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todoforu

706 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  3:27:12 PM
I need to know if any brokeroutpostians have had success with this company. I submitted 5 files with them over 10 days ago, and I have not receive any response.

The contact name there is Sandi.

If you have any experience with them, Good,Bad, "Unknown", please send me any email.

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liverichly

3674 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  4:41:05 PM
Never heard of them
KHufford

5292 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  4:56:14 PM
Call me.
clebaron

110 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  5:09:48 PM
elkton guy keeps responding to my hard money posts... when i say yeah okay lets look at something they dont respond. they just copy and paste responces. i got the identicle responce on 2 seperate scenarios. emailed them twice as well as forwarded a 1003 and credit report. nothing. thats ****ty biz


quote:
Originally posted by todoforu

I need to know if any brokeroutpostians have had success with this company. I submitted 5 files with them over 10 days ago, and I have not receive any response.

The contact name there is Sandi.

If you have any experience with them, Good,Bad, "Unknown", please send me any email.



clebaron

110 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  5:12:02 PM
THIS GUY


http://www.brokeroutpost.com/loans/brokers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=202710





quote:
Originally posted by clebaron

elkton guy keeps responding to my hard money posts... when i say yeah okay lets look at something they dont respond. they just copy and paste responces. i got the identicle responce on 2 seperate scenarios. emailed them twice as well as forwarded a 1003 and credit report. nothing. thats ****ty biz


quote:
Originally posted by todoforu

I need to know if any brokeroutpostians have had success with this company. I submitted 5 files with them over 10 days ago, and I have not receive any response.

The contact name there is Sandi.

If you have any experience with them, Good,Bad, "Unknown", please send me any email.





dkendall1979

8822 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  5:43:12 PM
I'm always very leery of anyone that does nationwide hard money. Truth be told, it just doesn't exist. Hard money lenders are territorial, no 1 person could possibly have the capacity to do nationwide hard money with anything that would resemble efficiency.

This is years of experience talking.
jbelman

242 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  5:57:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by todoforu

I need to know if any brokeroutpostians have had success with this company. I submitted 5 files with them over 10 days ago, and I have not receive any response.

The contact name there is Sandi.

If you have any experience with them, Good,Bad, "Unknown", please send me any email.





I submitted a loan 10 days ago aswell and always call me every other day with missing stuff such as credit report, or things that should have been taken care of way before and the girl Sandi does callme but it is very slow. the progress... very very slow :(
KHufford

5292 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  6:10:39 PM
Well I guess the OP doesnt care much to respond. I spoke to Tom, the owner today for about 15 mins...I can fill him in, but not posting anything here public.

number22

586 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2008 :  6:15:34 PM
How did you make out with Morgan financial, I'd like to know???
todoforu

706 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2008 :  09:45:35 AM
I spoke with John, he seems pretty cool. Unfortunately, the 2 files that I submitted, they were not doable. Not enough equity. My view? If your borrower has at least 50% equity, then I think they can possibly handle the job. anything over that, it might be a problem. "Just stay on top of it"! Other than that, I think they can be a good source, but I have not closed any files with them...yet!

quote:
Originally posted by number22

How did you make out with Morgan financial, I'd like to know???

jbelman

242 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2008 :  11:40:02 AM
Can u guys give me their number please !
number22

586 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2008 :  12:58:16 PM
todoforyou you hit the nail right on the head the LTV would have to be around 50% for them to even start the deal. I just hate the approval with the jacked up value.

I had 3 deals that just fell through, I wish they would explain things better and in more detail.
todoforu

706 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2008 :  4:03:26 PM
I know Bill, same here...

quote:
Originally posted by number22

todoforyou you hit the nail right on the head the LTV would have to be around 50% for them to even start the deal. I just hate the approval with the jacked up value.

I had 3 deals that just fell through, I wish they would explain things better and in more detail.

