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raymondb
4195 Posts |
 Posted - 03/25/2008 : 10:34:34 AM
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RESPONSES ARE GOING BACK UP ON DIRECT MAIL!
Types of Mailers
ARMS, REVERSE, VA, FHA , FHA STREAMLINE, PURCHASE, BAILOUTS, LOAN MODIFICATION, SHORT SALE, ......AND YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE YOUR OWN
With consumer confidence going back up due to recent rate drops, direct mail response numbers going back up on the latest version of FHA streamline, ARM recast, Purchase and Reverse Mortgage Mailers and postcards are all forms of marketing that are now working effectively. When rates are low and the people believe in our banking system then they simply respond better to our advertisements. this is obvious from the last few batches of mail campaigns. We are back over .75% on some of the #10 envelope drops and we have scene as high as 2.5-3% on the over night packages on certain drops. Bottom line for me is that Direct mail is working again for the mortgage industry.
WE have several packages for the direct mail campaigns. Minimum starting as low aas 2500 pieces. We offer post cards, #10 envelopes and the 6 x 9 over night looking pieces as well. You can read more about our different printing and packaging here....
http://www.bestratereferrals.com/mailers.html
WE also offer the best selection of databases around from ARM to FHA and reverse. We also work very hard on keeping our renters database up to date so that you can convert the renters in your area that make a good income to buyers.
You can view our different databases here...
http://www.bestratereferrals.com/data.html
If you have any questions regarding any direct mail campaigns please post away.
SUMMER SPECIALS
For every 10,000 mail pieces dropped you will get 30 days on our Phaze 2 for free so that you can pound the list you mailed to. If your mailing to a mail only list then we can pull a callable list for you to call on in addition to your mailer. We are doing this to get more people on our dialing system BECAUSE IT ROCKS! The dialer flat out works so if you do 10k piece mailer I'll use the profit to pay for your Phaze 2!
In addition WE HAVE MARKED OUR CONSUMER DATABASE DOWN TO 5 CENTS WITH ANY MAIL CAMPAIGN!!
Thanks! |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2008 : 11:02:13 AM
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Responses have gone up to the following averages.
#10 - we are seeing anywhere from .5 % respons to 1.25 % respons. on the over night envelopes we have consistently averages from 1-2.75% respons time and time again.
These are true numbers as you all know I never over sell or exagerate anything.
If you have any questions please let me know.
Thanks! |
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Cliff_Auerswald
450 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 10:24:31 AM
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| I'm pricing out my mailers now, have all my own data looking to mail 20k month. email me or call please |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 10:30:30 AM
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I just left you a message bud. I also shot you an email.
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Originally posted by Cliff_Auerswald
I'm pricing out my mailers now, have all my own data looking to mail 20k month. email me or call please
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Imaloaner
98 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 8:51:26 PM
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| Check out www.amazingresponse.net, cheaper then buying the leads and it works. |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 8:58:37 PM
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First off that link isn't working and secondly thats not professional to post links like that to competitors of the provider that started the thread.
Besides that i do everything for my clients. i consult them on the market they are in and how to effectively mail to them. We derive their list for them, print the piece, package and deliver the piece at our bulk rate cost to the client. Plus your dealing with the owner of a company and not some sales rep at a .com. No other company does what Best Rate Referrals does. BOTTOM LINE!!!!
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bry7982
263 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2008 : 08:44:13 AM
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Since Raymond has been weak on data for Wisconsin I pulled the trigger
on a 2500 piece mailer. I went with the color letter/envelope #10
package and for data we went with arm recast data on the DNC. I have
always been leery of mail campaigns but I am starting to become a
believer. Our drop was on Saturday and today was the first day we
received phone calls. Tonight's totals are at 17 calls and 10 Apps! Ill
know tomorrow how many are going to shake out to be sellable deals (
which is all that matters to me). This drop came out to be about .65 a
piece so it should not be hard to get a pretty good ROI. Question for
Raymond... If I go with 5k on the next one can I break it up into two
or three drops? I only have three guys that work out of this office
and I do not want to get them over whelmed.
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2008 : 1:11:57 PM
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Thats good stuff bud. Im glad to hear the first day went well. Keep me posted bud on todays calls and tomorrow. I bet it will slow down after today and then more after tomorrow. but so far .007% is pretty good off the first day alone.
To answer your question about breaking up bigger orders..... Yes we can print the volume so that you can save money on the print and then drop them in smaller batches. its just that the minimum is 2500 per drop. Each additional drop on the same print does cost about $30 so keep that in mind.
