Whose getting spammed???

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anthonyt2325

1321 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2007 : 1:40:34 PM

I'm getting close to 10 emails a day from commercial lenders and net branches. In addition I'm getting at least 2 cold calls a day from former lo's pitching mlm "opportunities."

Just curious as to how many people on the BO are getting spammed to death?

jmatt

883 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2007 : 2:05:43 PM

Yeah, I get mortgage spam all day long. And I don't know how many times I've told Interbay on the phone that I don't get commercial business, they still call once a month anyway.

lukyk22

1668 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2007 : 2:08:37 PM

i do. i get at least 30 emails a day from people that have ever so kindly added me to their blast list of lenders they send their scenarios to. i wish i could have an automatic response that sends a pie in the face for every one of these I get.

rmedecke

516 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2007 : 2:24:12 PM

I emailed Darin about this. If Internet Brands and/or Outpost is selling us out for a marketing list, I'm done. Just past two days I started receiving junk that claims to be from Outpost. Here's what I got:

Michael A. Gamble
Executive Vice President – National Production
Office- 818.888.4323 x 1170
Fax- 818.827.4797
Mobile- 310.975.4595
gamble@firstbeaconfinancial.com

Visit Us at: www.FirstBeaconFinancial.com

Internal Operations Team !

Janet Smith – Business Development Manager
Office- 818.598.1197
Fax – 818.827.4790
jsmith@firstbeaconfinancial.com

Olga Martin – Transaction Analyst (Underwriting)
omartin@firstbeaconfinancial.com

Gabie Rudas – Transaction Analyst (Underwriting)
grudas@firstbeaconfinancial.com

From: "Murray, Jon" <jon.murray@internetbrands.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 14:30:13 -0800
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>(additional emails deleted to protect privacy)
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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:41 PM
To: > (emails deleted to protect privacy)
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DallasLoanGuy

31 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2007 : 2:26:31 PM

I get mostly lead sellers and credit repair sales calls.

rmedecke

516 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2007 : 3:46:28 PM

Just an FYI, both emails I received had a list of nested email addresses that comprised hundreds of BO folks. Funny thing was, my registered email wasn't the one it was sent to. I'm sure Darin's looking into this. Who is "Jon Murray"?

Darin Ferraro

7807 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2008 : 10:45:54 AM

Looks like a someone spammed Jon at Internet brands and he replied all which ended up going to everyone else on the list the spammer used.

BO is not selling your info :p

mganovsky

1415 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2008 : 10:47:46 AM

I am getting MLM calls and e-mails

IBjon

1 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2008 : 10:52:12 AM

Sorry about that, like Darin said, I replied all to a spammer that had your emails cc'd.

brandie

2976 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2008 : 10:53:47 AM

I was getting spammed via my cell phone for a while until I stopped answering my phone because they would block their number. I placed a message on my cell stating that block numbers will go directly to my voice mail.
Also placed my cell on the DNC list.

Some even stopped calling after I informing them that I don't do any business that blocks their number.

Banker0679

7673 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2008 : 10:54:18 AM

I'm getting phone calls from ppl that leave messages like

Hi...this is John Smith please call me back at 777-123-0000.

I'm thinking....is this a borrower or telemarketer?
Then I call..and the guy starts asking me about my products...like he's interested in refinancing or purchase. Then 5-10minutes into the conversation he tells me about some MultiLevel Marketing that he's been doing and how it's been working.

MOST OF THE PHONE CALLS I GET ARE LIKE THAT!

EMAILS are like this
**********************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: Guitar Man
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:04 PM
Subject: Saw your site. Please call me.

Hello,

Isaw your site last nite. I have a question about your buisness.

Please call me at 916-XXX-XXXX

Thanks,

Stan

********************************************
On Jan 15, 2008 5:17 PM, Robert Enriquez <robert.enriquez@carteretmortgage.com> wrote:

Good Evening,

Is this a solication for a mortgage?

Thank you
Robert

*******************************************

That's the site I saw, yes.

Stan XXXX
916 XXX XXXX

I call him up and he's reading scripts to me like he was doing a Shakespeare play.

taracummins

1669 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2008 : 11:01:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Banker0679

I'm getting phone calls from ppl that leave messages like

Hi...this is John Smith please call me back at 777-123-0000.

I'm thinking....is this a borrower or telemarketer?
Then I call..and the guy starts asking me about my products...like he's interested in refinancing or purchase. Then 5-10minutes into the conversation he tells me about some MultiLevel Marketing that he's been doing and how it's been working.

MOST OF THE PHONE CALLS I GET ARE LIKE THAT!

EMAILS are like this
**********************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: Guitar Man
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:04 PM
Subject: Saw your site. Please call me.

Hello,

Isaw your site last nite. I have a question about your buisness.

Please call me at 916-XXX-XXXX

Thanks,

Stan

********************************************
On Jan 15, 2008 5:17 PM, Robert Enriquez <robert.enriquez@carteretmortgage.com> wrote:

Good Evening,

Is this a solication for a mortgage?

Thank you
Robert

*******************************************

That's the site I saw, yes.

Stan XXXX
916 XXX XXXX

I call him up and he's reading scripts to me like he was doing a Shakespeare play.

That's almost identical to the email exchange I had with Guitarman; in fact the two emails from him are the same word for word. Glad I decided not to call him back. Dork.

mortgagemessiah

7413 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2008 : 11:01:25 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Darin Ferraro

Looks like a someone spammed Jon at Internet brands and he replied all which ended up going to everyone else on the list the spammer used.

BO is not selling your info :p

How was Barbados?

Banker0679

7673 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2008 : 11:05:19 AM

I had another guy call me...and left the same message...

This is James Doe...please call me back at xxx-xxx-xxxx.

So I call back...and I say Hey You just called xxx-xxx-xxxx....how can I help you?
James: Who are you?
Me: You just called me! Literally 2seconds ago....you left a message to call you....WHO ARE YOU???
James: Why do you have an attitude?
Me: I receive 4-6 phone calls per day from telemarketers...and they leave the same type of voicemail you do.
James: Well....I'm looking to do a mortgage but you still shouldnt have given me an attitude.
Me: I'm sorry but I'm aggravated because I received 2-3 calls already.
Me: How can I help you.
James: Well I'm not sure I want to do business with you since you have an attitude problem.
Me: That's fine....I completely understand.
James: You shouldn't yell at anyone on the phone regardless of who's calling.
Me: Sorry, I apologize.
James: Next time if you call or pickup the phone you should just ask the person where they're calling from and why.
Me: Okay.
James: I was looking to see if you offer 'investor products' such as stated, no doc, etc.
Me: We offer a variety of programs.
James: Do you offer FHA?
Me: Yes we do.
James: Well Robert it seems I have to go, but we could've spent more time talking about my needs and not about your issues.
Me: Okay.
James: I'll call you later. Bye.

....

I go on google...put his number there...and lo & behold he works for some ML marketing company for mortgages. I started receiving emails from this guy of how he wanted to work with me.......

SPAM=SCAMMERS

Carlsbadd

728 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2008 : 11:19:48 AM

I have not had these problems, I have had a few brokers call me to ask about my programs, When I explain I am just another LO we end up laughing about it.
Sometimes people don't read posts carefully.
I have had some lead companies call me and that's OK , you never know who might help you in the future. Over all the small amount of spam and calls have not been an issue for me.

ramblinwreck17

41 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2008 : 11:52:46 AM

As soon as I signed up here several days ago I started getting spammed.

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