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Polly
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 Posted - 03/29/2008 : 09:04:33 AM
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http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/320/ripoff0320146.htm
This might be old news but I thought you might get a chuckle
out of it.
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Scrooge McDuck
6555 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 09:07:41 AM
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| i trust terry from new york. |
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Scrooge McDuck
6555 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 09:08:38 AM
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| also, notice that they lump darkstar w darrin. just cause hes at the top, people assume stephen owns the place. |
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ehm3
770 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 09:10:43 AM
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| what a jackass, is there even one thing in that entire diatribe that approaches factual? |
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brandie
2682 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 09:15:19 AM
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That artical is so full of bullpoop! There was so many things wrong with it, one they can't get the info correct and two it was written by someone that just doesn't like BO.
Terry just made a total idoit out of his own self. He was probably banned from BO.
Now lets play a game on who do you think Terry was on BO?
Could it be:
Mortgage ( the one that was giving away leads that where stolen from New Century?) |
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darkstar
13781 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 09:28:16 AM
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| I don't care where you are, that's some funny schtuff! |
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mortgagemessiah
6561 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 09:45:12 AM
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| I got your back dude! I filed a rebuttal. |
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assassin17
2608 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 09:45:51 AM
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Well, it definitely deserved a rebuttal, which I hope gets posted;
This report is filled with many inaccuracies and I can only guess at the motivation behind them. First off, Darin Ferraro and 'Darkstar' are definitely not the same person. Darin is the creator of the forum and he is based in Las Vegas.
As a frequent user of the Broker Outpost Forum, I have had contact with other users. One of these is known as 'Darkstar', whom I designed an unrelated project for, and I am positive that my caller ID from his residence does not show his name to be Darin Ferraro or a Las Vegas area code. (Just as a note, his accent helps confirm his location also.)
While not a 'marketing tool', as suggested, BO does allow for it's own small advertising spaces and a separate area for vendors related to the mortgage business. I see nothing unusual about this and Darin goes to great lengths to separate the vendors from infiltrating the opinionated topics of discussion.
As an internet forum for mortgage professionals, there are very few competitors and any postings "bashing" other forums would be the result of the users, not the owner. Nor would this be considered unusual practice on an internet forum.
The assertion here is that the owner and 'Darkstar' are the same person attempting to sell services. This is untrue. While 'Darkstar' does have a vendor project on the side, which he does promote, he also is a morgage professional and contributes greatly to the discussions. It is true that Darin allows vendors to advertise services in their section, but that is one of the stated purposes of the forum in allowing the users to find additional resources for their business purposes.
Posts and positive comments abound for many competitors, and they are only removed if the poster violates the rules of the forum, which are stated upfront when you register to post. I have never seen a legitimate post removed on it's own merit, without some other dramatic posting violation being performed by that poster.
The cited list of "Do Not Use" of internet lead vendors was compiled by user comments and not by the owner's whim. However, as the manager of that FREE site he has every right to organize it's content of his own accord.
My assumption can only be that the poster of the original report is a vendor who was banned and seeking some sort of revenge against a free forum after knowingly violating it's clearly-stated rules. The original report is filled with inaccuracies and personal assumptions, none of which I have experienced on Broker Outpost, which has a reputation amongst it's users as the best forum for mortgage-related professionals to receive guidance, information, and resources. It's also a very good place to just hang out and exchange opinions. - Assassin17 |
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darkstar
13781 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 09:57:50 AM
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| Couldn't have said it better myself!... |
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Tsnyder
7499 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 10:26:02 AM
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I offered the following rebuttal...
The report filed by Terry Henderson is full of inaccurate information and should not be relied upon for any purpose.
I am a long time member of the Outpost. You can find me under the user name Tsnyder. There hasn't been much that's happened at the Outpost that I don't know about.
First, Henderson says that Darin Ferraro operates under the user name Darkstar. That's incorrect. Darkstar is a lead supplier who is also a member of the Outpost. He lives in Kentucky. I've spoken with him many times. Darin lives in Las Vegas. I've also spoken with him. They aren't the same person. Darin, in fact, doesn't use a 'screen' name. He posts to the forum under his real name.
Second, Henderson says that Darin lists several lead companies on some kind of "do not use" list. That's false. That list does exist on the Outpost but it was posted by another member based on his opinion and experience with those companies.