Coffee Is 4 Clos

1601 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2008 :  08:51:17 AM
I responded to one of his posts and also asked what BO members have used him before... I looked up the mortgage company and guys name with address and found several companies listed under that address with suite number... a financial planner and real estate company and even notary services. Leads me to believe they are a virtual suite or something.
Coffee Is 4 Clos

1601 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2008 :  09:06:00 AM
I take back what I posted.... http://www.brokeroutpost.com/loans/brokers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=203037
EMScommercial

4749 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2008 :  2:25:43 PM
I am not here to bash anyone else on here.... all i can do is speak in a positive way about what my company can or can not do....

The ONLY way that we make a living is CLOSING loans and not wasting time.....

Typically speaking..... this is how a loan submission goes with Eclipse Mortgage Services.....

Our typical process looks like this:

Day 1. loan submission comes in either via website, email, phone or fax. The submission is logged and assigned to an account manager
Day 2. account manager sends out an introductory email which includes documents we need. If the submission info is complete enough we can write an executive summary. If not, we will ask for clarification
Day 3. assuming we have enough info – we send out an executive summary to all the lending sources in our database that match the loan’s criteria.
Day 4 – 5. account manager accumulates quotes and prepares a quote letter for client. Quote letter, broker contract, good faith and ncnd sent to client as soon as possible!

Now it’s up to the client to pick which quote they like and get us back the above noted docs so that we can get the preferred lending source to write up the LOI for the client.

Once the LOI has been accepted - depending on the property type.... the closing can happen in weeks!!!!

We communicate - ALOT.... you won't go 10 days without hearing from us.... that's for SURE!

Please let us know if we can help you with your commercial scenario(s) - I'm sure that if there is any financing options for your clients out there, we can find it in our vast internal database of commercial lending sources of which we are direct brokers for (currently stands at 300+ entries as of today (lenders, banks, private money, hedge funds, insurance companies, etc.)).

Eclipse Mortgage Services is the proverbial 'head of the snake'... the end of that broker chain.... next step - the lending source.....

** We issue a mutual NCND to protect both sides!! **

Remember... We only get paid when the thing funds!

Thanks!
todoforu

706 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2008 :  5:23:05 PM
So, you are NOT a lender, but a Broker, yes????


quote:
Originally posted by EMScommercial

I am not here to bash anyone else on here.... all i can do is speak in a positive way about what my company can or can not do....

The ONLY way that we make a living is CLOSING loans and not wasting time.....

Typically speaking..... this is how a loan submission goes with Eclipse Mortgage Services.....

Our typical process looks like this:

Day 1. loan submission comes in either via website, email, phone or fax. The submission is logged and assigned to an account manager
Day 2. account manager sends out an introductory email which includes documents we need. If the submission info is complete enough we can write an executive summary. If not, we will ask for clarification
Day 3. assuming we have enough info – we send out an executive summary to all the lending sources in our database that match the loan’s criteria.
Day 4 – 5. account manager accumulates quotes and prepares a quote letter for client. Quote letter, broker contract, good faith and ncnd sent to client as soon as possible!

Now it’s up to the client to pick which quote they like and get us back the above noted docs so that we can get the preferred lending source to write up the LOI for the client.

Once the LOI has been accepted - depending on the property type.... the closing can happen in weeks!!!!

We communicate - ALOT.... you won't go 10 days without hearing from us.... that's for SURE!

Please let us know if we can help you with your commercial scenario(s) - I'm sure that if there is any financing options for your clients out there, we can find it in our vast internal database of commercial lending sources of which we are direct brokers for (currently stands at 300+ entries as of today (lenders, banks, private money, hedge funds, insurance companies, etc.)).

Eclipse Mortgage Services is the proverbial 'head of the snake'... the end of that broker chain.... next step - the lending source.....

** We issue a mutual NCND to protect both sides!! **

Remember... We only get paid when the thing funds!

Thanks!

todoforu

706 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2008 :  5:28:05 PM
I finally received the answer to my question...Not happy with end result. Simply put, lost 2 weeks with promises and great phone conversation...nothing more.

Now I understand why some LO's practice "Dual Submissions". Don't particularly care for this practice, but I see why it must be done...


quote:
Originally posted by todoforu

I need to know if any brokeroutpostians have had success with this company. I submitted 5 files with them over 10 days ago, and I have not receive any response.