If you have any more questions please fire away. Tell your guys to make it happen on those call ins. |
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tei
39 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2008 : 11:32:04 AM
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Originally posted by Imaloaner
Check out www.amazingresponse.net, cheaper then buying the leads and it works.
Went to the website. NO rates, No pricing, NO example of what the mailer would look like or say. NO info on type of mailer eg. #10 envelope, 4x6 postcard, 6x8 postcard etc NO cost per 1000. I don't mind you giving an alternative but give us something good. Right now you simply come off as a slick internet leads sales person. The only thing I do know is that you want a "one time" $44 up front. What's up with the used car salesman routine???? I vote that you get banned for posting a link to such an asswipe of a website! |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2008 : 3:17:04 PM
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LMAO!!! NOW THATS FUNNY.
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Originally posted by tei
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Originally posted by Imaloaner
Check out www.amazingresponse.net, cheaper then buying the leads and it works.
Went to the website. NO rates, No pricing, NO example of what the mailer would look like or say. NO info on type of mailer eg. #10 envelope, 4x6 postcard, 6x8 postcard etc NO cost per 1000. I don't mind you giving an alternative but give us something good. Right now you simply come off as a slick internet leads sales person. The only thing I do know is that you want a "one time" $44 up front. What's up with the used car salesman routine???? I vote that you get banned for posting a link to such an asswipe of a website!
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mortgageplanforl
124 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2008 : 7:19:51 PM
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2008 : 06:18:18 AM
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Yeah I try to go back and fix spelling errors and grammer mistakes when i have time. Sorry for the inconvenience. I just want it to read right for you guys. Dont forget that alot of providers do bump their threads as well so that may be the reason why your seeing that.
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Originally posted by mortgageplanforlife
How do the posts move when there is no post for today?? Are you guys just updating an old post to move these things up the list??? (and it just not this one, this was just the 3rd or 4th one I went to read the "new" post and there wasn't one!!!
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mortgageplanforl
124 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2008 : 10:40:58 AM
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That is what I thought...I know some do it just to bump the thread....I think they should put a rule in, if you are bumping your own thread there has to be some added value to the thread (probably hard to police, but would make it better for the readers)
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2008 : 10:48:58 AM
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Yeah some do it religiously to bump their thread but to be honest if they pay to sponsor the site then they are paying for the advertising. You can unsubscribe to the topic at the bottom of that topic's page if you want.
Any more questions on Direct Mail is appreciated.
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Originally posted by mortgageplanforlife
That is what I thought...I know some do it just to bump the thread....I think they should put a rule in, if you are bumping your own thread there has to be some added value to the thread (probably hard to police, but would make it better for the readers)
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mortgageplanforl
124 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2008 : 11:10:28 AM
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Last thing about the thread bumping..it is not the emails I get that bothers me, it is the "disappointment" when I click to read the "new" info and there is nothing there. So the people posting announcements pay to post the announcement?
Now for a mailer question and this ties into the Telemarketing you are going to be doing (hopefully starting today!! You get the check?) for me. You said there are only about 5000 callable records in Ohio...can we do a mailer to the people on the DNC with the same data type you are calling for me? And if so, cost? And have you done a campaign like this yet? Any results??
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2008 : 12:09:49 PM
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I didn't say that I pay to post announcement but some of us do pay sponsorships to advertise on the front page along with banners through out the site. So obviously we want our threads to get good traffic as well. Sorry for dis-appointing on the no posts. Sometimes I go through and edit my posts on spelling and grammer. That way I am fixing the post and bumping too, killing 2 birds with one stone. 
As for your mail questions, Yes we do have mailable names that we can mail to so that we can hit up the Recasting ARMs that are on the DNC. We do the entire mail drop including Print, stuff the envelope, pull the targeted list, and ship at our bulk rate.
Prices depend on quantity and if you call me I can walk you through our website and show you the different packages. I pull the data at our true cost to you so that im assured your drop will hit the right people, this helps me ensure my client retention by way of GETTING A RESPONSE ON EVERY DROP!
Call me bud and we can discuss your options...
702-205-0502
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Originally posted by mortgageplanforlife
Last thing about the thread bumping..it is not the emails I get that bothers me, it is the "disappointment" when I click to read the "new" info and there is nothing there. So the people posting announcements pay to post the announcement?
Now for a mailer question and this ties into the Telemarketing you are going to be doing (hopefully starting today!! You get the check?) for me. You said there are only about 5000 callable records in Ohio...can we do a mailer to the people on the DNC with the same data type you are calling for me? And if so, cost? And have you done a campaign like this yet? Any results??
Thanks!
