be damn happy if it takes them 20 years to get citizenship and just be thankful they are getting it at all!



I disagree. There's no justification for a 12 year process.

So, what's the lesson here?

When the government gets too involved and too BIG ... it screws everything up ... almost EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Ron Paul is the only candidate who realizes this simple fact.

Most of you chose to vote for someone else, hope you're happy now.
assassin17

3298 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2008 :  5:03:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mykal5

You have to help me out here, as I have read that Martinez' post and failed to see any race card pulled. I think you may be on edge.
"Pompass, a** people. I thought racism was on its way out. you all make me sick."

There you go.
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