The contact name there is Sandi.

If you have any experience with them, Good,Bad, "Unknown", please send me any email.



GWallace

302 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2008 :  6:29:39 PM
Todoforu,

If you start getting that weird feeling like when you were about to be dumped by your girlfriend or that your soon-to-be ex-wife is cheating on you, after you've submitted a loan to a so-called Lender, then you probably don't need them to answer. Follow your instincts.
todoforu

706 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2008 :  6:55:22 PM
Thanks, G. And you're right! I'm pretty "instinctual" individual. I was just hoping that I would be wrong... Really unfortunate though, as Tom seem to be a pretty cool guy.

quote:
Originally posted by GWallace

Todoforu,

If you start getting that weird feeling like when you were about to be dumped by your girlfriend or that your soon-to-be ex-wife is cheating on you, after you've submitted a loan to a so-called Lender, then you probably don't need them to answer. Follow your instincts.


dkendall1979

8822 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2008 :  7:03:13 PM
I still stick by my words.

Anyone that preaches NATIONWIDE hard money, is preaching to a choir of one. I just have never seen this happen. Yes, Winter Group was buying "deep subprime" a while back, but that was not the same thing.

Anyone that says they fund from $1 million to $100 Billion, just means they don't fund anything.

moneyluck

3741 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2008 :  7:41:09 PM
http://www.brokeroutpost.com/loans/brokers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=203037
jbelman

242 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2008 :  7:49:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by moneyluck

http://www.brokeroutpost.com/loans/brokers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=203037


This helps but I still think one e-mail or a phone call will help to have communication and know whats going on. Just like i have to cummunicate with my borrower every day....02
moneyluck

3741 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2008 :  7:53:20 PM
jbel,

i agree. i wasn't defending - i just remembred the thread so I brought it to the surface.

I have never used them, as you can see from my response in that thread ;)
number22

586 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2008 :  06:15:26 AM
todoforyou what you're doing is taking foreclosure deals and sending them to people that in some cases promise the moon the sun and the stars. If they close 3 out of 25 deals that's a great close ratio.

I've done this before, it's a beauty contest, they are going to cherry pick and close the best of the best. They are not going to tell you that.

You didn't know that, but now you do. The majority of the people out here are honest and advertise with caution, then there's the other group that just puts an over the top ad out there just to get apps, and they pick through the best and the rest they will throw away.

Look at who your sending loans to Tom and John@Morgan, and look at their ads and do your (due dilligence)you won't find much on either one. You had turn downs for a reason.

They never stood a chance from the beginning, you did not know that at the time.

Coffee and Kendall are doing their due dillgence before they send something out. If the website looks funky or has limted information you may have problem, when you google the lender and you get limited information you may have a problem.

The hard work is the home work you should be doing on a company.

Don't feel bad, I to have been burned even after doing my due dilligence, but I knew at that point it was a long long shot and sent it in anyway just to give them a chance to see if they could do it. So I was not disappointed when it got turned down.

You sent 5 files to Elkton and then asked if anyone has ever used them. I called them on Friday and they told me they were swamped with over 50 files per AE and had a back log.

The majority of ads and lenders are upfront and truthful a few are not, some by design some because they don't have a clue.

In this climate anyone who can do a foreclosure bailout is hero, and will be swamped.

Due dillgence, due dillgence, due dilligence.
todoforu

706 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  12:54:02 PM
That's pretty much it, in a "nutshell", sweets. Thanks for feedback.

I just wish some AE's that represent their company can be be "straight shooters" instead of "dancing".

Take care yourself.

best

quote:
Originally posted by number22

todoforyou what you're doing is taking foreclosure deals and sending them to people that in some cases promise the moon the sun and the stars. If they close 3 out of 25 deals that's a great close ratio.

I've done this before, it's a beauty contest, they are going to cherry pick and close the best of the best. They are not going to tell you that.

You didn't know that, but now you do. The majority of the people out here are honest and advertise with caution, then there's the other group that just puts an over the top ad out there just to get apps, and they pick through the best and the rest they will throw away.

