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Robml

26 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  6:39:48 PM
Does anyone integrate mortgages and life insurance effectively? I've developed some systems in my practice that seem to be working very well. I'd like to find out how others are doing the same.

Thanks in advance.

Rob
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rtrefflich

1806 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  7:31:20 PM
I write an insurance policy with many clients, just a basic Term or ROP policy, no mtg. insurance, no whole life or UL. Simply tell them they will get tons of stuff in the mail so we should take care of it then. On a cash out refi get them to pay one year premium so no charge backs.
Robml

26 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  7:33:38 PM
Thanks Richard. Do you work with life insurance agents as a referral source?
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rtrefflich

1806 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  7:37:05 PM
Not really Im a licensed Life & health in CA and UT so I just use it as a supplemental income. For insurance referrals, go to your CPA.
Robml

26 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  8:05:26 PM
I've learned to leverage the information I obtain on a 1003 to channel business towards life insurance and financial planning.

Think about it, we gather as much information on our application that a CFP does. The only difference is that they are asking the questions for different reasons. Basically, we can get in 30 minutes what they take weeks, months, or years to obtain. I've learned to use my license as a way to pass the client to the planner. I basically do "joint work" with them. So I get 50% of the split on the life insurance side. It works out well, since the planner does the back end work. I just gather the information and pass it to them, as long as the client is OK with it.

I've been gearing my practice toward this for a couple of years, though it's really making life easy right now in this market.

I'd really like to hear what others are doing regarding this.

Thanks in advance.

Rob
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rtrefflich

1806 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  8:51:12 PM
Are you life insurance licensed? In CA and UT it is illegal for you to receive anything on a life insurance policy if you are not licensed. I have a financial planning/investment company and we have used the 1003 to help our business on so many levels. It is hard to get a new client to give you all of their information, but on the 1003 it is all there.


quote:
Originally posted by Robml

I've learned to leverage the information I obtain on a 1003 to channel business towards life insurance and financial planning.

Think about it, we gather as much information on our application that a CFP does. The only difference is that they are asking the questions for different reasons. Basically, we can get in 30 minutes what they take weeks, months, or years to obtain. I've learned to use my license as a way to pass the client to the planner. I basically do "joint work" with them. So I get 50% of the split on the life insurance side. It works out well, since the planner does the back end work. I just gather the information and pass it to them, as long as the client is OK with it.

I've been gearing my practice toward this for a couple of years, though it's really making life easy right now in this market.

I'd really like to hear what others are doing regarding this.

Thanks in advance.

Rob

Robml

26 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  04:55:18 AM
Yes, I have my Life license. It's pretty easy to obtain. Even if it were difficult, I'd still do it. I've made a lot of money this year doing this.

As loan originators, we are not allowed to co-broker. It's illegal. Though, in every other industry it's promoted.

Rob
gopackers

393 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  07:40:27 AM
I offer life insurance and investments to my clients. refi a client and save them $800 a month and show them how to invest half that money so they can retire comfortably. this is a no brainer and it helps close the mortgage because i now add a lot more value to my clients. i have been slowly transitioning more towards financial services then mortgages lately.
Cornelius

105 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  09:38:06 AM
Many states are currently going towards online prelicensing. Calif. has recently changed the licensing process to allow online prelicensing education. http://www.insurance.ca.gov/

Look here for your individual state licensing requirements http://www.hbwinc.com/links/links.shtml and let's get you licensed.

At HBW Insurance & Financial Services you will have ownership of your clients from day one.

For the Calif. producers, give this a quick read.
http://www.insurance.ca.gov/0100-consumers/0250-seniors-issues/senior-stranger-owned-life-insurance.cfm

Cornelius N. Key
www.hbwinc.com
(510) 292-8956
Cornelius

105 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  10:22:41 AM
Something else to think about is considering your clients are purchasing or refinancing a home ater all the deals are done they should consider updating their Estate Plan and consider the possibility
of Identity Theft. As we know when personal information is given out it can go through many channels. How much of the process may be out sourced to whomever?

So consider offering a Prepaid Legal Plan along with Identity Theft Shield. www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/ckey

ID Theft is a major concern:
http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/ChronDataBreaches.htm

Videos: http://fortunevideos.com/sitemap.aspx



Cornelius N. Key
Independent Associate
(510) 292-8956
www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/ckey
khoiey

938 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  10:30:23 AM
I understand that MLM is a way of business, but didn't you use to promote HBW or something?

quote:
Originally posted by Cornelius

Something else to think about is considering your clients are purchasing or refinancing a home ater all the deals are done they should consider updating their Estate Plan and consider the possibility
of Identity Theft. As we know when personal information is given out it can go through many channels. How much of the process may be out sourced to whomever?

