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jyt123

25 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  3:18:13 PM
If there is 10 months or less owing on a car payment can this payment be excluded from the DTI according to FHA guidelines.

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EMScommercial

3512 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  3:22:57 PM
check with ppulatie....
jvanpetten

1631 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  3:51:38 PM
DU/LP will usually not count it in the DR.
dkendall1979

6842 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  3:55:17 PM
Yes, can be excluded.

With us anyway.
jvanpetten

1631 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  3:56:25 PM
Did you run it?
jyt123

25 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  4:00:15 PM
Manuel uw. I couldn't get in touch with my uw or ae that is why I was asking the question.
ehm3

763 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  4:03:56 PM
short term debts with FHA are at the underwriter discretion. As long as the debt does not interfere with the ability to make the house payment, it can be excluded. Yes, that is very ambiguous, so don't be surprised if you have to fight with UW's on this a lot.

generally the best way to determine this is if the borrower is currently handling a similar debt load, or the borrower has cash reserves that could be used to get thru that time. But I am sure there are other ideas that could be used to justify it as well.
jvanpetten

1631 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  4:18:00 PM
Make sure it is not a lease. That always gets counted. The Underwriter will assume that they will turn in the car and get another. I have tried that fight before and did not win.

With a manual, your DR really can't be too far off the guidelines. They are tough on DR on a manual.
MoneyLenderP

927 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  4:19:35 PM
within 12 months and not a lease you can get this done.
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liverichly

3083 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  4:22:02 PM
All installment accounts with ten payments or more remaining will be included in long term obligations for qualifying purposes. Payments less than 10 months remaining that are of such size as to impact applicant’s ability to make the mortgage payments will be counted in the qualifying ratios.

Example: Monthly payments of $300 on an auto loan with a remaining balance of $1500, even though it should be paid out in 5 months, would be considered significant.
1stintegritymort

1165 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  4:29:43 PM
i just closed one of these recently and the UW sent me the guidelines. they say that if there are 10 payments or less they do not count it, but if there are late payments they do count it. my borrower only had 3 payments left but had lates so she had to pay off the car prior to closing to make the loan go through. those were fha guidelines, not the lenders...
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