Look at who your sending loans to Tom and John@Morgan, and look at their ads and do your (due dilligence)you won't find much on either one. You had turn downs for a reason.

They never stood a chance from the beginning, you did not know that at the time.

Coffee and Kendall are doing their due dillgence before they send something out. If the website looks funky or has limted information you may have problem, when you google the lender and you get limited information you may have a problem.

The hard work is the home work you should be doing on a company.

Don't feel bad, I to have been burned even after doing my due dilligence, but I knew at that point it was a long long shot and sent it in anyway just to give them a chance to see if they could do it. So I was not disappointed when it got turned down.

You sent 5 files to Elkton and then asked if anyone has ever used them. I called them on Friday and they told me they were swamped with over 50 files per AE and had a back log.

The majority of ads and lenders are upfront and truthful a few are not, some by design some because they don't have a clue.

In this climate anyone who can do a foreclosure bailout is hero, and will be swamped.

Due dillgence, due dillgence, due dilligence.

EMScommercial

4749 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  2:41:18 PM
So has Tom ever gotten back to you?

We are a direct broker with whomever we send our scenarios to.... Our database is built for our commercial scenarios and has over 315 direct lending sources for nearly all types of properties... even equity based scenarios....

I believe Tom's company, too, is a broker... i.e. he has sources who will fund his loans but i don't believe he directly funds loans.... maybe i misunderstood what he was telling me and if i am wrong... i will be the first to say so.... but that is how i have him marked in my notes....

Anyway... have a nice day....
apostle007

268 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  5:59:18 PM
Allright, i'll take a moment to respond , once again, We are all, working on every file as quickly as we can. We have, over 120 files here at this moment, did i solicit all this "No" i did not, typicially i respond to one post on one loan then the same broker sends me all their deals they can't get done anywhere else. As far as fifi's loans go, they are all bottom of the barrell loans i had them about 15 days
during which ,we have had 2 weekends and 2 holidays all of them are under 110k. i spoke, at length with fifi last saturday for over 30 minutes about these files ,i am doing my best to get them done .

As you are all aware, this market is like nothing we have seen, my investors are cherry picking the hell out of loans and taking forever to get fundings, also they are running out of money, left and right
i work with over 70 brokers, i am on the phone all day long , i work 10 to 12 hours a day 6 to 7 days a week !!! I am not sure how much more we can do, Also when i am getting over 50 calls a day from brokers ,one i cant answer them all and 2 i then can't get on the phone with my investors to sell these loans ! because im talking to brokers all day! is any of this making sense??? i hope so, as to one gentleman above i have one loan of his he is the broker and the borrower well guess what folks he has four forclosures on his credit and is in foreclosure now!!!! We are trying to help (him purchase another house), but for god sakes the way he carry's on, one would think he gave me a gold balls deal at 30 ltv!!!!! Please, if any of you have somewhee else to go don't let me hold you up. In the hard money world we deal with private investors not institutions therefore we are at the mercy of the investors ,christ, one day they will say the want a deal and then 2 days later they won't!!! then i have to start allover again, or they will say they want a deal and then something better comes along in the meantime, and they decide they like it better !!!! Also the usuary laws in every state are changing almost monthly try doing a owner occ hard money in new york !!! you'll see what i mean!! try funding land anywhere right now !!

anyway, enough ranting, we are still doing loans and believe it or not., frankly i don't care anymore we do manage to get deals funding albeit not to the speed of everyones standards that we all used to back in the day. I need to get back to your files now , so this will be my last reply , i, unlike others, apparently can't spend all day on here, so good bye and good luck!!!!
apostle007

268 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  6:09:15 PM
and yes we do fund our own loans as well as send loans to other investors i have a ton of loans that either are not paying or we can"t get refied because they can't qualify we are also sitting on several development deals that we can't move foward on due to current market conditions. just a question how do you people ever get anything closed when you sit on here all day long ???? its 7;05 mst
i have at least 2 more hours of work thank you for your time
p.s. i am not a.e. i own the company 12 years now

tom minovich
elkton mortgage
1115 elkton drive #300
colorado springs, colorado 80907
719-277-6696

tom minovich
dkendall1979

8822 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  6:21:36 PM
Hey Tom, Can I get a loan?
frank drigotas

754 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  6:24:51 PM
I love these folks who think bragging about how many hours they work gets the ratings from others.