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bry7982
263 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2008 : 4:16:56 PM
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This week has been awesome!!!!!! I am still averaging 2-5 calls a day
so far this week from the drop almost 2 weeks ago!!!! As a result of
last week I now have docs IN on 5 deals. My average loan size is about
150K which is a little light even for Wisconsin. Anyway we can look at
targeting a higher value area? I know WI is not so great for data. As
for the next drop hit me up next week by then I would think this
campaigns effectiveness would die out (I hope not though). The first drop went great. How would the responses vary if I did a second mailer to the same addresess?
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svallance
29 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2008 : 11:14:15 AM
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Brian, I remember reading a thread you started about buying live transfer leads or call backs?? How did that work out for you?
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2008 : 11:19:09 AM
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http://www.brokeroutpost.com/loans/brokers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=200839
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Originally posted by svallance
Brian, I remember reading a thread you started about buying live transfer leads or call backs?? How did that work out for you?
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bry7982
263 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2008 : 12:35:26 PM
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| The imediate call backs went and are going great! The problem is that data for Wisconsin is very hard to come by for a lot of lead companies. So coming up with quanity for both of my offices has been difficult. So I have started sending mailers to borrowers with arms that are on the DNC. So far the two have been a great combo. I have had pitiful luck with interenet leads and my guys are to spoiled to call triggers and dial for dollars. |
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zsouth
50 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2008 : 08:22:10 AM
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Thanks for posting your results! Ill let Raymond know you posted. He asked me to answer any questions while he was finishing up another call center. If you need anything til Wednesday let me know.
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Originally posted by bry7982
The imediate call backs went and are going great! The problem is that data for Wisconsin is very hard to come by for a lot of lead companies. So coming up with quanity for both of my offices has been difficult. So I have started sending mailers to borrowers with arms that are on the DNC. So far the two have been a great combo. I have had pitiful luck with interenet leads and my guys are to spoiled to call triggers and dial for dollars.
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2008 : 08:58:50 AM
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Thanks Zach, i didn't want anyone to think i missed the question I just didn't have much time to respond.
Bryan, We certainly could mail to the same list minus the response and any returns. I think maybe hitting them with a different envelope on the second one. Some times its all about timing and the packaging. if you got a good response the first time try it again and see what happens. Maybe mix in a few new addresses for the ones we loose due to the response and returns and then send it again.
Glad to hear your still getting calls days after the drop. thats good stuff. That usually means that the envelope is attractive and ti got opened. then the letter was appealing but hey set it aside when they get more time. These type are really looking to do something not just shop rates most of the time.
Let me know when you get all your deals under control and your ready for another drop.
Thanks!
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Originally posted by bry7982
The imediate call backs went and are going great! The problem is that data for Wisconsin is very hard to come by for a lot of lead companies. So coming up with quanity for both of my offices has been difficult. So I have started sending mailers to borrowers with arms that are on the DNC. So far the two have been a great combo. I have had pitiful luck with interenet leads and my guys are to spoiled to call triggers and dial for dollars.
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2008 : 2:37:26 PM
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SUMMER SPECIALS!!
April 10th - August 15th
For every 10,000 mail pieces dropped you will get 30 days on our Phaze 2 for free so that you can pound the list you mailed to. If your mailing to a mail only list then we can pull a callable list for you to call on in addition to your mailer. We are doing this to get more people on our system. The dialer flat out works so if you do 10k piece mailer I'll use the profit to pay for your Phaze 2! You can read about the phaze 2 here..
http://bestratereferrals.com/consulting-lpbp2.html
If you have any questions please let me know.
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hockeyguy
255 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2008 : 7:37:02 PM
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| I've been follow BO for a while now and it seems that at some point I have to give you a shot. All I hear is good things. I would be interested in MN mailouts of some sort. I do I go about pricing and wahts available? Thanks for your help |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2008 : 8:10:44 PM
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I'll be around in the AM PST. Let me know exactly what your looking to do or we can customize something for you from what we have to offer. WE can basically print anything even though I have some templated letters that are working very well. i will be more than happy to walk you through them all, just let me know when you are available.
Thanks!
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Originally posted by hockeyguy
I've been follow BO for a while now and it seems that at some point I have to give you a shot. All I hear is good things. I would be interested in MN mailouts of some sort. I do I go about pricing and wahts available? Thanks for your help
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2008 : 06:38:05 AM
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| Remember folks....per our special on FREE ARM leads for every $500 you spend on Mail you also get 100 ARM leads that are coming due in your target area. This is a great special. Read the link in my signature to learn more. |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2008 : 06:50:27 AM
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| HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO ALL YOU DAD'S OUT THERE. WE BUST OUR BUTTS FOR OUR BABIES AND OTHER YOUNGINS AND TODAY IS OUR DAY. ENJOY THE DAY!!! |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 09:30:12 AM
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Loan mod fever made me jump in...hehe. WE have been running some testing on a couple different databases....
