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mustang05

183 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  10:45:17 AM
My clients want to refinane a Condo that they have in Brian Head UT. My concern is that 80% of the homeowners association is owned by a time share company and I can't find a lender that will lend on the property because of this reason.

Why? and how to I get around it?
katbunk

1162 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  10:47:08 AM
so the homeonwers are not in control of the association? The time share company is? This is a huge issue and I don't know if you can get around it. But perhaps others can share more, I'm not real sure if I'm correct or not.
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mustang05

183 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  10:49:00 AM
Yeah that sound right and I have heard that this is a big issue but why?
hertz

391 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  10:50:54 AM
Never run in to anything like that, good luck and keep us posted!
kalee3415

95 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  10:53:11 AM
The problem isn't association control, it is because with Fannie no single investor or entity can own more than 10% of the units on established projects or 15% on new construction.


quote:
Originally posted by katbunk

so the homeonwers are not in control of the association? The time share company is? This is a huge issue and I don't know if you can get around it. But perhaps others can share more, I'm not real sure if I'm correct or not.

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mustang05

183 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  10:56:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kalee3415

The problem isn't association control, it is because with Fannie no single investor or entity can own more than 10% of the units on established projects or 15% on new construction.


quote:
Originally posted by katbunk

so the homeonwers are not in control of the association? The time share company is? This is a huge issue and I don't know if you can get around it. But perhaps others can share more, I'm not real sure if I'm correct or not.





Does that mean that the other 20% of the people in the Condo project are SOL?
mudshark

3669 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  11:01:03 AM
You'll probably have to run with private money on this one. Have you done a title search on recent activities involving the other 20% to see who's playing?
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mustang05

183 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  11:03:54 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mudshark

You'll probably have to run with private money on this one. Have you done a title search on recent activities involving the other 20% to see who's playing?



That is a great Idea. I'll do that now.
kalee3415

95 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  11:06:37 AM
There is more to it than what I posted above. There is a lot more depeding on the classification of the condo. Search the internet for a Fannie Condo Requirement Matrix However, 80% ownership from one entity is a big issue. So yes, I would say that they remaining 20% is screwed when it comes to Fannie


quote:
Originally posted by mustang05

quote:
Originally posted by kalee3415

The problem isn't association control, it is because with Fannie no single investor or entity can own more than 10% of the units on established projects or 15% on new construction.


quote:
Originally posted by katbunk

so the homeonwers are not in control of the association? The time share company is? This is a huge issue and I don't know if you can get around it. But perhaps others can share more, I'm not real sure if I'm correct or not.





Does that mean that the other 20% of the people in the Condo project are SOL?

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mustang05

183 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  11:15:59 AM
[quote]Originally posted by kalee3415

There is more to it than what I posted above. There is a lot more depeding on the classification of the condo. Search the internet for a Fannie Condo Requirement Matrix However, 80% ownership from one entity is a big issue. So yes, I would say that they remaining 20% is screwed when it comes to Fannie


Can anyone explain the reason behind this guidline? Are they worried that they will spike the dues?
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irishstu7975

225 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  11:18:23 AM
dude you basically stole my thread name from yesterday!! lol

GOOD ONE
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mustang05

183 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  11:19:34 AM
quote:
Originally posted by irishstu7975

dude you basically stole my thread name from yesterday!! lol

GOOD ONE



Yeah I thought you might get a kick out of it
FLhardmoney

153 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  3:59:04 PM
I'm not sure what you have for portfolio lenders up there but that's what you need. Try your local banks or World if it fits their guidelines. Good luck.
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lunarhamster

2291 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  4:16:14 PM
I hate when that happens.
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