I am too tired myself to see/Google about Tom's licensing status. And I did other things besides work today.


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kjake41

184 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  6:51:54 PM
While I feel somewhat sorry for Tom,,,i'm amazed at a lender/broker in todays climate *****ing about the workload. I was among many who believed the hype I read on here about Toms (and others) company recently, only to be disappointed by the total lack of response. Fear not Tom, I will never darken your door again...and i suggest any and all that take umbridge at his snippy posts do the same. When I started looking into these type of loans,,i knew it would be an uphill battle. But I felt sorry for the people that were referred to me that are BEGGING me to help them. Tomorrow i'm calling them all back and give them the bad news that there is no help coming from my corner. Then i'm calling the Law firm who are referring me these leads (by my estimate, 6 were under 60 ltv, and those are just in the past 2 weeks) and tell them that i'm sorry i deceived them. They won't know that i foolishly believed what i read here on brokeroutpost,,,so i'll just take the heat and move on..

take care
apostle007

268 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  7:01:02 PM
i'm not by any means bragging, its 8:oopm mst and im worn out and sick and tired of defending myself so if you dont want to send me deals,then don't . i am trying to get deals closed , and i will not respond to this thread any more , enough is enough !!! i obviously can't make you happy or give any correct answer to make you happy so .................. good night, and god bless

best wishes to you all
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kjake41

184 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  7:12:43 PM
Tom,
the problem isn't that you will or won't answer on HERE,,,the problem is that you don't contact the people that are begging you to respond in some form,,,email, phone,,passenger pigeon,,you are a stone wall,,i talked to your office 3 times today,,,the 3rd time i begged the young lady that answered the phone to put me in touch with ANY warm boby..she apologized but said nobody was home. So don't come on here whining how misunderstood, put-upon, beleagured (looks like i'm on a roll) HERE,,,just have the class to call your client (that would be ME dummy) and say,,,"sorry, i'm really just too busy to take your loans". Now call me naive, but in my 10 yrs this is my
1ST, first, first ever, FIRST EVER time an AE from ANYWHERE said don't call me anymore!
F**kin Amazin!

P.S. IF, and at this point I really mean IF, there is any lender, broker, medicine-man
that can do an EQUITY-BASED 60% LTV RESIDENTIAL loan, in ANY form, please contact me and you will find the most cooperative, expedient, humble L.O. in North America waiting,,,

Thanks in Advance,

Ken
dkendall1979

8822 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  7:17:42 PM
If you were in CA, I'd give you 10 that lend to 60% right now. The problem is you're in Michigan.

I only know one private money guy in Michigan and all his money is in Gasoline right now. he won't touch real estate.

quote:
Originally posted by kjake41

Tom,
the problem isn't that you will or won't answer on HERE,,,the problem is that you don't contact the people that are begging you to respond in some form,,,email, phone,,passenger pigeon,,you are a stone wall,,i talked to your office 3 times today,,,the 3rd time i begged the young lady that answered the phone to put me in touch with ANY warm boby..she apologized but said nobody was home. So don't come on here whining how misunderstood, put-upon, beleagured (looks like i'm on a roll) HERE,,,just have the class to call your client (that would be ME dummy) and say,,,"sorry, i'm really just too busy to take your loans". Now call me naive, but in my 10 yrs this is my
1ST, first, first ever, FIRST EVER time an AE from ANYWHERE said don't call me anymore!
F**kin Amazin!