ARMs- consistently hitting 1-2% response on post cards and mailers!
the other database is a secret for now. I will be unleashing that in the next few days but i wanted to put the feelers out there, we are seeing over 20% RESPONSE on each piece we send to this new database, everyone in my data bank needs help. Nice thing is that with me you will be the first to hit this database no matter when you decide to mail.
STAY TUNED!!!
THIS IS THE BEST MAIL PRODUCT I HAVE EVER SEEN! COMING SOON! |
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psantos
571 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2008 : 12:36:54 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by raymondb
Loan mod fever made me jump in...hehe. WE have been running some testing on a couple different databases....
ARMs- consistently hitting 1-2% response on post cards and mailers!
the other database is a secret for now. I will be unleashing that in the next few days but i wanted to put the feelers out there, we are seeing over 20% RESPONSE on each piece we send to this new database, everyone in my data bank needs help. Nice thing is that with me you will be the first to hit this database no matter when you decide to mail.
STAY TUNED!!!
THIS IS THE BEST MAIL PRODUCT I HAVE EVER SEEN! COMING SOON!
Give it up! What is it? I won't tell anyone!
I have been trying to convince the owner, to use direct mail again.
Paul |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2008 : 07:37:33 AM
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Ok here is a hint.....it going to make anyone doing short sales or loan mods very successful. For the law firm based companies that do LM, SS, and the BK this mailer may be the only advertising you will ever need.....truly!
WE will have it live for sale by Wednesday!
Stay tuned! |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2008 : 7:10:37 PM
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OK OK it is Here!!!!
You can view all the options here for this industries new marketing platform including our new mail piece.... Over 10% response on every piece we sent out....testimonials from our test campaigns are already on the board....
http://www.brokeroutpost.com/loans/brokers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=230341
or view our options here...
http://bestratereferrals.com/loan_modification_leads.html
If you have any questions please fire away....
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success07
639 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2008 : 7:18:22 PM
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Hey Raymond hows it going so far so good on those leads you sold me for the loan mods but now im interested on these type of leads to mail out if they can refi why not if not then I can always offer them a Loan Mod. Please send me more info and the min. to order. Thanks man!
quote:
Originally posted by raymondb
RESPONSES ARE GOING BACK UP ON DIRECT MAIL!!
Types of Mailers
ARMS, REVERSE, VA, FHA , FHA STREAMLINE, PURCHASE, BAILOUTS, LOAN MODIFICATION, SHORT SALE, .......AND YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE YOUR OWN
With consumer confidence going back up due to recent rate drops, direct mail response numbers going back up on the latest version of FHA streamline, ARM recast, Purchase and Reverse Mortgage Mailers and postcards are all forms of marketing that are now working effectively. When rates are low and the people believe in our banking system then they simply respond better to our advertisements. this is obvious from the last few batches of mail campaigns. We are back over .75% on some of the #10 envelope drops and we have scene as high as 2.5-3% on the over night packages on certain drops. Bottom line for me is that Direct mail is working again for the mortgage industry.
WE have several packages for the direct mail campaigns. Minimum starting as low aas 2500 pieces. We offer post cards, #10 envelopes and the 6 x 9 over night looking pieces as well. You can read more about our different printing and packaging here....
http://www.bestratereferrals.com/mailers.html
WE also offer the best selection of databases around from ARM to FHA and reverse. We also work very hard on keeping our renters database up to date so that you can convert the renters in your area that make a good income to buyers.
You can view our different databases here...
http://www.bestratereferrals.com/data.html
If you have any questions regarding any direct mail campaigns please post away.
SUMMER SPECIALS
For every 10,000 mail pieces dropped you will get 30 days on our Phaze 2 for free so that you can pound the list you mailed to. If your mailing to a mail only list then we can pull a callable list for you to call on in addition to your mailer. We are doing this to get more people on our dialing system BECAUSE IT ROCKS! The dialer flat out works so if you do 10k piece mailer I'll use the profit to pay for your Phaze 2!
In addition WE HAVE MARKED OUR CONSUMER DATABASE DOWN TO 5 CENTS WITH ANY MAIL CAMPAIGN!!
Thanks!
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2008 : 10:07:10 AM
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| Give me a call at your convenience Joe and we can discuss this option. THanks. |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2008 : 08:38:08 AM
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Check out these recent testimonials.....
http://www.brokeroutpost.com/loans/brokers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=230341
Right here on the outpost! |
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bry7982
263 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2008 : 10:06:52 AM
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Raymond,
Have Zach call me I am looking to set up a drop ASAP! |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2008 : 08:10:23 AM
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Did you guys get this squared away bud? Let me know if you need anything.