Third, Henderson says that Darin sells premium memberships to vendors for some purpose. That's actually funny. The premium membership is available to all members. I happen to be a premium member. There is no advantage that I can see for a vendor to become a premium member. Premium membership simply gives one access to a private forum along with several tools used by premium members to build content for their personal websites.
Broker Outpost is, bar none, the most professional mortgage industry forum I've found. It's a place where one can ask just about any question relating to the mortgage business and find accurate answers provided by very knowledgable and dedicated industry professionals.
In an effort to maintain the professionalism of the forum Darin has conspicuously posted rules for participation. Those rules include no spamming the general forum... he provides an announcements forum where all may post advertising free of charge... and no personal attacks on other forum members.
I suspect that Mr. Henderson ran afoul of those rules and was banned from the site. Hence, his negative and inaccurate report. Mr. Henderson must have been a member at one time in order to have the knowledge he claims. It would be interesting for Mr. Henderson to post the user name he employed at the Outpost. We'd then be able to find out what happened with him... assuming he posts the true user name.
Terry Snyder |
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Tsnyder
7499 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 10:47:01 AM
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The same bonehead posted a 2nd report... notice that when you
post a report the system automatically includes the name and location
of the poster at the top... but the bonehead tried to make it look
like two separate complainers by signing this reprt as "Perry" from
Ohio... lol... what a jerk!
Here's the link to the 2nd report...
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/320/RipOff0320436.htm
Here's the rebuttal I filed...
The first thing I'd note is that there are precisely two reports about Broker Outpost and Darin Ferraro on this site... both of them posted by the same guy who identifies himself as Terry Henderson from NY.
The other can be found at this link:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/320/RipOff0320146.htm
The reason I mention this is because his latest rant is "signed" at the bottom by someone named "Perry" from Ohio. Am I the only one who finds that odd?
Terry/Perry says that Darin talked him into buying a premium membership for the purpose of then, apparently, buying leads and trashing other companies in some kind of chatrooms.
I think Mr. Terry/Perry is confused. I've never seen Darin selling leads on the Outpost and I've been there almost since Day 1.
Mr. Terry/Perry also claims that Darin owns a site called flippingfrenzy.com That's another piece of inaccurate information. I thought pretty much everyone in the mortgage business knew that the Flipping Frenzy site belongs to Ralph Roberts. Ralph is a long time crusader against mortgage fraud. He has several published books on the subject.
Mr. Terry/Perry seems to have a problem providing accurate facts... not to mention he doesn't seem to know his own true identity.
Terry Snyder |
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mortgage.monkee
82 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 10:53:48 AM
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| damn, i had no idea there were so many articulate members here. those replies were fantastic and well thought out. i'll have to carefully monitor my posts from now on. |
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assassin17
2608 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 1:04:00 PM
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And I just now realize that I misspelled "morgage" and didn't catch it. DOH! That'll leave a mark.
Me like gud wordz. |
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Banker0679
6239 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 5:51:03 PM
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| i wonder if it's a disgruntled user that was band |
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darkstar
13781 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 6:08:44 PM
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Anyone see where I put the keys to the Lambo?...Hate when that happens...
Very eloquent and articulate rebuttals guys... |
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Banker0679
6239 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 6:22:05 PM
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stop trying to get your post count higher lol
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Originally posted by darkstar
Anyone see where I put the keys to the Lambo?...Hate when that happens...
Very eloquent and articulate rebuttals guys...
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assassin17
2608 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 6:22:17 PM
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| I tihnk it was that clown that tried to sell leads in a post and got blasted for not placing it in the announcements, then he started cussing at everyone. Can't remember his name, but it was a recent banning, I think. |
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NNMS
990 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 6:24:47 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by assassin17
I tihnk it was that clown that tried to sell leads in a post and got blasted for not placing it in the announcements, then he started cussing at everyone. Can't remember his name, but it was a recent banning, I think.
Dang assassin with two asses, TWO typos in ONE day? "BAND" is the proper spelling...  |
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Banker0679
6239 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 6:31:11 PM
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lol
i never caught that
quote:
Originally posted by NNMS
quote:
Originally posted by assassin17
I tihnk it was that clown that tried to sell leads in a post and got blasted for not placing it in the announcements, then he started cussing at everyone. Can't remember his name, but it was a recent banning, I think.
Dang assassin with two asses, TWO typos in ONE day? "BAND" is the proper spelling...
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NNMS
990 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 6:32:27 PM
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LOL... I can't take credit... Kathi pointed it out earlier!!!  |
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