So consider offering a Prepaid Legal Plan along with Identity Theft Shield. www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/ckey

ID Theft is a major concern:
http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/ChronDataBreaches.htm

Videos: http://fortunevideos.com/sitemap.aspx



Cornelius N. Key
Independent Associate
(510) 292-8956
www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/ckey

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JasonAaron1

944 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  11:37:15 AM
Is it legal to do home insurance and the loan on the same transaction?
khoiey

938 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  11:44:27 AM
No it is not illegal.

quote:
Originally posted by JasonAaron1

Is it legal to do home insurance and the loan on the same transaction?

Cornelius

105 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  1:48:30 PM
Yes I do market with HBW, but I do have the freedom to have other
business ventures if I so choose. HBW and Prepaid Legal are two seperate individual businesses.

HBW gives me access to Financial Products. Be it Insurance, Investments or Mortgages. PPL gives me the access to their Legal Plans.
Each business can be sold at a later date if I so choose. That's the important part about team building and ownership.

Many people signup with oprganizations and don't even look at their contracts. It's great to offer clients different products, but theirs also the business side. There's a reason companies include noncompetes and spell out who owns what or whom. They are protecting themselves. I can understand that way of thinking. As a business builder I should be thinking the same way.

As for Prepaid Legal if a person builds a good size team at death that business can just pass on to the spouse or whomever. Then to top it off the plans pay residuals. The plans can be offered to individuals, as a group plan for business employees, individual business plans for the business, and some specialty plans. Ex: Real Estate agents, Teachers, CDL drivers..

I look at tit this way. With HBW I can have the ability to go to a company and offer them Financial Products, and then also offer Legal programs from Prepaid Legal.. They are two seperate individual businesses that can feed each other. I can individually produce and when there's a need for help, that's when I bring in the team i'm build.

It's not about MLM, it's about building a business machine. Hey this is just my way of thinking. Here's another plus. As we know some people may get turned off because of licensing requirements for Financial Services. Well with some marketing organizations there's nothing for those people.

Well in most states Prepaid Legal has no licensing requirements, and there's currently no licensing requirement to offer the Legal Shield in any state. HBW/Victory Mortgage has no licensing requirement nationwide. We have a lead referral program, which is a great program for others to use as a add on.

HBW/Victory Mortgage Program: http://www.hbwvictory.com/HBW-Realtor-Business-Building-Webinar.php

Cornelius N. Key
(510) 292-8956
neilpfs@yahoo.com
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rtrefflich

1806 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  10:31:17 PM
Be careful with PPL as far as needing to use it to defend yourself in a law suit. I have a guy who works for me and uses it for contracts, has used it for help with an eviction and some letter writing but when I tried to use it when I got sued, it was horrible trying to get service. When my brother in law tried using his for his divorce they wouldn't cover it either, so I know they say it is the best thing in the world, I too sell/have sold it, if you know what you can use it for and what they won't let you it will benefit you a lot more in the future.




quote:
Originally posted by Cornelius

Yes I do market with HBW, but I do have the freedom to have other
business ventures if I so choose. HBW and Prepaid Legal are two seperate individual businesses.

HBW gives me access to Financial Products. Be it Insurance, Investments or Mortgages. PPL gives me the access to their Legal Plans.
Each business can be sold at a later date if I so choose. That's the important part about team building and ownership.

Many people signup with oprganizations and don't even look at their contracts. It's great to offer clients different products, but theirs also the business side. There's a reason companies include noncompetes and spell out who owns what or whom. They are protecting themselves. I can understand that way of thinking. As a business builder I should be thinking the same way.

As for Prepaid Legal if a person builds a good size team at death that business can just pass on to the spouse or whomever. Then to top it off the plans pay residuals. The plans can be offered to individuals, as a group plan for business employees, individual business plans for the business, and some specialty plans. Ex: Real Estate agents, Teachers, CDL drivers..

I look at tit this way. With HBW I can have the ability to go to a company and offer them Financial Products, and then also offer Legal programs from Prepaid Legal.. They are two seperate individual businesses that can feed each other. I can individually produce and when there's a need for help, that's when I bring in the team i'm build.

It's not about MLM, it's about building a business machine. Hey this is just my way of thinking. Here's another plus. As we know some people may get turned off because of licensing requirements for Financial Services. Well with some marketing organizations there's nothing for those people.

Well in most states Prepaid Legal has no licensing requirements, and there's currently no licensing requirement to offer the Legal Shield in any state. HBW/Victory Mortgage has no licensing requirement nationwide. We have a lead referral program, which is a great program for others to use as a add on.

HBW/Victory Mortgage Program: http://www.hbwvictory.com/HBW-Realtor-Business-Building-Webinar.php

Cornelius N. Key
(510) 292-8956
neilpfs@yahoo.com

Cornelius

105 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2008 :  09:44:52 AM
Mr. Trefflich you are correct. The legal plans do not cover every
legal situation, but that's where the discounts come in. I always
stress that people read the contract and know how to use the service.

Cornelius N. Key
(510) 292-8956
www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/ckey
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