P.S. IF, and at this point I really mean IF, there is any lender, broker, medicine-man
that can do an EQUITY-BASED 60% LTV RESIDENTIAL loan, in ANY form, please contact me and you will find the most cooperative, expedient, humble L.O. in North America waiting,,,

Thanks in Advance,

Ken

Coffee Is 4 Clos

1601 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  06:13:20 AM
I don't have a problem with Tom. We have never spoken or worked together, although on another thread we had a misunderstanding that cleared respectively. I believe that he's busy although I do understand a little how others may have a "?" about it. I really don't care what others do... hell, we have an LO who has submitted 57 deals since the first of the year (and he will probably reach 60 today) but in this market where I am totaly content with 2-4 deals a month others may not want to hear about those who are so busy they are getting 2 hours of sleep and have to work on Sundays.

So, in respect to all... maybe we should just not care if others are doing terrific and for those who are, maybe just keep it to yourself. It doesn't do any good to talk about it or worry about it- lets just focus on getting our deals in the door and make money.
number22

586 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  07:58:43 AM
This is a beauty contest and there's will only be a few winners. You have a better chance of hitting the lottery then getting one of these approved.

Tom's ad is on other mortgage forums, he on over load which is good for him.

The close ratio on these loans at best must be 3 out of 25, you wonder why Tom has so many loans. It's a win win situation for him.

Investors will run from one deal to the next. One second your deal comes in and it looks pretty then some other deal comes in that's better looking then yours. All of sudden your left holding the bag no response, no approval.

As Kendall and some other have done and are doing it's called due dilligence.

This game is not had to figure out, It's just hard to be a player in the game.

It's a numbers game, in the form of a beauty contest.
EMScommercial

4749 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  09:43:28 AM
Tom.... no one can handle '100 loans' with just three people.... well they can't be handled properly.... if you really have that much business - hire more people to do the mundane things.... or don't take on so many loans.... we have 43 right now... and i have a staff of six.... we can comfortably take on maybe 25 more.... but.... if need be... i'd hire some clerical people to handle the paper pushing so that my staff can focus on the important parts of our loans....

that's my two cents.... it's a shame that your company has caused such a reaction on here.... tom's a very engaging person to speak to on the phone.... i'm sure he'll work through this glitch and come back strong....

have a nice day....
todoforu

706 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  6:17:38 PM
It's time to NIP this thread...

Here is the problem, Tom.

We spoke last Saturday, you informed me that you had 2 investors interested. "It was a Go".

I spoke with you regarding a new file scenario, you informed me that you had an investor who could possibly do that one, but "lets do a Conference Call" on Monday @ 1:00pm. You suggested that I call you Monday Morning and you would initiate the call and we can move forward.

Come Monday, I called, I was told you were on the phone. I called back in 15 mins. I was told you just stepped out of the office. should return within 5 mins.
I called again in 30 mins., I was told again, he just stepped out of the office again.

Are you following me on this one, Tom? I am just simply tired of the "Dancing". If you can't do the files, just say so and we can all move on.

You implied, my files are at considered, "bottom of barrel"... Well, i'm sorry you feel that way. In my eyes, these clients need help...and if I can assist, I do my best, but I do not mislead them...I'm upfront from the beginning and I tell them, this is a "difficult" scenario and I will do my best to accomodate.

Just remember one thing, Tom...

When I posted the scenarios here, YOU FOUND ME...I DID NOT FIND YOU. You were the one that responded and said, "I can do this scenario...send me a 1003, 1008, credit report and executive summary." And...I did. You also said, "we are direct lenders... we have money to lend"

I'm done with this post...I do wish you well, Tom, but in my eyes, the communication and misrepresentation can truly cause some heartaches for many.

Simply put, if you can't do the deal, don't respond. If you can, be prepared for Loan Agents to question "status". We do have that right, you know.

Have a great weekend. To all others, your comments are most appreciative.


quote:
Originally posted by apostle007

Allright, i'll take a moment to respond , once again, We are all, working on every file as quickly as we can. We have, over 120 files here at this moment, did i solicit all this "No" i did not, typicially i respond to one post on one loan then the same broker sends me all their deals they can't get done anywhere else. As far as fifi's loans go, they are all bottom of the barrell loans i had them about 15 days
during which ,we have had 2 weekends and 2 holidays all of them are under 110k. i spoke, at length with fifi last saturday for over 30 minutes about these files ,i am doing my best to get them done .