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Originally posted by bry7982
Raymond,
Have Zach call me I am looking to set up a drop ASAP!
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bry7982
263 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2008 : 12:38:08 PM
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| Zach was going to run some numbers and get back to me. See if he can get back to me sometime today. |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2008 : 12:43:39 PM
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He did that but got no response form you. Call me bud and we will get you going. Thanks!
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Originally posted by bry7982
Zach was going to run some numbers and get back to me. See if he can get back to me sometime today.
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bry7982
263 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2008 : 12:48:17 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by raymondb
He did that bud but got no response form you. Call me bud and we will get you going. Thanks!
quote:
Originally posted by bry7982
Zach was going to run some numbers and get back to me. See if he can get back to me sometime today.
LIES LIES LIES LIES! Thats cool Ill call him in a few.... |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2008 : 1:07:56 PM
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LMAO.....sounds good dude!
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Originally posted by bry7982
quote:
Originally posted by raymondb
He did that bud but got no response form you. Call me bud and we will get you going. Thanks!
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Originally posted by bry7982
Zach was going to run some numbers and get back to me. See if he can get back to me sometime today.
LIES LIES LIES LIES! Thats cool Ill call him in a few....
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321
24 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2008 : 2:51:51 PM
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Please send me more info, thanks
mtgexperts@yahoo.com
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2008 : 06:40:23 AM
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sent..
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Originally posted by 321
Please send me more info, thanks
mtgexperts@yahoo.com
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rad
1403 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2008 : 08:21:45 AM
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When it suits Raymond only will he follow up.
His follow up is self-serving.
Awful customer service.
Beware! |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2008 : 08:53:07 AM
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are you kidding me? I was emailing back and forth to you until 8:00 pm the other night and the last thing i sent to you was let me know if you need any more help. How is that not customer service? I mean heck i spent a lot of time with you so far and you haven't even ordered. That should tell you something. I'm not sure what else you wanted me to do for you but my ears are still open, if you need help let me know.
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Originally posted by rad
When it suits Raymond only will he follow up.
His follow up is self-serving.
Awful customer service.
Beware!
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rad
1403 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2008 : 09:16:19 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by raymondb
are you kidding me? I was emailing back and forth to you until 8:00 pm the other night and the last thing i sent to you was let me know if you need any more help. How is that not customer service? I mean heck i spent a lot of time with you so far and you haven't even ordered. That should tell you something. I'm not sure what else you wanted me to do for you but my ears are still open, if you need help let me know.
Correct, I did not order. After never receiving a return phone call when leaving multiple messages which you explained away you did respond by email and in the middle of that dialogue you stopped communicating. I can only imagine that if the communication leaves a lot to desire before I pay you money you will virtually disappear after I give you money. Been there, done that. |
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rad
1403 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2008 : 09:25:19 AM
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| ...and your private email to me about not being able to respond b/c you were putting your daughter to bed at 8:00 P.M. -- look at our email dialogue -- it was at 8:00 A.M!! |
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rad
1403 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2008 : 09:33:01 AM
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| You know, Raymond, you should take my posts as constructive because your leads may be the best since sliced bread. But the poor follow through on the phone and via email is what prevented at least one person from using your services. |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2008 : 09:37:25 AM
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No it was PM as i was at home while emailing you Melanie. Go back and look. After you never responded to me that night i emailed you back the next morning before 730 am my time to touch base and see if you needed help. Good lord girl..... What else you want me to do? I refuze to chase down anyone that wants marketing. I gave you a scenerio that saved you a few hundred dollars per month and you are mad about that free advice. wow.
Good luck to you Melanie, truly. |
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raymondb
4195 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2008 : 09:40:13 AM
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"constructive" is saying i have bad customer service, right? OK. if you say so. Im not going to argue with you over this. I have two days worth of emails all the way from late evening to real early morning. If you missed one of my emails or missed me at the office when you called i do apologize once again for that but Melanie you got a lot of my time for free and saying that i have bad customer service just prevented you from ever using my service. Good luck to you!
If anyone wants to see the emails that transpired i have all of them. This claim is flat out rediculous. Over three years on this site and one person comes out with this type of stuff. pretty odd to say the least.
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Originally posted by rad
You know, Raymond, you should take my posts as constructive because your leads may be the best since sliced bread. But the poor follow through on the phone and via email is what prevented at least one person from using your services.
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mtmleader
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