As you are all aware, this market is like nothing we have seen, my investors are cherry picking the hell out of loans and taking forever to get fundings, also they are running out of money, left and right
i work with over 70 brokers, i am on the phone all day long , i work 10 to 12 hours a day 6 to 7 days a week !!! I am not sure how much more we can do, Also when i am getting over 50 calls a day from brokers ,one i cant answer them all and 2 i then can't get on the phone with my investors to sell these loans ! because im talking to brokers all day! is any of this making sense??? i hope so, as to one gentleman above i have one loan of his he is the broker and the borrower well guess what folks he has four forclosures on his credit and is in foreclosure now!!!! We are trying to help (him purchase another house), but for god sakes the way he carry's on, one would think he gave me a gold balls deal at 30 ltv!!!!! Please, if any of you have somewhee else to go don't let me hold you up. In the hard money world we deal with private investors not institutions therefore we are at the mercy of the investors ,christ, one day they will say the want a deal and then 2 days later they won't!!! then i have to start allover again, or they will say they want a deal and then something better comes along in the meantime, and they decide they like it better !!!! Also the usuary laws in every state are changing almost monthly try doing a owner occ hard money in new york !!! you'll see what i mean!! try funding land anywhere right now !!

anyway, enough ranting, we are still doing loans and believe it or not., frankly i don't care anymore we do manage to get deals funding albeit not to the speed of everyones standards that we all used to back in the day. I need to get back to your files now , so this will be my last reply , i, unlike others, apparently can't spend all day on here, so good bye and good luck!!!!

crowefoote

29 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2008 :  12:51:22 PM
Here is my experience with Elkton,
Tom is a nice enough guy and "talks the talk" but that's about it. In reality they're just brokers like everyone else. Of the 3 deals I sent them, Tom had an investor who was "hot on the deal" or he "really likes your deal, he just needs more information" ZERO closed. More specifically, TWO of them he referred to sources that I already had and had already seen the deal, and he strung us along for a couple of weeks on #3 until finally referring it to ANOTHER BROKER after admitting that his guy wouldn't do it. (BTW, by "admitting" I mean he slipped it in the conversation on a conference call with my borrower and the new broker)

The only reason that I sent them any deals is because they claim to be "direct to the check writer" for hard money. Not once did I see any proof of that.

Like I said, they're all very nice people over there, I just think that they have a habit of "over promising".

I almost forgot...they have an excellent answering service (translation: CALL SCREENING) that insures that they will NEVER pick up your call after they get your deal!!

GOOD LUCK!!




quote:
Originally posted by todoforu

I need to know if any brokeroutpostians have had success with this company. I submitted 5 files with them over 10 days ago, and I have not receive any response.

The contact name there is Sandi.

If you have any experience with them, Good,Bad, "Unknown", please send me any email.



jbelman

242 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2008 :  1:52:06 PM
Well.. I got a hard money loan with them right now and I'm getting nervous from what I am hearing but I quess in order to be in that pool of people who say they are what they say is only to experience it so I quess i'll find out this week or the next week after i send my last conditions to get my loan doc's.
number22

586 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2008 :  1:55:18 PM
It seems we've had this conversation before Elkton & Morgan financial john Pereless.

I don't get the (over promise,under deliver) advertising by some foreclousre bailout people.

I don't think Tom saw this coming, the ads are over the top.

todoforu

706 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2008 :  2:41:43 PM
I thought this thread was "done". I gave up on them a long time ago. Since then, the files that they claimed were "bottom of barrel", i've already closed one and an approval on the other.

Good luck!


quote:
Originally posted by crowefoote

Here is my experience with Elkton,
Tom is a nice enough guy and "talks the talk" but that's about it. In reality they're just brokers like everyone else. Of the 3 deals I sent them, Tom had an investor who was "hot on the deal" or he "really likes your deal, he just needs more information" ZERO closed. More specifically, TWO of them he referred to sources that I already had and had already seen the deal, and he strung us along for a couple of weeks on #3 until finally referring it to ANOTHER BROKER after admitting that his guy wouldn't do it. (BTW, by "admitting" I mean he slipped it in the conversation on a conference call with my borrower and the new broker)

The only reason that I sent them any deals is because they claim to be "direct to the check writer" for hard money. Not once did I see any proof of that.

Like I said, they're all very nice people over there, I just think that they have a habit of "over promising".

I almost forgot...they have an excellent answering service (translation: CALL SCREENING) that insures that they will NEVER pick up your call after they get your deal!!

GOOD LUCK!!




quote:
Originally posted by todoforu

I need to know if any brokeroutpostians have had success with this company. I submitted 5 files with them over 10 days ago, and I have not receive any response.

The contact name there is Sandi.

If you have any experience with them, Good,Bad, "Unknown", please send me any email.





apostle007

268 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2008 :  4:05:27 PM
Dear Readers,

I have a chance to respond, so I will, I am sorry for the trouble

I have caused some of you . I don't know about the rest of you,

but these time's for us, are a mess, to say the least . We have several

non -performing notes ourselves,we just had a 225,000 second ,get wiped
out ,by the first foreclosing. And us, not having enough money to chase the first . because, we are making the payments on several notes, and could not afford to chas. We have had, several loans that investors
of ours had agreed to fund , then at the last minute something goes wrong !!! or, like said above, another deal comes along they like better, and they fund it instead . anyway, we all here apologize for the lack of service lately,
I, did not intentionally seek the volume of loans in front of me now , and yes ,you are correct ,in this market most of them won't go. But
I, like most of you still need to keep trying to earn a LIVING. Regrettably, this is all I know how to do after 18 years . I don't know about the rest of you, but i'm scared With this economy and these markets ( including, the so called stimulous package which is our tax dollars being given back to us , in hopes that we will spend it all to stimulate the economy !!! ) I ,think boys and girls, that
we are in for one hell of a ride !! As to one of the above concerns
(Belman), as of today we have had (i checked) 78 emails back and forth
i , think that that is communication ,yes? (closing is close if investor don't die!) Am i using any other lenders to get deals funded in this market ??? Hell Yes !! My investors,and ourselves can't

get pay-offs, other solid "go to " guys in the past are turning down perfectly good loans ,because people are scared, this is a different

world right now ,people. Every week it seems, state regulations are changing , and everyone is blaming it all on the "us " the brokers !!
We all know, that trying to close a door these day's is next to impossible, let alone a loan!! So in closing ,once again I apoligize for the service as of late, were trying to catch up as quick as we can
as to the suggestion above about hiring more people , I wish to god i could afford it right now , i truly do.....But i can't .In closing I will say that after 18 years of lending i"ve never seen a time like this and i'm afraid, it is going to get worse, before it gets better.

Since the collapse of sub prime the only options available, have
been hard money or fha, or va , being in hard money lending for the past 12 years you can imagine the amount of loans being sent to me on a weekly basis (right place , right time ,not enough people). I am also heavily involved in film financing, and since the writers strike
the backlog on projects is huge and now that the sag (screen actors guild )is going on strike june 1rst all projects must be in production by may 31rst in order to be not subject to the stike !!

So everyone and the mother is scrambling to get projects slated by then! I am not trying to make excuses ,i've dropped the ball on more than one occasion , Who here is the perfect broker/lender???
sorry! My staff and I will strive to serve you as best we can and as quickly as we can , and believe me as soon as get some payoffs i will hire more people (clerical) to help I am pretty good at this game of ours and believe it or not I do close loans , thanks for your time
and thanks so very much for the chance with your deals !!! Best of luck to "ALL" of you in this most trying of times, and god bless us all..

p.s. belman you will close !!!!

warmest regards,


Tom Minovich
Elkton Mortgage


that after 18 years of hard money lending
jbelman

242 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2008 :  4:14:14 PM
Hey Thanks Tom,

EMScommercial

4749 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2008 :  4:44:23 PM
i told you all that tom is a good guy.... and maybe he is just bombarded right now and that he would surely straighten things out.....

see tom... i'm not 'busting your balls' as you like to say i am doing... (others have been doing jumping jacks on them on here... not me.... :-)

taker easy!
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